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C'mon, Wolfie, back in your day this was considered the cutting edge of warfare ...

mvscal wrote:

As far as the AK being an inaccurate pile of shit

It isn't even subject to debate. You might as well try to argue that water isn't wet.

Oh, so then you would volunteer to stand downrange a couple hundred meters and let people shoot at you with an AK?

Hey, Van, pull up a chair!

Can I be on this show? How many shots do I get to take at mvstarget?

Might not actually hit him, but, I bet you'd have him dancing pretty good. That by itself would be "must see tv".

mvscal wrote:In a historical context it was a piece of shit. Just a cheap knock off of a German design.

Not that I would deign to discuss firearms and so forth (like a perpetual adolescent), but just to clearly demonstrate how babs' takes are bullshit, consider his knee-jerk dissing of the AK-47. He's partially right, it was never considered particularly accurate. But of course he's completely wrong about everything else: here are the facts from a real expert, etc.

The AK is the most prolific small arm of the 2nd half of the XX century. It had been and still is (in more or less modified form) manufactured in dozens of countries, and used in hundreds of countries and conflicts since its introduction. The total number of the AK-type rifles made worldwide during the last 60 years is estimated at 90+ millions. This is a true legendary weapon, known for its extreme ruggedness, simplicity of operation and maintenance, and unsurpassed reliability even in worst conditions possible. It is used not only as a military weapon, but also as a platform for numerous sporting civilian rifles and shotguns (see Saiga semiautomatic shotguns, for example). The AK is an amalgam of previously known features and solutions, combined in the most effective way. The effectiveness, however, depends on the criteria used to measure it, and the key criteria for any and every Soviet and Russian military arm are: Reliability, Simplicity of operation and maintenance, Suitability for mass production. There never was any significant demand for good ergonomics or superb accuracy, though.

And this same selective nonsense is applied by babs to basically every subject upon which he vents his pissy snippets, from Global Warming, to the invasion of Iraq, Middle East history, everything, really.

Holy shit. I think lets turd just got over on mvscal.

I'm sure that'll happen again, about, oh, say, never.

I can't bring myself to actually rack such a worthless piece of shit. Instead, I'll just go ahead and rack Mikhail Kalashnikov instead.

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mvscal wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:There never was any significant demand for good ergonomics or superb accuracy, though.

In other words, a cheap piece of shit. Isn't that what I said?

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mvscal wrote:

Cuda wrote:Oh, so then you would volunteer to stand downrange a couple hundred meters and let people shoot at you with an AK?

Only an idiot volunteers to get shot at. Tell me this, though. If you had to get shot at by someone armed with an assault rifle standing 250 meters away which weapon you prefer the shooter use?

AK-47 or M-16? Take your time.

Hey Rove Limp, which one would you want if you actually had to fight?

If I'm a well trained and equipped US soldier, I'll take the 16, in a heartbeat.

If I'm a primitive sand mvscal, I wouldn't want the 16 because I'd likely get shit inside it while cleaning it because I'd be using the same tool to clean it that I wipe my ass with . So, give me the AK.

Right tool for the right job.

mvscal wrote:
Well, unlike you, I have actually had to fight and I would take the M-16 over the AK any day.

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Considering the eternal Scoreboard in favor of Mvscal, why on earth would any of you idiots think you could compete on this uneven, unfair playing field?

mvscal wrote:
Well, unlike you, I have actually had to fight and I would take the M-16 over the AK any day.

You've only had to fight for a sack of McNuggets. At least you didn't pussy out and call 911, but the only fighting you've ever done is for your place in line at McDonald's.

You only fight women. Apparently, you're scared of males