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Actually, no. Some people aren't completely sold on the Bearcats and that's fine. I think you're the only person who completely and totally shits on them and disrespects them and you haven't ever given one REAL reason why. All you say is the Big East sucks and everyone on our schedule sucks. Bullshit. That's the kind of shit a 7th grader would say so you have no credibility. The FACT is our offensive stats ARE better than those of Texas. Look it up. So what is wrong with me thinking that Cincinnati's offense is better than Texas' offense? Tell me why that's so hilarious.

King Crimson wrote:

Vito Corleone wrote:then that little girl better be hoping that you don't meet Texas or TCU because both are better than Alabama. No you can't tell when comparing teams we faced. But I guarantee you of the undefeated teams no one has a better offense right now than Texas does and Texas is ranked in the top 10 in just about every single defensive category.

Our offense may not be as good as the 2005 offense was with Vince, but our defense is better.

my opinion is that Texas' front 7 are mos def for real. I find the O a little too dink/dunk with all the underneath stuff. if this team had a Limas Sweed to stretch the field, they'd be my pick to win it all. as it stands, i dunno. they aren't going to lose to anyone in the Big XII since the conference sucks this year.

I agree on both counts with you but the way I look at it, neither Alabama nor Florida can throw the ball worth a damn. That pretty much makes both teams one dimensional, and when was the last time a one dimensional team beat a defense as good as the Texas defense. BTW Malcom Williams and Marcus Goodwin are pretty good at stretching the field and now that they moved Shipley back into the slot he is getting open a lot more in space.

Jsc810 wrote:

CintiBearcat92 wrote:I think you're the only person who completely and totally shits on them and disrespects them

Some people might also put Judge Bernie Bouchard in that group as well.

Will the Cincinnati QB spend the bowl season in jail?

This is from back in May when he apparently tried to use a fake ID to get into a bar. He was cited for it and now has to complete a program. The only way he faces jail time is if he fails to complete the program. He definitely made a couple bad decisions and I hope he completes the program and doesn't go down the same road again.

Vito Corleone wrote:

King Crimson wrote:

Vito Corleone wrote:then that little girl better be hoping that you don't meet Texas or TCU because both are better than Alabama. No you can't tell when comparing teams we faced. But I guarantee you of the undefeated teams no one has a better offense right now than Texas does and Texas is ranked in the top 10 in just about every single defensive category.

Our offense may not be as good as the 2005 offense was with Vince, but our defense is better.

my opinion is that Texas' front 7 are mos def for real. I find the O a little too dink/dunk with all the underneath stuff. if this team had a Limas Sweed to stretch the field, they'd be my pick to win it all. as it stands, i dunno. they aren't going to lose to anyone in the Big XII since the conference sucks this year.

I agree on both counts with you but the way I look at it, neither Alabama nor Florida can throw the ball worth a damn. That pretty much makes both teams one dimensional, and when was the last time a one dimensional team beat a defense as good as the Texas defense. BTW Malcom Williams and Marcus Goodwin are pretty good at stretching the field and now that they moved Shipley back into the slot he is getting open a lot more in space.

problem i have with this theory is that one of UT's strengths is McCoy. throwing the ball, but more importantly making the right decision about 95% of the time and/or tuck and run instead of trying to force it. the way OU was able to take Shipley out of the game would worry me....because either UF or Bama will have the same type of db athlete that OU has to wipe Shipley and the big play off the board. i'm not sure one-dimensional vs. one-dimensional necessarily equals a UT advantage.

how UT can't seem to get a premier running back recruit is interesting to me. they miss on peterson, jermie calhoun and christine michael (who amazes me picking A&M after the Ags wasted Goodson (and Martellus Bennett) as supreme talent).

King Crimson wrote:
problem i have with this theory is that one of UT's strengths is McCoy. throwing the ball, but more importantly making the right decision about 95% of the time and/or tuck and run instead of trying to force it. the way OU was able to take Shipley out of the game would worry me....because either UF or Bama will have the same type of db athlete that OU has to wipe Shipley and the big play off the board. i'm not sure one-dimensional vs. one-dimensional necessarily equals a UT advantage.

how UT can't seem to get a premier running back recruit is interesting to me. they miss on peterson, jermie calhoun and christine michael (who amazes me picking A&M after the Ags wasted Goodson (and Martellus Bennett) as supreme talent).

Keep in mind that our front 7 might be the best of any of the undefeated teams. We are in the top 10 in just about ever defensive category. Also Oklahoma taking away shipley had more to do with Venerables choosing to make the other receivers beat them and forcing Colt to throw to them. And in the 2nd half we did move the ball pretty well on the Oklahoma defense.

As for our runningbacks. Remember Mack chose not to recruit Michael and Calhoun. Texas has ended their recruitment of Lache Seastrunk this year as well. I like the runningbacks we have right now, and we probably would have a much better running game if we weren't using our 5th string TE. Our running game generally gets better as the game goes on we use between 4 and 5 backs a game and this is the biggest reason (IMO) we can't get more consistent.

Neither the Alabama or Florida defense is as good as the Oklahoma defense so scoring enough points to win is not a concern. As long as Colt is in the game either team would be forced to outscore Texas to get the win, because neither is going to completely stop the Texas offense.

Yes Alabama and Florida are very capable of running the football and stopping that will pose a threat to Texas, but with ZERO passing game we will play with 10 in the box and there is no way they are going to run on us. Earl Thomas and Aaron Williams are playing lights out. Thomas is having a much better year than either Barry or Mayes.

when it comes down to it, I could see Texas forcing both Alabama and Florida to toss a goose-egg.

Vito Corleone wrote:No, Missouri ran on the 2nd and 3rd team defense not the Texas first team defense.

No, they ran on Texas against the first team, in the first half.

Only an SEC Yokle could take what I posted and think I said Texas by 30 or 40?

Confirm or deny Can either Alabama or Florida pass the ball worth a shit?
If you deny your dumb as dog shit, or blind. If you confirm then you have to admit they are pretty damn one dimensional on offense.

Now as BtH has pointed out all three teams have pretty similar ranked defenses, all three are pretty damn good.

Now who would you rather have as QB in a championship game. Heisman finalist Colt McCoy or Greg McElroy? I would go so far as to say McElroy is a liability for Alabama and if you do win it all, it will be in spite of him not because of him.

I personally am still of the opinion that great players make great plays in big games. Outside of a great running back and receiver who else is great on the Alabama offense? Texas has a great QB that can make plays with both his arm and legs. Our oline has jelled nicely since the Oklahoma game and we are getting the pass protection to allow Colt the time he needs. We have 5 very capable runningbacks with varying abilities and we have yet to play a game where one did not step up to make plays.

When it comes right down to it, I would rather go into the BCS title game with an offense that can move the ball through the air than one that must solely rely on running it against a great defense.

Oh ok, now you can pass but choose not to ok I get it.

Well I guess Texas can run the ball we just choose not to. See how that works. Kinda surprising how Florida didn't need to pass against Arkansas, well I guess you don't when the refs are there to bail you out.

The more I watch your team the more I realize Texas is about to get them another crystal football.

We Ain't Utah, Texas is a hell of a lot better.

Papa Willie wrote:

Vito Corleone wrote:Oh ok, now you can pass but choose not to ok I get it.

Well I guess Texas can run the ball we just choose not to. See how that works. Kinda surprising how Florida didn't need to pass against Arkansas, well I guess you don't when the refs are there to bail you out.

The more I watch your team the more I realize Texas is about to get them another crystal football.

We Ain't Utah, Texas is a hell of a lot better.

KU = N. Dakota State.

KU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.UT Chat + FIU

You do realize that outside of Colorado and possibly Iowa State, there isn't a single Big 12 school that McElroy would start for. The kid is just not that good. The fact that he has a talent like Julio Jones and still sucks tells me all I need to know about him as a QB. The Texas DBs are going to have a field day on his ass, your oline and dline are solid but not as good as some we have already faced this year. The Oklahoma dline is much better than the you guys have. The Okie Lite Oline is also better than yours so all in all we have faced better competition and when we face Nebraska we will probably face the most dominate defensive player in the country in Suh.

I'm very confident in our passing game to move the ball even if we can't get the ball to Shipley. Malcom Williams, James Kirkendoll, John chiles, Dan Buckner and the new kid Marcus Goodwin are all having great years and have stepped up at various points in the game. We don't rely on our running-game like you guys do so outside of killing time at the end of games, we use our runningbacks as a change up for our passing game to help keep the defense honest.

You may say you want to play Texas but the simple fact is Texas is the most complete team you will face this year.

Papa Willie wrote:

Vito Corleone wrote:You do realize that outside of Colorado and possibly Iowa State, there isn't a single Big 12 school that McElroy would start for. The kid is just not that good. The fact that he has a talent like Julio Jones and still sucks tells me all I need to know about him as a QB. The Texas DBs are going to have a field day on his ass, your oline and dline are solid but not as good as some we have already faced this year. The Oklahoma dline is much better than the you guys have. The Okie Lite Oline is also better than yours so all in all we have faced better competition and when we face Nebraska we will probably face the most dominate defensive player in the country in Suh.

I'm very confident in our passing game to move the ball even if we can't get the ball to Shipley. Malcom Williams, James Kirkendoll, John chiles, Dan Buckner and the new kid Marcus Goodwin are all having great years and have stepped up at various points in the game. We don't rely on our running-game like you guys do so outside of killing time at the end of games, we use our runningbacks as a change up for our passing game to help keep the defense honest.

You may say you want to play Texas but the simple fact is Texas is the most complete team you will face this year.

You DO realize that McCoy lives off the short pass and the receiver running for the rest, don't you? You do realize that most of the defenses you play, play off those receivers by a large margin allowing that to work, don't you?

What you DON'T realize, is that UF and 'Bama have more secondary and linebacker speed than ANYBODY McCoy has played. They'll be knocking the snot out of your little finesse receivers at the line and won't be intimidated at all.

These are things people like you never seem to figure out, though, so enjoy your little world. :D

completely untrue. Oklahoma has just as much team speed on defense as either Alabama or Florida. Say what you want about Oklahoma but when we played them we got their best shot and we scored on them and especially in the 2nd half we moved the ball pretty well both on the ground and in the air.

Texas lives off the short passes because most everyone gives us the short passes, but when the secondaries begin to creep up we will go deep on them like we have been doing as of late.

So far this year Oklahoma has given us the best look on defense with Oklahoma State giving us the best look on offense. Oklahoma state has a better QB and offensive line than either Alabama or Florida (excluding Tebow's ability to run)

But yes when it comes to the whole package either Alabama or Florida will be giving us the most complete opponent we will have faced all year.

If you think our receivers are finesse you haven't watched Malcom Williams, Greg Buckner or John Chiles play. They all excel in getting off the line in bump and run especially williams and Buckner who are both over 210 lbs. Shipley has been taking shots all year especially as of late where he has had multiple dirty shots from both Kansas and Baylor. He keeps coming back and making big plays for us.

What neither Florida or Alabama has seen is a passing game like Texas has, and a secondary as good as the one Texas has, we are as deep in our secondary this year as we were back in 2005 where we had 5 guys that ended up drafted into the NFL. Aaron Williams might be the best Corner to ever play at Texas and that includes, Michael Huff, Aaron Ross and Quintin Jammer. NFL scouts are already saying that Earl Thomas would be the 3rd defensive back taken if he were to come out behind Mayes and Barry and he has had a much better season than both. Toss in there Curtis Brown, Chykie Brown and Ben Wells and you have the most complete secondary in college football.

Papa Willie wrote:Long or short passes? You confused yourself with yourself. :D

His point was pretty easy to understand. You just have to read. He said Texas takes what the defense gives them, which is typically short passes. But when the defense mans the short passes, Texas is capable of going deep. Not really that complicated.

Sudden Sam wrote:

Vito Corleone wrote:You do realize that outside of Colorado and possibly Iowa State, there isn't a single Big 12 school that McElroy would start for. The kid is just not that good. The fact that he has a talent like Julio Jones and still sucks tells me all I need to know about him as a QB. The Texas DBs are going to have a field day on his ass, your oline and dline are solid but not as good as some we have already faced this year. The Oklahoma dline is much better than the you guys have. The Okie Lite Oline is also better than yours so all in all we have faced better competition and when we face Nebraska we will probably face the most dominate defensive player in the country in Suh.

You may say you want to play Texas but the simple fact is Texas is the most complete team you will face this year.

This is really rather humorous. You have no idea how bad I want the Tide to get to that damn game and meet Texas. I'll be pissed if we get there and you ain't the opponent.

You have no clue what y'all are in for.

McElroy sucks? Oklahoma State's offensive line is better than Alabama's? OU's Dline is better than Alabama's? Oh, man. Please let this matchup happen! I seriously doubt Texas' coaches feel the same as you do!

If they meet and UT wins, I will tip my hat and say you beat a good team with a better team. But I don't think that's gonna be the case. When I look at the matchups, I can't see UT being able to do much against the Tide defense. And our offense will move on your D. By at least 10 points, Bama wins.

Like I've said, though...still a ways to go for both of 'em to get there. I think we may be talking outta our asses a lot!

Ok lets break this down.

OU dline vs the Bama dline. OU has 3 dlinemen that will be playing on Sundays, Gerald McCoy will likely be the 2nd DT taken in the draft behind Suh. Both DEs for Oklahoma are pretty damn good, Austin English and Jeremy Beal are both pretty bad ass players. Now who does Bama have that compares to McCoy and don't say that fat ass Terrance Cody, he couldn't hold McCoy's jock. Your DE Marcell Dareus (I think that's the guy) is pretty damn good but he ain't better than English. Probably put him on the same level as Beals. I'm not sure why you even thought the Bama dline is on the same level as the Oklahoma dline.

The Okie Lite Offensive line has one of the premier OT in the game in Russell Okung who will probably be a 1st round pick. As a unit the Okie state oline has given up 7 sacks all year. Not too bad, I wish the Texas oline was as steady. Your boys have given up 11 sacks this year. pretty impressvie but still not as good as OSU. Both are pretty effective run blockers OKie lite averages 203 yards rushing while Bama averages 225.6 per game.

All in all I stand by my statement that our oline and dline has faced superior competition than alabama brings to the table.

Our dline dominated every opponent we have played this year I see no reason why it won't happen to a one dimensional offense like bama has. You might score 10pts but Texas will probably score in the 20's.

Alabama would not even be good if they didn't freaking cheatr all the time. Real questionable activities by boosters as long as I can remember. Between that, Urban Meyer's illegal recruiting and the SEC officials being on the take, the entire conference is a disgrace. On even playing fields with no tampering, cheating, or player paymenys, I think even Texas Tech could win that shithole conference. :brad: :brad: :brad:

You know - let's not forget that we're talking about kids that are teenagers-early, EARLY 20's here. They're all an emotional bunch. 'Bama had everybody telling them that they'd win it all last year. When they kicked the shit out of Auburn (and believe me - THAT was their ultimate goal last year), they believed they were the best. When Florida beat them, they lost all desire. Utah knew that the Sugar Bowl was their Super Bowl. Had Florida or anybody else just gone through what 'Bama had done, Utah would have probably beaten them as well. 'Bama went into the Sugar Bowl not really giving a fuck, thinking they should have been playing for all the marbles, and they also didn't take Utah seriously.

If their ultimate goal was to beat Auburn, as you say, then they should've been happy as a clam to have done just that, and to have received an invite to play in the Sugar Bowl. It's a BCS bowl. I have a hard time believing they weren't able to get up for it, especially since they had almost an entire month to rub some dirt on their pussies and get over the Cash Grab loss. It's not like they had to play just one week later. They lost the Cash Grab game on 12/6, they played in the Sugar Bowl on 1/2. Give me a break, guy.

Dominant, MNC-caliber USC teams suffer crushing defeats all the time, get relegated to consolation bowls, and still kick some ass. Why? Because by the time that ball is kicked off, they're not crying in their pretzels anymore. They're just in the moment, ready to play some football. Which begs the question: To what degree do let downs actually affect a team's performance, especially performances that take place almost an entire month later? Nobody knows. It's unsubstantiated horseshit to say that's why Bama lost the game. You can speculate all you want, but at the end of the day it's still just a bunch of clueless horseshit.

And even if it's true, even if Bama was still sulking under their helmets by gametime, all that tells me is Bama is a pussy program. And I don't believe they are, which is why your take is useless. Slick Nick may be a slimy douche, but one thing he IS good at is motivating. They were ready, they just got trounced. Plain and simple.

Papa Willie wrote:Did you really expect Utah to beat the shit out of 'Bama?

No, I expected a close game either way.

A let down, if anything, should've resulted in a "scabdick" win for Bama, or a close loss. But getting utterly destroyed? That wasn't the result of a let down, that was the result of Utah being a better football team. Utah was loaded last year, and Bama's offense was less stellar than it is now. Bama didn't have the horses to hang with Utah, and the Utes would've beaten many a good team last year.