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Felix wrote: He's trying to save the economy from falling in on itself.....

By expanding government? Thats a proven remedy


you're a fuckin' jerkoff.

He's trying to save the economy from falling in on itself....now seriously

You say that, and then add "now seriously" to the end?

lol

The fact that a "serious" adult can be duped into thinking that this @sshole is actually trying to SAVE us is high comedy.

His ACTIONS don't tell me that he's trying to save us.

He's dry fucking us, you pinhead.





If we were going to borrow (or/and print) 900 billion dollars to "stimulate" the economy (something they NEVER should have done -- but I'll play along), then the gov. should have taken that money and split it up among all U.S. adult citizens.
Cut us all a check in the neighborhood of $4,000.

Single adult - $4,000
Married couple - $8,000

There ya go -- stimulate the economy with that.

Money goes IMMEDIATELY to work within the U.S. economy.

How much of the "stimulus" has even been spent?

mvscal wrote:
By spending a trillion dollars we don't have? How is that working out by the way?

well, most economic indicators say we're starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel, and if the stock market is any indication, he must be doing something right.....but, bailing out the wall street douchebags was absolutely the wrong thing to do-it was wrong when Bush did it, and it's even worse when Obama threw them a big pile of cash.

By advocating an energy policy that will drastically raise the cost of energy production? What ever happened to all those "shovel ready" green jobs we heard so much about? Double digit unemployment doing it for you?

surely you're not talking about cap and trade and buying into the lies the Republicans have been throwing around are you....first it started out that it was going to cost everyone in America $3,000+ dollars, which was summarily shown to be a lie, now the Reps have reduced it down to $1,700+ per family, which is still a fucking lie....but I'm sure you're advocating that we should cut more taxes, which will stimulate business to expand, and create more jobs right? You're living in a fantasy land if you fucking believe that horseshit

Government cannot spend one red cent to stimulate the economy without first removing that money from the economy or else they can print more dollars which makes every dollar you might have managed to save worth that much less.

money is not "removed" from the economy, it's put someplace else....more than likely in some of the wall street douchebags Cayman Island account where they can avoid paying any taxes on it whatsoever....but you're right, you can't print up more money without devaluing what's already out there....so, other than a tax increase, I can't really see another viable solution....

You don't have a fucking clue.

go fuck yourself

"cap and trade and buying into the lies the Republicans have been throwing around are you."

tsk tsk Felix.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124587942001349765.html

Written by a member and director of the Scientific Alliance.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... c_Alliance

He's a science guy. You should be okay refuting his data with your own data .. that you choose to BELIEVE.

But, the source of the information on cap and trade and the impact it might have on our country comes from observations and data collected using Europe as the experiment. It does not come from Republican invented "lies".

Obama's own words = Lies

therefore Obama = Bunnies = Bizarrofelice

Q, you do know that Rush's show is a gigantic trolljob for Libs, right? :?

mvscal wrote:

Yes, that is exactly right. You cut taxes across the board, you dramatically reduce government spending across the board and you dramatically reduce the regulatory burden on business again across the board. Our economy is burdened with far too much debt. There's only way out of it and that's to tighten Washington's belt and get to work.

untrue, Thatcher tried that and couldn't contain the growth of the money supply, that approach was abandoned.
I wouldn't worry about it, the crash wiped 17 trillion worth of money out of the global ecomony, 4 trillion out the US housing market alone so printing 1 trillion to make up for it, will effect with the money supply? Check your sanity at the door.

mvscal wrote: Oh, yeah? Such as? That light at the end of the tunnel is a oncoming train, dumbfuck.

stock market is starting to rebound....


"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers..."

Yes, that is exactly right. You cut taxes across the board, you dramatically reduce government spending across the board and you dramatically reduce the regulatory burden on business again across the board.

we tried that under Bush and look at where it got us....or are you saying the economy when bush left office was chugging along

Our economy is burdened with far too much debt.

no doubt about that

There's only way out of it and that's to tighten Washington's belt and get to work. If that stupid assclown was genuinely interested in stimulating the economy he would sit down, shut up and get the fuck out of the way.

so what you're proposing is that he just step out of the way and let the banks and insurance companies run along they way they have been and that's going to bring the economy back? seriously, is the shit you're trying to peddle here.....we tried it and it didn't work...or haven't you been paying attention for the last 8 years.

like I said, if you mean wall street types moving it out of the country, then you're absolutely right...but I'm almost positive that if we told then they have free reign to regulate themselves, they'd never take advantage of the American taxpayer.....again, what dream fucking world do you live in...do you honestly think AIG gives a fat rats ass about you....do you think United Health care gives a flying fuck about you? Dude, you're seriously fucking deluded....

Felix wrote:

mvscal wrote:Yes, that is exactly right. You cut taxes across the board, you dramatically reduce government spending across the board and you dramatically reduce the regulatory burden on business again across the board.

we tried that under Bush and look at where it got us....or are you saying the economy when bush left office was chugging along

We DIDN'T try that under Bush.

Bush did NOT cut government spending.

He spent like a raving lunatic.
He was a big government douchebag.

Why do you think his approval ratings were so low?

Because just liberals hated him? LOL

Wake the fuck up, clown.

Fiscal CONSERVATIVES could not stand him.

He had hate coming at him from both ends.

If Bush's spending was that of a raving lunatic, guess what that makes the spending of your guy?


Don't crow about the markets Felix.

Do you know about recoil?

The markets recoiled UP because they had just dropped like a fuckin' rock.

They're going back down, and soon.


Take it to the bank.


... or not.

Fiscal CONSERVATIVES could not stand him.

I sure wish they'd see fit to advance a candidate of their own. It hardly mattered if they hated Bush as long as they dutifully lined up behind him...pussies.

The mid-term elections will see a BOATLOAD of repugnicant candidates pimping themselves as fiscal conservatives.

And many democRATS will try to paint themselves that way, also.

Felix wrote:

Yes, that is exactly right. You cut taxes across the board, you dramatically reduce government spending across the board and you dramatically reduce the regulatory burden on business again across the board.

we tried that under Bush and look at where it got us....or are you saying the economy when bush left office was chugging along

Actually the economy was doing great and the deficit was falling right up until 2007. Guess what happened then.

so what you're proposing is that he just step out of the way and let the banks and insurance companies run along they way they have been and that's going to bring the economy back? seriously, is the shit you're trying to peddle here.....we tried it and it didn't work...or haven't you been paying attention for the last 8 years.

When did we try that? Whan B.O. was helping ACORN bully banks into making bad loans? When Barney Frank was giving Freddie/Fannie carte blanche to do whatever they want?

In 1987, the market and economy went into a severe brutal nosedive. Remember that recession? Oh, wait, there wasn't one. Because our POTUS at the time did the right thing-nothing. And we recovered in weeks instead of months (years?).