Uh oh, SS.....

[M Club]

With the system in place right NOW, they are already doing that.
A football player at a big-time D-1 school is required to put in a helluva lot of hours.
He's already "studying" a football curriculum.

wtf is this? you advocate for a football curriculum even though one already exists? how fucking brilliant are you? why don't you actually expound on what a football major would entail: counting hashmarks? choreographing cheerleading routines? designing concourses for the stadium?

football players have to put time in because it's their job, for all intents and purposes. i've already pointed out and you've conveniently glossed over the fact the time commitments are hardly different for a student who has to work his way through college. football players probably even save time by getting their workouts out of the way while they're "working."

it's a stupid idea but one you're willing to hang your hat on, like a fucking retard.

Good thing you chose english - ?maybe?, 'cuz apparently math ain't your thang.

If the average of one total group is 20+% lower than the average of another total group (which football player's SAT scores are, in comparison to the overall student population), then we KNOW that the 20+% lower group has a significant number of *LOW SCORES* which bring the overall average down to such an extent.

yeah, you dumb fucking retard, because there's no such thing as an outlier or other abnormalities to skew averages. ignoring the fact there is no such thing as an 'average' student, your article/ace in the hole would have you believe any normal student picked at random would be 300 points smarter on the sat than a football player picked at random even though that student belongs to a group whose average is impressive only because of the fleet of asians he never speaks to who scored 1590s. here's how math works, vagina:

a closer gives up 2 runs over 12 innings while converting his first 10 saves. his era is 1.50. his next game he gives up a walk-off grand slam. his era is now 4.38. average tells the full story here, right?

Look at a knuckhead walking around big-time D-1 campus - it's a pretty good bet he's a football or basketball playah.

because state schools are known for their stringent standards. the only connection to football the meat heads i dealt with in college had was their bs about being all-league in hs or some shit.

your idea becomes more retarded the more you actually try to defend it.

[Dinsdale]

tebow is showing up at NBA finals games in 15,000 dollar seats and Florida gets off scott free?

You mean after he graduated, and signed a contract with an NFL team that probably provides a pretty tasty weekly paycheck?

[SoCalTrjn]

The NCAA came down on USC because of a percieved recruiting advantage the Trojans had. Thats why they asked them to close the practices and ask the celebrities to stay out of the endzone at home games The NCAA went so far as to mention this percieved recruiting advantage 38 times in the Comittees report on USCs sanctions.
If they NCAA is going to allow a stipend to be given to every college football player in the nation it should be based on the cost of living for students at that college. Just to keep things fair and level. Same with this issue with all these players recieving all this stuff from agents. Reggie had a 10 year old car with a 4,000 dollar blue book and USC dropped the ball but Floridas center is driving around in a brand new 68,000 dollar Escalade and tebow is showing up at NBA finals games in 15,000 dollar seats and Florida gets off scott free? Alabama was already on probation and has been for the last 17 years and they have 2 guys on paid fishing charters with agents, another guy getting computers from agents and who knows how many guys going to parties on agents dimes and Saban says its an NCAA issue and not an Alabama issue. They had 5 players involved where USC had 1 and USC has a lack of institutional control? Saban has his own agent meeting with Bama players, look how many of his players have signed with his agent. ESPN is treating this issue completely different than they treated USC when its the same issue, the difference is the SEC is ESPNs cash cow and not the Pac or USC, they have a vested interest in keeping SEC schools off sanctions because it would hurt the multi billion dollar deal they have with the conference. If USC is guilty of not being able to keep 1 player away from agents then all these other schools, many with mulitiple players are too.

Dumbass - USC got caught. Other schools have gotten caught. It's called "life". Quit crying like a god damned motherfucking pussy and deal with it.

When the other schools that got caught with their players doing the same thing, Bama, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia.... get the same punishment that USC was given, then we can move on.

[SoCalTrjn]

tebow is showing up at NBA finals games in 15,000 dollar seats and Florida gets off scott free?

You mean after he graduated, and signed a contract with an NFL team that probably provides a pretty tasty weekly paycheck?

No it was in Orlando before his senior season. he said his mom, who doesnt have a job, paid for his ticket.

He is in Denver now, practicing without a contract, no contract= no paycheck?

[R-Jack]

He is in Denver now, practicing without a contract, no contract= no paycheck?

Practice starts two days from now you stupid fuck.

[poptart]

M Club, what I have given is a ... proposal

It is not a perfect solution.
I'm not sure there is a perfect solution to rectifying the charade that D-1 football is.

why don't you actually expound on what a football major would entail

The better question would be, "Why should Vince Young come out of college with a degree in ... whatever, when we know he could not possibly have been a legit student?"

Why should a whole lot of dogshit pretend students be given degrees?

If we take it out into the open and give them a football degree, it is rightful, and we're not continuing to engage in a silly dog and pony show.

If I was going to design a football major, I would keep the same basic football requirements which they already have and add to that just a handful of BASIC courses in coaching, business, and BASIC "general studies" type classes.

It might be a "General Studies Light" type of degree - with a strong football emphasis, obviously.

here's how math works, vagina:

a closer gives up 2 runs over 12 innings while converting his first 10 saves. his era is 1.50. his next game he gives up a walk-off grand slam. his era is now 4.38. average tells the full story here, right?

BWAAAAA ....

Tears, seriously, TEARS!!!

Please tell me, Sweet 'Tard O' Mine, that you didn't just equate a finding with a sample of THIRTEEN with the finding of a sample of ... many thousand.

You're a very funnay guy, M Club.

[SoCalTrjn]

He is in Denver now, practicing without a contract, no contract= no paycheck?

Practice starts two days from now you stupid fuck.

Fall camp starts in a few days, he has been in Denver practicing with the team, in the spring and without contract. And it still doesnt change the fact that he was in 15,000 dollar NBA finals courtside seats in Orlando before his senior year, seats he said his no income earning mother paid for.
Had Orlando comped him the seats, he can not accept them, had the seats been paid for by the school or any of its boosters, he can not accept them, his father has claimed an income of under 60k a year while Tim was at Florida yet the family still traveled to road games and somehow spent 50% of their gross annual income on 2 courtside NBA finals seats? Tebow was dirty, far dirtier than the Griffens, difference is Tims dad hid the money in a federally protected myth dealership account where Gator fans paid the tebows millions of dollars while Tim was at Florida.

[Carson]

Wow, Floridafan had to pay one of their Jacksonville alums MILLIONS of dollars to get his kid to stay in-state and play for a team that is on TV all the time and had Percy Harvin receiving.

USC can only afford to pay Samoans with tins of sardines.

[M Club]

The better question would be, "Why should Vince Young come out of college with a degree in ... whatever, when we know he could not possibly have been a legit student?"

Why should a whole lot of dogshit pretend students be given degrees?

If we take it out into the open and give them a football degree, it is rightful, and we're not continuing to engage in a silly dog and pony show.

If I was going to design a football major, I would keep the same basic football requirements which they already have and add to that just a handful of BASIC courses in coaching, business, and BASIC "general studies" type classes.

It might be a "General Studies Light" type of degree - with a strong football emphasis, obviously.

could not have been a legit student? again, you're speculating. you have no idea what his course work looked like and have resorted to assumptions. and allowing that he's a certified retard, you continue to use him to demonstrate what college is like for all football players at all universities.

and obviously you continue to gloss over the experiences of normal students who shouldn't be in university either but who somehow manage degrees with their c averages, if that. why should football players be any different?

what does a college degree get you anyhow? great, you can make coffee every morning for the senior staff and their mba's.

a general studies degree is easy enough. if you're so concerned about their status as students then perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to play as freshman anymore. fine by me.

Tears, seriously, TEARS!!!

Please tell me, Sweet 'Tard O' Mine, that you didn't just equate a finding with a sample of THIRTEEN with the finding of a sample of ... many thousand.

You're a very funnay guy, M Club.

please tell me again, joe ANSWER THE QUESTION, when's the last time any policy proposal whose argument was predicated solely on averages was taken seriously? i'll go with never. of those thousands of sample subjects, how many of them are football players with higher sat scores than the student body average? huh? huh?

have you ever won an argument in your life?

[Killian]

The next time Socal includes a link to any of his bullshit about Tebow will be the first.

And as soon as another school is caught with an extra coach and has a player who's family living in a house they can't afford, and he is driving a car he can't afford, all while the school flips the NCAA the bird, Socal will have a legit gripe.

[SoCalTrjn]

Who paid for Tebows NBA finals tickets? the reason there has been no reports is that Tim has been the media darling since he first arrived at Florida, it will just take one reporter with the balls to ask the right questions, how much more money did Tebows dads church take in while Tim was at florida than it did before Tim got to Florida.

The NCAA is also now investigating Florida for hiring Ronald Powells High School coach a week after he delivered Powell to the Gators and who paid for Powells 5 trips to Gainesville last fall. That coach has now talked a player still at that High School in to switching his commitment to Florida. Troy Starr over again.

[Killian]

Again, no link? Shut the fuck up.

[poptart]

of those thousands of sample subjects, how many of them are football players with higher sat scores than the student body average? huh? huh?

Of course there are some football players with SAT scores higher than the student body average.
Everyone knows this.



This, in attempt to downplay the fact that knuckle-dragging college football players score 20+% lower than the college body at large on the SAT, remains one of THE most hilarious things evar posted:

here's how math works, vagina:

a closer gives up 2 runs over 12 innings while converting his first 10 saves. his era is 1.50. his next game he gives up a walk-off grand slam. his era is now 4.38. average tells the full story here, right?

First, his era is 1.66, not 1.50, if he has given up 2 runs over 12 innings - so you fucked that up.
Second, his era goes up to 4.61, not 4.38, if he has then given up 6 runs in 13 innings, as you say in your example - so you fucked that up, too.

Not that any of your small fuck ups matter at all in this discussion, but it's fun to note that you FAILED in a simple math example.

But let's look at your example and see what is obvious to everyone except YOU.


In the student body study which I cited, 54 Universities were used.
I don't know how many students SAT scores were used, but lets go very conservative and say they used SAT scores of just 5,000 students.
Your example used just ... 13 (innings).

5,000 divided by 13 = 385

This means that we would have 385 such FAILS (walk off grand slams given up) ON AVERAGE if we expanded your "closer" example out from a sample of just 13 innings pitched out to 5,000 innings pitched.

Is it sinking in yet?


There is no way you can get around the FACT that a 20+% SAT deficiency gap between football players and the general student body means that you have a LOT of seriously HORRIBLE FOOTBALL IDIOTS walking around campus who don't belong there.

Of course there are some college football players who score higher on the SAT than the general student body.
Everyone knows it.

But you can't get away from THE REALITY that the opposite (and dramatically so) is much more the rule than the exception.

The numbers prove it.

[M Club]

...remains one of THE most hilarious things evar posted:

here's how math works, vagina:

a closer gives up 2 runs over 12 innings while converting his first 10 saves. his era is 1.50. his next game he gives up a walk-off grand slam. his era is now 4.38. average tells the full story here, right?

First, his era is 1.66, not 1.50, if he has given up 2 runs over 12 innings - so you fucked that up.
Second, his era goes up to 4.61, not 4.38, if he has then given up 6 runs in 13 innings, as you say in your example - so you fucked that up, too.

Not that any of your small fuck ups matter at all in this discussion, but it's fun to note that you FAILED in a simple math example.

er? i just spent five minutes double checking if i had downs because surely you can't be that retarded.

2 earned runs multiplied by 9 divided by 12 innings pitched = 1.5.

retard.

also, if someone gives up a walk-off anything he wouldn't have finished the complete inning. he's either pitched 12.1 or 12.2 innings because i forgot to write i was thinking it was a one-out grand slam. if he had pitched 13 innings his era would be 4.15.

retard. maybe you should let your slant wife double check your math before posting next time.

not that any of your small fuck ups matter at all in this discussion but it's fun to note that you FAILED trying to point out i FAILED in my small math example.

But let's look at your example and see what is obvious to everyone except YOU.

In the student body study which I cited, 54 Universities were used.
I don't know how many students SAT scores were used, but lets go very conservative and say they used SAT scores of just 5,000 students.
Your example used just ... 13 (innings).

5,000 divided by 13 = 385

This means that we would have 385 such FAILS (walk off grand slams given up) ON AVERAGE if we expanded your "closer" example out from a sample of just 13 innings pitched out to 5,000 innings pitched.

Is it sinking in yet?


There is no way you can get around the FACT that a 20+% SAT deficiency gap between football players and the general student body means that you have a LOT of seriously HORRIBLE FOOTBALL IDIOTS walking around campus who don't belong there.

Of course there are some college football players who score higher on the SAT than the general student body.
Everyone knows it.

But you can't get away from THE REALITY that the opposite (and dramatically so) is much more the rule than the exception.

The numbers prove it.

i understand what sample size is. i'm pretty sure i've already said i buy into the athlete-as-poptart stereotype. but i'm still waiting for you to point out any sort of policy that's been adopted simply on the basis of average since i thought ANSWER THE QUESTION was so important to you. your gay policy proposal would get laughed out of america and then korea since it takes all of five seconds to realize a lot of good students would be pulled out of their actual classes to be enrolled in your stupid azz football curriculum even though there are entire herds of meatheads running around campus who can barely think nor can they jump all that high.

[poptart]

My bad, BtH.

M Club had that 1.50 number correct.
The 2nd number we are not sure about.
Brain fart on my part there.

But as I said, not that it matters to the discussion ...

You can't spin away from a 20+% average deficit and claim "anomaly" when a very large sample of numbers is used.

[poptart]

but i'm still waiting for you to point out any sort of policy that's been adopted simply on the basis of average since i thought ANSWER THE QUESTION was so important to you

Policy in ... what?

There are countless policies put in place based on averages.

Is this a serious question? lol

takes all of five seconds to realize a lot of good students would be pulled out of their actual classes to be enrolled in your stupid azz football curriculum

No, they could take "actual" classes in addition to the football "curriculum that they are already basically involved in.
You know, sort of keep doing what they are already doing.

[M Club]

The 2nd number we are not sure about.

we're sure about it. bth laid out the three possibilities (one that matched what i had in mind). even with your 13 innings you were still dead fucking wrong. not bad for some anti-rainman who took time out of his day to tell me i was hahahahaha wrong. you clowned yourself. of course, now you're back to saying...

But as I said, not that it matters to the discussion ...

maybe you should have skipped that "math for bible heads" class.

You can't spin away from a 20+% average deficit and claim "anomaly" when a very large sample of numbers is used.

i never said it was an anomaly. point out where i did. i simply said simple averages don't begin to tell the full story. of course, you're a retard and can't fucking read.

Policy in ... what?

There are countless policies put in place based on averages.

Is this a serious question? lol

i don't really know, choose one: public health policy, insurance policy, fiscal policy, educational policy, immigration policy. if averages meant anything then people wouldn't waste their time on actuarial science. imagine a world where averages determined policies:

american men spend an average of 3.5 years in jail.
canadian men spend an average of 1.2 years in jail.
(yes, i made those numbers up.)

ohhhhhh, the averages! let's make a policy!

you're fucking stupid.

[poptart]

i simply said simple averages don't begin to tell the full story. i never said it was an anomaly. point out where i did.

They DO tell the full story, despite your strange denial of that reality - and your foolish 13 sample example.
And the entire purpose of your little example was to try to establish that an anomaly can take place which will skew an average.

But in a very large sample, your idiotic premise falls flat on it's face.

If you take a sample of many thousand, and one specific group of folks within the sample come in with a deficit of 20+% compared to the whole of the sample, it is a FACT that a LOT of them have significantly LOW scores.

There is no debating the point, @sshead.


Are you still asking the "Name a policy based on average" question?

You're high, right?


Ok, health insurance.

Smokers are made to pay a higher premium because, based on AVERAGE, they get seriously ill more, and younger, than those who do not smoke.

It sucks for the smoker who DOES take generally good care of himself - going to the gym, watching his diet, etc.

Not ALL smokers go into poor health, but the insurance companies have set a policy based on AVERAGE, because smokers DO, as a group, get seriously ill, and younger, than those who do not smoke.


Football players DO, as a group, score over 20% lower than the entire student body.

This means that a whole lot of football players, AS INDIVIDUALS, score very low on the SAT.

Reality 101.

[poptart]

The next thing to point out to your dumb face is that your point that "Some football players score HIGHER on their SAT than the general student population" ... only serves to make things WORSE for your case.

Self ass kick, hello.

lol


Let's take the U. of Georgia as an example, since the numbers were given in the article I cited.

At the University of Georgia, the average football SAT was 949, which is 239 points behind the average for an undergraduate student at Georgia.

Football players - 949 avg.
General students - 1188 avg.

Multiply the 949 score by the number of football players, 85, and we get 80665.

Let's assume that 20 football players (out of 85) DO (as you want to point out) score higher on their SAT than the general student population, and let's put their average score at a very conservative 1200.

20 players x 1200 score = 24000

Subtract 24000 from 80655 and we get 56655

Divide 56655 by the remaining football players (65) and we get 871 for an average SAT score among those 65 players who scored below the general population average of 1188.

That is 27% lower than the general student population.

It doesn't take a brainiac, no it only takes someone brighter than YOU, to realize that in order to come up with an AVERAGE which is 27% lower than the general student population, you must, by necessity, have prolly, what?, 15-20 players (at least?) among those 65 walking around campus who are ... just one step above Piltdown Man,

And this is just at ONE school - looking at things very CONSERVATIVELY.






Nationwide, coaches who would never offer a scholarship to a player who was 6 inches shorter or half a second slower than other prospects routinely recruit players whose standardized test scores suggest they’re at a competitive disadvantage in the classroom.

It’s the price of winning.

“If you’re going to mount a competitive program in Division I-A, and our institution is committed to do that, some flexibility in admissions of athletes is going to take place,” said Tom Lifka, chairman of the committee that handles athlete admissions at the University of California, Los Angeles. “Every institution I know in the country operates in the same way. It may or may not be a good thing, but that’s the way it is.”

[Moby Dick]

^^^

tears, spray...tears.

[poptart]

L-R: M Club, poptart

[M Club]

The next thing to point out to your dumb face is that your point that "Some football players score HIGHER on their SAT than the general student population" ... only serves to make things WORSE for your case.

Self ass kick, hello.

lol

what exactly is your counterpoint here? for one thing, it's probably not the wisest strategy to begin with the premise that i'm right before trying to prove me wrong. otherwise, you say there are retarded football players. have i said differently?

Let's take the U. of Georgia as an example, since the numbers were given in the article I cited.

uh, let's not. we've already seen how good you are with numbers. what'd you get out of all that number crunching anyhow? that if you remove the best scores from a population sample that the average drops? outstanding work. you must work in finance. why don't you remove all the uga honors students from that study and see what happens to the general student body's average sat scores, though that would require you to rework your math to account for the extra few players you now have to add to the 20 you assumed had better scores than your average work-a-day student.

and yes, you're so obviously right: setting insurance premiums has nothing to do with complex algorithms because all it really takes is to add these and divide by that. dumbfuck.

[M Club]

L-R: M Club, poptart

is that what this was?

This, in attempt to downplay the fact that knuckle-dragging college football players score 20+% lower than the college body at large on the SAT, remains one of THE most hilarious things evar posted:

here's how math works, vagina:

a closer gives up 2 runs over 12 innings while converting his first 10 saves. his era is 1.50. his next game he gives up a walk-off grand slam. his era is now 4.38. average tells the full story here, right?

First, his era is 1.66, not 1.50, if he has given up 2 runs over 12 innings - so you fucked that up.
Second, his era goes up to 4.61, not 4.38, if he has then given up 6 runs in 13 innings, as you say in your example - so you fucked that up, too.

Not that any of your small fuck ups matter at all in this discussion, but it's fun to note that you FAILED in a simple math example.

[poptart]

Funny and predictable that you would try to hang your hat on a minor brain fart of mine (which has NOTHING to do with the topic) for which I IMMEDIATELY came correct on.

You, on the other hand, have turned into a virtual Maytag Deluxe on the actual CONTENT of the thread - spin x forever.

You begged for an example of policy based on average, and I gave one - health insurance, and you found that to be ... not pleasant, I guess.

There is no basis for disagreement with my answer - but you just ... do.

lol

Hint: If you want to toss the word DUMBFUCK around, don't be one.

yw

why don't you remove all the uga honors students from that study and see what happens to the general student body's average sat scores

Now why would we do that?

Oh, I get it -- to remove a portion of the cock from your @ss.

The honor students make up a part of the whole, you moronic rube.

That's why it's this thing called an average.

LMAO



Tell ya what, twat, let's slice through all of your denial and insanity and ask a couple of simple questions.

I know it comes at the tremendous risk of you responding with "I don't like that you are a Christian," "You called your wife a slant," "Name a policy based on average," "Let's not count the numbers that fuck me over," or "The sky isn't really blue," but what the hey, let's give it a shot.

1. Do you acknowlege the reality that, based on the cited study, maybe 15-20 (or more) of U. of Georgia's fooball players scored 30-50% (some maybe more) lower on their SATs than the general student population average?

2. If no, why do you not agree with that blatant reality?

3. If yes, how can such seriously intellectually-lacking individuals be expected to go through a legitimate college curriculum, and especially in consideration of the fact that they already have VERY BIG time and energy requirements on their plate by virtue of being in the football program?

[M Club]

Funny and predictable that you would try to hang your hat on a minor brain fart of mine (which has NOTHING to do with the topic) for which I IMMEDIATELY came correct on.

i've hung my hat on every one of your posts. that one, though, was brilliant on your part. basically just took the "your stupid" gaffe and made a whole weekend out of it.

You, on the other hand, have turned into a virtual Maytag Deluxe on the actual CONTENT of the thread - spin x forever.

i've been wholly consistent. point out where i haven't. i've maintained the entire time that while, yes, there are quite a few neanderthals on everyone's football team, there are also many players who have no issue succeeding as students, and strong-arming them into some gay football curriculum because their teammates are only slightly more intelligent than you is a stupid fucking idea that would never fly.

You begged for an example of policy based on average, and I gave one - health insurance, and you found that to be ... not pleasant, I guess.

There is no basis for disagreement with my answer - but you just ... do.

lol

i don't disagree with your answer so much as it's just wrong. insurance premiums aren't set by calculating simple averages.

why don't you remove all the uga honors students from that study and see what happens to the general student body's average sat scores

Now why would we do that?

Oh, I get it -- to remove a portion of the cock from your @ss.

The honor students make up a part of the whole, you moronic rube.

That's why it's this thing called an average.

LMAO

m clueless? is that part of your 'bode? you're going on an on about how football players can't hack the general curriculum when, in fact, there are quite a few students enrolled in the general curriculum with piss poor sat scores as well. they're decidedly less-than-average but still allowed to maintain the pretense of being "real students?"

Tell ya what, twat, let's slice through all of your denial and insanity and ask a couple of simple questions.

I know it comes at the tremendous risk of you responding with "I don't like that you are a Christian," "You called your wife a slant," "Name a policy based on average," "Let's not count the numbers that fuck me over," or "The sky isn't really blue," but what the hey, let's give it a shot.

1. Do you acknowlege the reality that, based on the cited study, maybe 15-20 (or more) of U. of Georgia's fooball players scored 30-50% (some maybe more) lower on their SATs than the general student population average?

2. If no, why do you not agree with that blatant reality?

3. If yes, how can such seriously intellectually-lacking individuals be expected to go through a legitimate college curriculum, and especially in consideration of the fact that they already have VERY BIG time and energy requirements on their plate by virtue of being in the football program?

i really don't care that you're a christian; you just make a horrible case for it. calling your wife a slant is a personality defect; that's on you. still waiting for a policy implemented after calculating for simple average.

as for your questions, i've answered 1 repeatedly. i think that you don't know my answer is an indictment against your ability to think. or that you're a sociopath.

your football curriculum is gay and dumb and retarded and amusing. you should have just said you were talking out of your ass and called it a day. "oh, let's have a football curriculum because it sounds like a good idea." when pressed for an actual explanation you said they should take some basic requirements and an occasional class in their major. oh, so basically you suggested they should do what they're already doing. great fucking proposal, monkey.

[poptart]

still waiting for a policy implemented after calculating for simple average.

You got your answer and now, because it's stuck in your @ss, you're trying to spin your question into something else.

EAD and enjoy it from both ends, faggot.


Do you want to answer the three questions, or not, dickless?

Same piss-weak bullshit you pulled in the other thread.

FAIL to address direct questions and instead ramble on with your own sensless and unrelated diatribes.


Grow a brain, and balls, in that order.

[M Club]

You got your answer and now, because it's stuck in your @ss, you're trying to spin your question into something else.

EAD and enjoy it from both ends, faggot.

spin my question into something else?

Do you want to answer the three questions, or not, dickless?

Same piss-weak bullshit you pulled in the other thread.

FAIL to address direct questions and instead ramble on with your own sensless and unrelated diatribes.

why should i answer the same questions i've answered numerous times already, dick stopper? if you cared to know my answer you could read something i've already written. it'd probably save you from looking like the flailing, sociopathic dildo smack you are were you to stop trying to convince me there are stupid football players. i suppose it's your own choice to continue sounding like this guy:

[poptart]

poptart: Do you want to answer the three questions, or not, dickless?


M Crud:

[M Club]

i suppose we'll call that your white flag. hope your weekend is better than any of that shite smack you run.

[poptart]

The white flag, obviously, was your gonad-lacking failure (again lol) to answer the direct questions put to you.
Duh.





From: poptart

To: M Chug

[M Club]

i answered it, homo. is that the fourth or seventeenth time i said as much? you lost.

[poptart]

You said you answered? lol

Who gives a fuck?

The fact is, you did NOT answer them.

Why do you lie, M Chump?

Nobody noticed, right?

The reason you will not answer is because you know the answers will damn you.
The answers will lead you to deeper questions and to the ugly reality you want to sweep under the rug.

Instead of answering and confronting, you wish to float around on the periphery of the issue and act as if you acknowledge there is some issue - while happily sheeping along with the status quo charade in place.

Like this ...

besides, it's not like virtual football majors don't already exist. they're called 'general studies' or 'kinesiology.'

If this is your take, you're deep in denial - or an idiot.
One or the other.

A degree in either requires a person to be a legit student (unless of course some ... monkey business ... is going on) who must make it through a number of legitimately challenging courses - especially when you are a person who has scored 30-50% lower than average on an SAT and is already loaded down by a serious time and energy commitment to a football program.



These are the questions.


1. Do you acknowlege the reality that, based on the cited study, maybe 15-20 (or more) of U. of Georgia's fooball players scored 30-50% (some maybe more) lower on their SATs than the general student population average?

2. If no, why do you not agree with that blatant reality?

3. If yes, how can such seriously intellectually-lacking individuals be expected to go through a legitimate college curriculum, and especially in consideration of the fact that they already have VERY BIG time and energy requirements on their plate by virtue of being in the football program?


Last chance, twat.



You may GO ...

[FLW Buckeye]

[poptart]

Tremendous input, FLW Drunkguy.

I'd search your posts to see if you've ... ever ... produced a worthwhile take, but witnessing you inject such a tuly fatuous offering as that into the thread, I already have my answer.

Your takes suck and you have absolutely nothing to offer.
And to top it off, you have all the mental skills of a fart-obsessed 9 yr old.

Other than that, I'm sure you're top drawer.

Thanks!

[FLW Buckeye]

Other than that, I'm sure you're top drawer.

Thanks!

Anytime!

[Dinsdale]

Reminds me of the story my buddy told me back in the mid/late 80's...

Said it Oregon State, he had one of those big auditorium classes with a buhzillion people. He said he frequently sat next to Gary Payton, who always appeared to be a very short Asian gal... but answered "he-ruh" to "Gary Payton" the couple of times they had a rollcall, and signed her papers as such...

He always told Gary "wow, you look so much taller on TV."

He of course always tried to sit next to Gary Payton, because he said "he" was hot and he wanted to get in "his" pants.

[M Club]

You said you answered? lol

Who gives a fuck?

The fact is, you did NOT answer them.

Why do you lie, M Chump?

Nobody noticed, right?

er, i answered. it's not like i can say otherwise since there aren't any edits in any of my posts.

The reason you will not answer is because you know the answers will damn you.
The answers will lead you to deeper questions and to the ugly reality you want to sweep under the rug.

hahahahahaha. wtf is that? your end-of-days church bullshit?

Last chance, twat.

like last time where you wouldn't post anymore unless i answer them before dropping three more pages of whatever it is you ramble on about?

[M Club]

No shit.

remember that time you were all boo hoo, psu, why did you delete me from your facebook friends whaaah? that was gay.

[M Club]

whah, psu, why won't you accept my facebook request??????

homo.

didn't you run off to some other board with that cunt and her midget troll.

g'eh.

[M Club]

poptart's running around like a retard asking me to answer some pointless question i've already answered. you're just mad because you asked psu to be your boyfriend and he said no.