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Seven teams, unless Providence can pull the upset of Louisville in the quarterfinals. A win over Depaul isn't gonna do anything positive for their RPI.

Unless of course they or somebody else outside the bubble wins the whole thing.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Seven teams, unless Providence can pull the upset of Louisville in the quarterfinals.

Or ND knocks off West Virginia. Yeah, they're a 7 seed in the Big East tourney, but they're also a Top 30 RPI, I believe.

Terry, you might be the only person in America who believes that. "Strangely" enough...you're an ND fan.

What has ND done? That Louisville blowout and a couple of conference tourney wins aren't going to be enough. Their RPI is actually in the 70s (not terrible, all things considered), not the 30s. They're below .500 in conference, and have a less than stellar out of conference resume which consists of a blowout by North Carolina, a loss to Ohio St, and a 1 point squeaker over unranked Texas (although they were ranked at the time). And, other than the previously mentioned Louisville game, have lost to pretty much every respectable team they played in the Big East.

They have no shot, other than winning the whole thing.

Don't mind Terry, MGO. Dude is extremely stupid and quite delusional when it comes to his shit school.



Terry... if you're listening, how is ND different from Georgetown and Marquette with regard to the Big East... besides not having won a basketball title... ever... that is? ND is not a Big East football school and oddly enough plays D1 football. The Big East has won 3 basketball titles since ND joined the Big East. ND has made the NCAA tournament 5 times since joining and hasn't made it past the Sweet Sixteen. Not exactly a stellar resume. The Big East does NOT need ND. If they don't want to join as a football member, then the league should tell them to fuck off. With Tranghese out the door this year, hopefully his replacement (Marinatto?) will have the stones to do just that.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:First, the negotiation between ND and the Big East began before the Big East even began playing football. At that point, ND playing football in the Big East wouldn't have been part of the discussion in any event.

You sure seem to have a revisionist's take on history, don't you?

The Big East began playing football in 91. ND joined the Big East in 95. Regardless of when the "negotiations began", Big East football was in full swing when ND became a member 4 years later. I am sure ND joining the conference as a football team came up at least once during that time.

I really thought we were done here, but I saw you continued to reply and even dropped my Nic in replies to other peeps. Anyways, I look forward to more shit-spewing myopia. Or not.

Depaul with the lead in the second half

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Depaul with the lead in the second half

down 8 now with 3:00 to go, but i was reading the DePaul websites and they are insane. I'll confess, i'm kind of a fan of Jerry Wainwright ( he went to Colorado College where i went for one year) and going 0-16 is not going to keep your job....but, the guy took UNC-Wilmington to the Sweet 16 win over the Trepangnier, Clancy, Scallabrine USC team and a couple W's over Kansas at Ricmond, if i recall, one at Allen FH. guy didn't just become stupid...but the DP sites are saying the "talent is there" because they beat Cincy and Wainright is an idiot. you are 0-16, you are be angry.....but hey.

these days aren't the Ray Meyers days and DePaul's admins were stupid to join the Big East.

A 17-1 Providence run...looks like the 0-18 team finally showed up.

I see some talent on the team, they're just really young. Dar Tucker is good. Depaul nabbed him from Tom Izzo's hands.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Terry... if you're listening, how is ND different from Georgetown and Marquette with regard to the Big East...

If the Big East decides to downsize (an open question, more on that later), ND should rank between Georgetown and Marquette in terms of priority to remain. Georgetown is a charter member of the conference and has a ton of history with the conference. Marquette has only been a member since '05, and ND certainly has a much more substantial fanbase within the heart of the Big East's footprint than does Marquette.

But in any event, although there has been some talk about the Big East downsizing, it's not a guarantee in any event. Certainly there was an incentive for the Big East to remain together in the short term, based on the NCAA rules, but if you're only looking to protect your members post-breakup, there's no reason to delay a split any longer. NCAA rules only require that six teams from a conference play together in a conference for at least five seasons for a new conference to get an automatic NCAA tournament bid. We're in year four now. Given that there will be a delay in any realignment, if that's a priority the conference could start talking about it right now. That hasn't happened, though.

The Big East does NOT need ND. If they don't want to join as a football member, then the league should tell them to fuck off. With Tranghese out the door this year, hopefully his replacement (Marinatto?) will have the stones to do just that.

That's your opinion. All things considered, that you hold it is nothing short of bizarre.

You do realize that ND will be playing 3 games per year against Big East schools, don't you? And do you further understand that those three games will include annual matchups with Pitt and UConn, and a third game against the remaining schools on a rotating basis?

Lessee here. Pitt is a long-term rival of ND (only Navy, USC, Purdue and Michigan State have more matchups against ND all-time), and given ND's commitment to playing at least one roadie per year in the northeast, Pitt is likely to remain on the schedule regardless of what happens between ND and the Big East. The other six schools don't get an annual matchup with ND. Your school gets at least six, with the possibility of more down the road. Light starting to come on yet?

In case you still don't get it, let me break it down for you a little further. That means, at a minimum, three nationally-televised games, and three games that, at a minimum, will receive heavy regional TV coverage. Spin it however you want, but there isn't another school in the country that your school can put on the schedule and be guaranteed that type of TV exposure.

If you cared as much about your school's football team as you apparently do about their girls' basketball team, I doubt that you'd be advocating to drop ND in light of that. Ever hear of cutting off your nose to spite your face? That's precisely what you're doing here. Fortunately for you, I suspect that the folks who run the athletic department at your school are just a tad smarter than you are.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:If you cared as much about your school's football team as you apparently do about their girls' basketball team, I doubt that you'd be advocating to drop ND in light of that.

My thoughts on college football are documented in this thread.

Speaking of which... The Big East. 1991. I see you have nothing further for me regarding ND's entry into the league in 95 and whether or not there existed discussions of them joining as a 'football team.'

Enjoy the NIT, douche.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:If you cared as much about your school's football team as you apparently do about their girls' basketball team, I doubt that you'd be advocating to drop ND in light of that.

My thoughts on college football are documented in this thread.

Yep, you pretty much confirmed that you care more about your school's girls' basketball team than you do about their football team. Props on that particular piece of self ass-kicking -- I guess.

Speaking of which... The Big East. 1991. I see you have nothing further for me regarding ND's entry into the league in 95 and whether or not there existed discussions of them joining as a 'football team.'

I didn't respond to it because you moved the goalposts. I merely pointed out that ND began negotiating with the Big East before the Big East began football.

As to what happened in '95, ND made it clear to the Big East that they were not interested in joining the conference for football. Fwiw, ND floated a similar proposal to the Big Ten at that time as well. The Big Ten did not acquiesce with ND's request, but the Big East did. If you have a problem with that, your beef should be with the Big East, not ND.

But in any event, given your feelings about college football, why would you even care if ND joined the Big East for college football?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Yep, you pretty much confirmed that you care more about your school's girls' basketball team than you do about their football team. Props on that particular piece of self ass-kicking -- I guess.

You have repeatedly mentioned the UConn womens' team in this thread, not me. Your fallacious take reeks of red herring with a side dish of non sequitur. I am kicking my own ass, uhm, how?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I didn't respond to it because you moved the goalposts. I merely pointed out that ND began negotiating with the Big East before the Big East began football.

My original take was that the Big East wanted ND to join the conference as a football playing entity and entered into the agreement in 95 in the hopes that ND would eventually relent on their “no football” stance. That’s what you were responding to, asshat. Go back and read the thread. You pointed out something totally irrelevant, but then again… you’ve made a habit of that in this thread, huh? Who gives a flying fuck what Gavitt and your boy diddling priests were discussing back in the 80s?

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:My original take was that the Big East wanted ND to join the conference as a football playing entity and entered into the agreement in 95 in the hopes that ND would eventually relent on their “no football” stance.

Yet they accepted ND as a non-football member. What's more, there was never any promise made by ND to join the conference as a football member at some later point in the future.

Like I said, if you have a promise with ND not being part of the Big East in football, your beef should be with the Big East, rather than ND.

And btw, since you wanted to dig up old things discussed in this thread . . .

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Notre Dame will be the first school kicked out of the Big East when it decides to downsize to 12.

$100 says you're full of shit. Are we on?

Since you've avoided a response to this for almost a month now, I'm assuming the answer is no.

And btw, since we're on the topic of unaddressed points, there is this . . .

Terry in Crapchester wrote:But in any event, given your feelings about college football, why would you even care if ND joined the Big East for college football?

You claim that you don't care about UConn football, or the ramifications that would ensue to that program, from the standpoint of TV exposure if nothing else, if ND were to cancel its series with UConn. Yet you very obviously care about the fact that ND has not joined the Big East in football. You're talking out of both sides of your ass here.

Sorry, dude, but you can't have it both ways.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Since you've avoided a response to this for almost a month now, I'm assuming the answer is no.

Sure thing, Terrance. I will wager you $100 on the downsizing smack. If you bet me $100 for every sentence in the rest of that paragraph. Deal?

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Notre Dame will be the first school kicked out of the Big East when it decides to downsize to 12. We brought you in for football and you've just been an embarrassment to the league. I think Rutgers brings more to the table than Notre Dame. Fuck you, your fat n|igger wife, and your shit school.

Please add:
For $100: Is your school not an embarrassment? Y N
For $100: Do they bring less to the table than Rutgers? Y N
For $100: Do you have a fat n|gger for a wife? Y N
For $100: Do you fuck your shit school? Y N

What’s the tally?

In fact… why stop there? Why not bet me $100 for all smack aimed at you in this thread? Let’s review:

For $100: Will you enjoy the NIT, douche? Y N
For $100: Does ND have boy-diddling priests? Y N
For $100: Have you repeatedly spewed myopia in this thread? Y N (Be honest now… ND in the Dance?)
For $100: Does your rotund wife make Charlie Weiss look svelte by comparison? Y N
For $100: Is ND less relevant than UConn in football, loser? Y N
For $100: Is ND basketball about as relevant as your registration at this site? Y N
For $100: Is your wife used as projectile in the Fat N|igger Toss at the World’s Strongest Man Competition? Y N
For $100: Are you a n|gger lover? Y N
For $100: Are you widely recognized as the most tedious read on this site? Y N
For $100: Are you a blowhard? Y N
For $100: Are you a dullard? Y N
For $100: Do you fuck altar boys, you sick fuck? Y N
For $100: Is ND hoops less relevant than intramural badminton at UConn? Y N
For $100: Has UConn men’s hoops won 2 Natl titles to your shit school’s ZERO, bitch? Y N

What’s the total, now?


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It's called smack, motherfucker... try it out sometime.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:It's called smack, motherfucker...

Oh, so that's what you call it? Not surprising, then, that it wasn't recognized as such.

Btw, still awaiting your efforts to twist yourself into knots explaining why you don't care about UConn football, but care very deeply about ND joining the Big East for football . . . or not.

Yes, Terrance, that's what I call it. I see you struggle with the whole smack concept... so perhaps you'd feel more comfortable putting it to a vote and be judged by 12 of your so-called peers? You are a lawyer, correct?

I am quite sure you'd be vilified to the fullest extent of board for first degree post-slaughter and be sentenced to a term of 25 years in a smacktimum security facility to be sodomized daily by Catholic priests for your futile efforts in this thread.

Ucunt, where's your take on last night's game, idiot?

Screw,

I went to bed when the Cuse was up 64-57 and about to shoot a FT. It was getting late and I had seen enough. I nearly shit myself upon reading about the game when I woke up.

Bottom line, UConn is 4-3 since Dyson went down... with no quality wins. ND? Seton Hall? S. FLa? BFD. They probably would have lost to Marquette had whatshisname not gotten hurt.

Teams can now pressure Price and double team Thabeet and not pay for it. Look at all the turnovers lately. They're just a "good" team now. Not "great" anymore.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I salivate at the chance of playing UCONN in the tourney...

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:See you at The Dance, sir....

See what I'm sayin'?

Nice bump. You beat me to it.

Looking forward to Thabeet v Suton.

Hopefully, Thabeet is actually on the floor long enough for you to see such a match-up.

Should be interesting......................... Don't expect too much in the way of pre-game smack. I'll be in VT Tu-Fr and then headed to CT Sat-Su. Any and all bets you wish to toss my way are welcome.

Good luck.

I don't think my teams have a good track record when I lay down sig bets. I'll just look forward to a good game, and give you props if you win/call you a shit eating dumbfuck if MSU wins.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Speaking of which, how does it feel to be less relevant than UConn in football, loser?

We'll see about that next year, won't we?

Your program is circling the drain...