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BSmack wrote:
Lastly, when I was a kid, I had classmates that rooted for the Raiders, Cowboys, Steelers, Dolphins, Jets, Giants, Browns, Bills and Vikings, just to name a few.

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There was no local team then and there is no local team now.

obviously, to some there was. pre-marketing, like.

Dr_Phibes wrote:

BSmack wrote:
Lastly, when I was a kid, I had classmates that rooted for the Raiders, Cowboys, Steelers, Dolphins, Jets, Giants, Browns, Bills and Vikings, just to name a few.

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There was no local team then and there is no local team now.

obviously, to some there was. pre-marketing, like.

I'm sure there was a Trev or two out there. Remember too that, when I was a kid, the Bills had only been in the NFL proper for a couple of years. Before then they were in some backwater fly by night league that has long since been absorbed by the NFL.

So they weren't a product of marketing back then. Unlike the 49ers and Steelers who were whipping off super bowls on television back in you and Terry's formative years - must have been good to lord over your friends at school.

More respect for Bill's fans - people went and supported the club in really shit weather, no expectations.. they knew they were going to get hammered every week. Just move around, sit wherever you like - get pissed and have fun. How they lack credibility to you is bizarre to me, Cookie Gilchrist would dropkick you off a forklift.

mvscal wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:As I pointed out, the Bills were pretty much a perennial cellar-dweller when I was a kid. It probably would've been impossible for them to come up with a feasible regional marketing plan under those circumstances.

Even when the Juice was knifing his way through opposing defenses with his slashing style of running and going for the jugular on every carry?

Not buying it.

For a couple of OJ's prime years, they were maybe a 8-6, 9-5 type team. Other than that, 2-, 3-, or 4-win seasons were the norm.

Edit: Further on that point http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/ Check out the records during the '70's.

0-20 vs. their arch-rival (Miami) during the 70's pretty much says it all.

Dr_Phibes wrote:More respect for Bill's fans - people went and supported the club in really shit weather, no expectations.. they knew they were going to get hammered every week. Just move around, sit wherever you like - get pissed and have fun. How they lack credibility to you is bizarre to me, Cookie Gilchrist would dropkick you off a forklift.

I'll give props to the old-school Bills fans. But the overwhelming majority of people who call themselves Bills fans today have only been fans since '88 -- if that long.

Dr_Phibes wrote:So they weren't a product of marketing back then. Unlike the 49ers and Steelers who were whipping off super bowls on television back in you and Terry's formative years - must have been good to lord over your friends at school.

More respect for Bill's fans - people went and supported the club in really shit weather, no expectations.. they knew they were going to get hammered every week. Just move around, sit wherever you like - get pissed and have fun. How they lack credibility to you is bizarre to me, Cookie Gilchrist would dropkick you off a forklift.

Cookie Gilchrist is 74. He probably couldn't drop kick his colostomy bag.

Like Terry said, I knew a few Bills fans back in the 70s. Most of them had family connections to Buffalo or were OJ Simpson fans. But the vast majority of people I knew were not Bills fans and have remained so into middle age. There's nothing particularly "wrong" with being a Bills fan, it just never appealed to me, even when they were dominating the AFC and the Steelers were wallowing in mediocrity back in the late 80s/early 90s.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:As I pointed out, the Bills were pretty much a perennial cellar-dweller when I was a kid. It probably would've been impossible for them to come up with a feasible regional marketing plan under those circumstances.

Even when the Juice was knifing his way through opposing defenses with his slashing style of running and going for the jugular on every carry?

Not buying it.

For a couple of OJ's prime years, they were maybe a 8-6, 9-5 type team. Other than that, 2-, 3-, or 4-win seasons were the norm.

Edit: Further on that point http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/ Check out the records during the '70's.

0-20 vs. their arch-rival (Miami) during the 70's pretty much says it all.

~Methinks Terry completely missed the humor in mvscal's post; the humor there being mvscal's sole reason for making that post.~

Van wrote:~Methinks Terry completely missed the humor in mvscal's post; the humor there being mvscal's sole reason for making that post.~

That's what happens when you skim posts. I was responding primarily to the "Not buying it" line.

That being said, my point stands anyway. Anyone who is aware of what the Bills were like in the 70's should be a lot less likely to smack them for losing four straight Super Bowls in the 90's.

You two might remember this, you're from ra-cha-cha. When operation rescue rolled into Buffalo just before a Chief playoff game, Randall Terry went on WGR and grabbed a fetus in a bottle from the trunk of his Dodge and freaked out the host?

JR Gash called the police and when they showed up, everyone thought the cop was Thurman Thomas and went crazy? In the confusion, Randall Terry pulled a runner and disappeared? Seems topical.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: That's what happens when you skim posts.

Actually... you're just a humorless waste of space. You're not funny. You don't "get" funny. Your posts are about as entertaining as a brief on righteous purgation disposal. In fact, I'd rather read some interminable logomachy on how to best dispose of fecal matter than be subjected to your sharts. Ironic that you selected a word associated with sewer trout on the day you registered, eh Crap Jester?

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