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War Wagon wrote:And the Vegas honks were dead wrong setting that line at 18.5... dead fucking wrong, obviously

Can't. Stop. Laughing.


Care to back that up with some sort of stats from a major book as to what percent of the dough went to either side?

Or at least humor us with any sort of chronicaling of line movement during the week?


There's no shame in being ignorant as to how bookmaking works... there is however shame in pretending you know something about it, which you clearly don't.

Papa Willie wrote:

Van wrote:'Spray, the SEC has dominated the BCS because they keep getting chosen to play in the games, then they keep getting Ohio St or Oklahoma.

Think USC wouldn't have also won all those same games the SEC team won? Think USC wouldn't have also beaten Ohio St and Oklahoma twice apiece?

I do, and I suspect you do too.

I dunno. Again - USC has to quit losing games to average teams during the season. That's nobody's fault but their own.

Why is it ok for SEC teams to lose games to average teams during the season and not USC?
If USC wasnt chosen to play in a BCS title game because the 2 teams that did had fewer losses than USC did that would be one thing but the teams chosen to play in the BCS Title games have had the same amount of losses as USC and in every case, their losses were worse than USCs losses were. The circle talk arguement that SEC fans use to applaud their teams and detract from others is why theyre so hated. What applies to teams outside of the SEC has to apply to teams within the SEC and vice versa.

Dinsdale wrote: There's no shame in being ignorant as to how bookmaking works... there is however shame in pretending you know something about it, which you clearly don't.

2-8 in the pick'em last week says what?

Damn, and I thought I sucked at 4-6. You really sucked.

There's no shame in being ignorant as to how making good picks work... however there is shame in pretending you know something about it, which you clearly don't.

Save the IKYABWAI gag reflex you were about to type... pretty sure that's already been covered ad nauseum.

Notice you didn't deign to play in the NFL spread pick'em thus far.

Why, someone with your superior knowledge of clever bookmaking should absolutely pwn that game.

Can someone explain to me why Georgia, Okie Lite, and Michigan are ranked ahead of Houston in the coaches poll?

This makes no sense whatsoever.

Go Coogs' wrote:Can someone explain to me why Georgia, Okie Lite, and Michigan are ranked ahead of Houston in the coaches poll?

This makes no sense whatsoever.

Yeah, I could get into it with ya and I will later ... but, I"ll respond to a previous post


yeah yeah... I'm gonna go Cal mathematics (my specialty) on the board.... fuck you, I'm much smarter than you.




Topic: SEC vs. the real schools....





Most of this info I blatantly took from Phil Steele's blog:

http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/DailyBlog.html





Let's start with baselines, the SEC teams play 4 games each and there are 12 total SEC teams for a total of 48 non-conference games. The Pac 10 has 10 teams and plays 3 non-conference games for a total of 30 non-conference games.

* Out of 48 games the SEC plays 13 BCS teams or 27.1% of non-conference games.
* Out of 30 games the Pac 10 plays 15 BCS teams or 50.0% of non-conference games. If you add in the extra conference game, that's basically 25 out of 40 or 62.5%


So, the Pac 10, with their out of conference schedule and round robin plays 35.4% more BCS teams! Obviously very unscientific but interesting.

* Also out of 48 OOC games, the SEC plays 14 FCS games (note that even with 4 OOC games the SEC in total plays 1 more FCS games than it does against BCS conference games) a total of 29.2% games against FCS teams.
* The Pac 10 out of 30 games plays only 4 FCS games 13.3% if you give us the additional conference game back, it's only 4 FCS games out of 40 or 10.0%



I didn't even cover that most of the SEC games .... OOC games are played at home.



My bad for going "math" on the board.....



My good for pointing out what everyone has known about the "SEC " for years....







m2 is the truth

m2, you know what would really help the Pac 10 with those stats? Why, it'd be just fuggen swell if Cal would stop playing Eastern Washington, La. Tech, Colorado St twice, and Portland St.

Need I remind you which Pac 10 team has never played a D1-AA team, and which team annually plays the toughest OOC schedule, with the most BCS conference opponents?

Psssst...it ain't Cal.

So, here's an idea: Let Cal begin to pull its own weight, then brag about the conference.

Van wrote:m2, you know what would really help the Pac 10 with those stats? Why, it'd be just fuggen swell if Cal would stop playing Eastern Washington, La. Tech, Colorado St twice, and Portland St.

Need I remind you which Pac 10 team has never played a D1-AA team, and which team annually plays the toughest OOC schedule, with the most BCS conference opponents?

Psssst...it ain't Cal.

So, here's an idea: Let Cal begin to pull its own weight, then brag about the conference.

Cal has NEVER scheduled a D1- AA team... outside of UCDavis next year for obvious reasons.

All the teams that Cal booked... backed out and they had to fill the spots at the last minute.. That's what happens when they find out Cal is "kinda" good.

Ohio State... has been trying to 'back out' for the last three years.... and Sandy won't have any part of it.


Game on.










The "old school" coaches..... have Cal as the # 5 team in the country,,,,





http://bustersports.com/blog/national-n ... 1-2-punch/

Papa Willie wrote:

Blueblood wrote:

Go Coogs' wrote:Can someone explain to me why Georgia, Okie Lite, and Michigan are ranked ahead of Houston in the coaches poll?

This makes no sense whatsoever.

Yeah, I could get into it with ya and I will later ... but, I"ll respond to a previous post


yeah yeah... I'm gonna go Cal mathematics (my specialty) on the board.... fuck you, I'm much smarter than you.




Topic: SEC vs. the real schools....





Most of this info I blatantly took from Phil Steele's blog:

http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/DailyBlog.html





Let's start with baselines, the SEC teams play 4 games each and there are 12 total SEC teams for a total of 48 non-conference games. The Pac 10 has 10 teams and plays 3 non-conference games for a total of 30 non-conference games.

* Out of 48 games the SEC plays 13 BCS teams or 27.1% of non-conference games.
* Out of 30 games the Pac 10 plays 15 BCS teams or 50.0% of non-conference games. If you add in the extra conference game, that's basically 25 out of 40 or 62.5%


So, the Pac 10, with their out of conference schedule and round robin plays 35.4% more BCS teams! Obviously very unscientific but interesting.

* Also out of 48 OOC games, the SEC plays 14 FCS games (note that even with 4 OOC games the SEC in total plays 1 more FCS games than it does against BCS conference games) a total of 29.2% games against FCS teams.
* The Pac 10 out of 30 games plays only 4 FCS games 13.3% if you give us the additional conference game back, it's only 4 FCS games out of 40 or 10.0%



I didn't even cover that most of the SEC games .... OOC games are played at home.



My bad for going "math" on the board.....



My good for pointing out what everyone has known about the "SEC " for years....







m2 is the truth

Unhappy that your guys don't get to play the big boys? Hey man - the SEC teams play some creampuffs, but why would they want to start playing Div III teams like yours?

Besides - you're a "surviving on cum and dumplins only" kind of guy. Nobody cares what you think. :D

Pssst....

Tommy Tuberville (Auburn) called Cal the #5 team in the country....



This pic doesn't end well for the SEC.....







The "Pain Train"....
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m2, over the years most coaches were fairly well aware that when they'd signed up to play USC they were signing up to play what would probably end up being a pretty decent team. Somehow, they usually went ahead and played the game anyway.

On those occasions when someone would back out? You know what happened then? USC still didn't call Portland St or Eastern Washington, or any D1-AA teams.

You know why? Pretty simple answer: USC's AD controls who he calls, and that call will never take place.

Cal controls who they call too, so maybe the fuggen pussies could do us all a favor and stop calling D1-AA teams.

Tommy Tuberville? are you kidding? that dudes a loser, we already discussed that. Teams he coached at Auburn won exactly as many road games out of conference as teams you coached did M2, and you want to use what that worthless pile of shit says to validate anything?

"Oregon must be a great team because Tom Holmoe said so"
see, it doesnt quite work does it?

Go Coogs' wrote:Can someone explain to me why Georgia, Okie Lite, and Michigan are ranked ahead of Houston in the coaches poll?

This makes no sense whatsoever.

Starting position.

Can someone explain to me why Georgia, Okie Lite, and Michigan are ranked ahead of Houston in the coaches poll?

College Football is not real football??