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Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:00 pm
by Cuda
Martyred wrote:
smackaholic wrote:we should have used that episode to clean syria's clock at the time.
Why?

What fight do you have with Syria?
An easy win- like Nebraska playing Baylor

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:05 pm
by Dinsdale
smackaholic wrote:if iran doesn't go to shit during carter's watch, saddam doesn't even think about blinking in iran's direction as he knew that iran's very well funded and trained military with a few squadron's worth of shiney new f-14s would butt fukk him in the mouf in short order.

he attacked iran because he felt they were weaker than they actually were as a result of that little islamic revolution thingie they were in the middle of.

All speculation, and I'm certainly not in complete disagreement with your assertions.

I was working under the hypothetical that Saddam would have attacked Iran regardless, since he was kind of in attack mode at the time, what with Rummy sucking his dick at the time.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:07 pm
by smackaholic
Martyred wrote:
smackaholic wrote:we should have used that episode to clean syria's clock at the time.
Why?

What fight do you have with Syria?
Syria was a chief instigator in lebanon.

They were ripe for a good bitch slapping.

Instead we were all [monty python voice] RUNAWAY!!!!!RUNAWAY!!!!! [/monty python voice].

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:13 pm
by smackaholic
Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:if iran doesn't go to shit during carter's watch, saddam doesn't even think about blinking in iran's direction as he knew that iran's very well funded and trained military with a few squadron's worth of shiney new f-14s would butt fukk him in the mouf in short order.

he attacked iran because he felt they were weaker than they actually were as a result of that little islamic revolution thingie they were in the middle of.

All speculation, and I'm certainly not in complete disagreement with your assertions.

I was working under the hypothetical that Saddam would have attacked Iran regardless, since he was kind of in attack mode at the time, what with Rummy sucking his dick at the time.
Saddam became as brazen as he did after watching us let the shah fall like we did. he figured that we were all done with backing foreign allies given the way we handled vietnam and then iran.

ofcourse, given saddam's pertty much suicidal behavior later on, maybe you are right. maybe he would have attacked and the shah would have had his head on a pike sometime around 1982 which would have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble.

i doubt this would have been the case though. as with most ruthless aggressors, an early bitch slapping would have sufficed.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:17 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:
Derron wrote: Exactly..and it all started when Cliton let the Somolia's get away with the shit in Mogadishu bleams ago.
Actually, it started with Carter pissing away Iran and continued with Reagan who bolted out of Lebanon like a raped ape.
This is "fleeing" Lebanon?
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And as for "pissing away" Iran...??? What makes you think we had any chance whatsoever to control Iran? Or that we had any right whatsoever to attempt to do so?

Are you some kind of wind-up junior fascist spitting out nasty seething insults at everyone who comes near your cage?...Oh yeah... :wink:

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:26 pm
by mvscal
Dinsdale wrote: I was working under the hypothetical that Saddam would have attacked Iran regardless, since he was kind of in attack mode at the time, what with Rummy sucking his dick at the time.
Wrong

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:31 pm
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Derron wrote: Exactly..and it all started when Cliton let the Somolia's get away with the shit in Mogadishu bleams ago.
Actually, it started with Carter pissing away Iran and continued with Reagan who bolted out of Lebanon like a raped ape.
This is "fleeing" Lebanon?
Image
Are you fucking retarded or something? We're talking about the Hezbollah bombing of the Marine barracks in Beruit in 1983 and you post a picture of the Israeli-Lebanese conflict in 2006.

http://www.nowlebanon.com/Sub.aspx?ID=1 ... ParentID=3

What, exactly, is your malfunction?

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:56 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Well, guess what? It looked the same in '06 as it did in '83.

Do you want a picture of the carnage of 1983? Will that help you realize that we didn't "flee" at all but ravaged the tiny nation with and on behalf of the ZioNazis.

Okay..
Beruit 1983
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Happy now?

Now, explain how this constitutes "fleeing," and what would "staying" entail?

And don't think you can hide from your idiotic suggestion that we "pissed away" Iran. You're such a squirming worm.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:51 pm
by PSUFAN
PSUFAN wrote:So...what exactly did we achieve in Iraq?
I need your answer by 5:00pm est

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:36 pm
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Okay..
Beruit 1983
Image

Happy now?

Now, explain how this constitutes "fleeing," and what would "staying" entail?
What the fuck does have to do with us?
And don't think you can hide from your idiotic suggestion that we "pissed away" Iran.
Yes, we did. We did nothing to support the Shah when it would have been easily within our power to do so.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:39 pm
by mvscal
PSUFAN wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:So...what exactly did we achieve in Iraq?
I need your answer by 5:00pm est
We 86'd the prime shit disturber in the region. We secured our oil supply in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia from further interference. Now, rather than a openly hostile regime in Iraq, we have a reasonably well inclined Arab state smack in the middle of the most strategically vital patch of dirt on planet earth.

Don't be afraid to think sometime, if you're able.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:39 pm
by MadRussian
mvscal wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:So...what exactly did we achieve in Iraq?
I need your answer by 5:00pm est
We 86'd the prime shit disturber in the region. We secured our oil supply in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia from further interference. Now, rather than a openly hostile regime in Iraq, we have a reasonably well inclined Arab state smack in the middle of the most strategically vital patch of dirt on planet earth.

Don't be afraid to think sometime, if you're able.

RACK stating the obvious to dumbfucks

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:45 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
mvscal wrote:
Yes, we did. We did nothing to support the Shah when it would have been easily within our power to do so.
Calm down, slappy. The writing was on the wall for the Shah for years.

If he couldn't suppress internal dissent with the Savak for 25 years, your pissing on the bonfire to put it out certainly wasn't going to be of much help.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:54 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Okay..
Beruit 1983
Image

Happy now?

Now, explain how this constitutes "fleeing," and what would "staying" entail?
What the fuck does have to do with us?
And don't think you can hide from your idiotic suggestion that we "pissed away" Iran.
Yes, we did. We did nothing to support the Shah when it would have been easily within our power to do so.

What does this carnage have to do with us? Well, we directly participated in it, for starters. In fact the U.S. military was lobbing shells the size of volkswagons at fleeing Druze Christians in the hills. Real brave shit.

As for continuing to prop up the Shah, are you kidding? I know damn well you won't dare to attempt to back up that inane Limpdickian wet dream, but what else is new.

No, Avi, we never had a chance to maintain the post-colonial control over that large, educated and wealthy land. Our slimy CIA machinations did however pave the way for the fundamentalist state.

But then, you're still in the curled fetal position of believing we "pissed away" Vietnam--and with proper heavy handed all-out military crushing in the style of the Germans in WWII we could have "won." Oy Vey! :doh:

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:28 am
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Well, we directly participated in it, for starters. In fact the U.S. military was lobbing shells the size of volkswagons at fleeing Druze Christians in the hills.
That was all we did. I also can't help but notice that those aren't hills, are they?

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:44 am
by smackaholic
LTS TRN 2 wrote: But then, you're still in the curled fetal position of believing we "pissed away" Vietnam--and with proper heavy handed all-out military crushing in the style of the Germans in WWII we could have "won." Oy Vey! :doh:
uhhh, yeah pretty much. a little good old fashioned heavy handedness works every time. ask the japs.

Re: Our Options in Iraq

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:33 am
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Well, we directly participated in it, for starters. In fact the U.S. military was lobbing shells the size of volkswagons at fleeing Druze Christians in the hills.
That was all we did. I also can't help but notice that those aren't hills, are they?
Is that even English? Are you totally bombed? Again?

Yes, Avi, there are hills around the city of Beruit, and when the Druze were fleeing the massacre of the U.S. and ZioNazis we shelled them. Okay? Sober up, punk.