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War Wagon wrote:

Felix wrote:San Diego State is a fucking AWESOME team....

I don't know about that, but they damn sure put a scare in Mizzou in Week 3. I thought we wuz beat. They had us by the short curlies and only a fluke of a last minute play saved our bacon.

welcome to Lincoln, Wags...sure...NU has yet to prove they can play as well at home as they play on the road (Wazzou, Stillwater, etc.) but, let's say they finally do play like a Husker team in Lincoln (it's going to happen Saturday) ... mizzou gets exposed....in a bad way. bet on it.

Bizzarofelice wrote:felix equals jake33?

I don't post enough in this forum to know what that means...

Go Coogs' wrote:What's it gonna take for Boise St to get in then?

Boise State can go undefeated for the next five years and they'll still never get to the MNC....power conferences simply wield too much influence to ever let a non-BCS team into the MNC...not Boise, not TCU.....you think any of the BCS conferences are going to let the huge payday from the MNC game go easily?

Sudden Sam wrote: For BSU to get to the championship game, they need to play in a conference that requires a little bit of effort to get thru 8 games. Playing pissants every week should not qualify a team to get that berth.

so you're saying Hawaii, Fresno State, and Nevada aren't worthy opponents?

shit, nevada is in the to 25 and Hawaii is knocking on the door of the top 25

that's right bud, look at the schedule and not the team, just like a typical ball sucking BCS conference honk should....

Sudden Sam wrote:Play a stretch of teams like LSU, Florida, Arkansas, Georgia (yeah, I said Georgia!), Auburn, Alabama or Michigan State, Iowa, Ohio State, Illinois (yeah, I said Illinois!) or Oklahoma, Texas (yeah, I said...you know), Missouri, Nebraska, Okie State...then get back to me.

just another way of saying "if they played in the SEC"

rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat

There is no doubt in my mind that Boise is a well-coached, talented football team. There's no doubt in my mind that they could beat Alabama, Ohio State, or Oklahoma. However...they don't deserve a shot as long as they're not playing a decent schedule.

so what you're saying here is that half of the teams that play FBS football are automatically excluded, no matter what they do? college football is the only sport where idiocy like this reigns...that would be equivalent to telling half the field in a PGA tour event "look, it doesn't matter what score you shoot, you can't win because your not worthy of winning"...how fucking crazy is that? but in reality, that's exactly what you're saying...

if I were you I wouldn't watch the game tonight because obviously Boise State isn't worthy of the time spent watching...they're obviously a much lower life form that people like you shouldn't waste your valuable time on....hell, you should probably be posting on the SEC message boards as to how great the SEC is....

If they played a real schedule, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. If BSU played an 8 game schedule in the SEC, Big Ten, or Big 12...they'd have 2, 3, 4 losses.

rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat

I could handle them being part of a 16 team playoff. Then they'd have to play at least 4 games against good teams to win the title. That I'd be fine with.

that's pretty magnanimous of you...of course it's meaningless, but magnanimous none the less

If the Broncos strung together 4 games against quality competition, fine. But playing the shit schools they do does not make them qualified (IMHO) to play for the BCS title.

rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat

if they played in the ACC or the Big East, we wouldn't be having this discussion either, they'd still be undefeated and would be ranked #1....I notice you always seem to leave out the other two auto qualifying confenences when you go on your little "if they played in the _______(insert conference)" binges...why is that

Papa Willie wrote: Dude - you're NOT playing a very good schedule when you're favored that much in every game. That's sick! :D

dude, I know its a suck ass schedule, but there's nothing Boise State can do about it...all they can do is play the teams scheduled

shit, if horrible schedules were an issue: there's a pretty good chance michigan state will finish undefeated. to do so they will have beaten 2.5 real teams (wisco, iowa, and michigan's offense) and then...?

Sudden Sam wrote:Okay, Felix...first of all, you're a good dude...I'm not attacking you, so relax.

okay, relaxed

I watched what I could stand of your game last night. The 'what I could stand' is a reference to that godawful Hasbro field. Please talk some sense into the school administrators and get a real football field. That blue crap is horrible to watch a game on. I know it was a Tuesday, but I could see that 1/2 of Boise's fans agreed...lotsa empty seats.

the majority of empty seats were in the student section, for whatever reason...it was really cold and prior to the start of the game, it was raining...still, no reason for that many empty seats

Not impressed at all with BSU. They couldn't stay on the field throughout a full "real" conference season. They'd be run by midseason. .500 team at best in any BCS conference.

they didn't play very well last night....too many missed tackles but no team can play it's absolute best every time out....but seriously do you have anything other than simply carping the same non-sense about "playing in the _______ (insert conference)? You constantly bring this up, but trust me if they'd take a game against Alabama or Arkansas, or LSU in a heartbeat-start petitioning those teams to schedule Boise State.....I'm not arguing they'd have a tougher go of it in a stronger conference, so really, give it a rest.....I'm still convinced that were they playing in the ACC or the Big East, they'd be undefeated and ranked first All they can do is play the teams put in front of them....

That said, good luck the rest of the way. I've decided that I want y'all to win out, go to the championship game and win it. That really is the best hope for getting rid of the BCS as it stands now.

agreed

If that doesn't change things, you'll see Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. applying for membership in shit conferences, running the table every year, and laughing their way into the BCS title game.

really? do you think Alabama would give up their yearly revenue generated from playing in the SEC for the pittance that teams like Boise State receive? and do you honestly think LSU could recruit the same caliber talent if they were playing in a lesser conference? Auburn would never see another 5 star recruit if they were playing in the mid-atlantic conference.... there are obviously lots of concepts you don't seem to grasp when you make statements like that....

Seriously, does anyone really believe that beating up on junior college teams should get you into a title game at the top level?

which "junior college" teams are you referring to?

Take a look at the home teams who have sold out to ESPN and allowed Tuesday night games.

Some real Div I powerhouses on that list.

i love the boise state slippery slope. first it was they couldn't go undefeated in a bcs conference and gradually it's become they couldn't go .500. interesting considering they usually play what, the bcs dregs?

Felix wrote:that would be equivalent to telling half the field in a PGA tour event "look, it doesn't matter what score you shoot, you can't win because your not worthy of winning"...how fucking crazy is that?

That's a good analogy -- if a guy on the PGA Tour shoots 65,64,63,62 on the executive course while everyone else is playing a 7400 yard monster, should that guy get the big cardboard check on sunday afternoon?


If BSU tears up the MWC next season the way they have the WAC, then they deserve much love in the BCS. Still might take at least one really tough OOC game, but run through the MWC undefeated (either BSU or TCU is going to get a loss next year), and we'll start talking about championship games.

on the golf analogy....everyone in the PGA tournament plays the same golf course. Boise doesn't play the same schedule as everyone else.....it's a variable. the golf course is a constant.

King Crimson wrote:on the golf analogy....everyone in the PGA tournament plays the same golf course. Boise doesn't play the same schedule as everyone else.....it's a variable. the golf course is a constant.

Exactly, and you can't hang your hat on one round of the tournament either....you have to play four if you make the cut. Translation: play more than one or two decent teams, or mix in an actual quality opponent or two during the regular season, so everyone can make a more educated judgment on whether you belong in the top 10 or 25.

Mace wrote:

King Crimson wrote:on the golf analogy....everyone in the PGA tournament plays the same golf course. Boise doesn't play the same schedule as everyone else.....it's a variable. the golf course is a constant.

Exactly, and you can't hang your hat on one round of the tournament either....you have to play four if you make the cut. Translation: play more than one or two decent teams, or mix in an actual quality opponent or two during the regular season, so everyone can make a more educated judgment on whether you belong in the top 10 or 25.

let's say after beating FSU and Texas, OU plays the WAC schedule....they certainly don't lose to Missouri that way. not a lot of Missouris on the BSU schedule once October starts.

how many times do you turn on a golf major and the guy who shot 63 the first round on Sunday is putting out on 18 when the TV coverage comes on...and the leaders are still on the practice tee warming up.

King Crimson wrote:

Mace wrote:

King Crimson wrote:on the golf analogy....everyone in the PGA tournament plays the same golf course. Boise doesn't play the same schedule as everyone else.....it's a variable. the golf course is a constant.

Exactly, and you can't hang your hat on one round of the tournament either....you have to play four if you make the cut. Translation: play more than one or two decent teams, or mix in an actual quality opponent or two during the regular season, so everyone can make a more educated judgment on whether you belong in the top 10 or 25.

let's say after beating FSU and Texas, OU plays the WAC schedule....they certainly don't lose to Missouri that way. not a lot of Missouris on the BSU schedule once October starts.

how many times do you turn on a golf major and the guy who shot 63 the first round on Sunday is putting out on 18 when the TV coverage comes on...and the leaders are still on the practice tee warming up.

Yep. How many conference schools in the WAC have even a sniff of knocking off BSU? Any of them? I don't think so. I think it's the Big Fish/Small Pond thing to the absolute extreme. At least in the BCS conferences there are potential upsets each and every week (see ISU-Texas) and teams have to actually prepare every week to avoid them. Northwestern and Illinois are middle of the pack teams in the Big 10 but they have the capability to beat anyone in the conference on a given Saturday. Not so in the WAC. A playoff system is the only true answer and I doubt that I'll live long enough to see it implemented. Gotta get me that Death to the BCS book that MGO posted about yesterday, even though it will probably only aggravate me.

Carson wrote:Take a look at the home teams who have sold out to ESPN and allowed Tuesday night games.

Some real Div I powerhouses on that list.

you just don't get it do you
Boise States football operating revenue for the year is just slightly over 5 million...compare that with LSU which will spend 60 million on football this year...so are you saying that BSU should simply stand their ground and not give into the monetary aspects of it? It's easy to say that when your SEC team is drowning in money, not so easy for a team that's operating on a minimalist budget with not much of an alumni base....don't lose sight of the fact that Boise State has only been a Div 1 program for 15 years.

I hope that by season's end the only undefeated team left is Boise State, and they get matched with Alabama in the championship game. Let's just say for a minute they win, because if they play up to the level of their talent they can beat anyone. Would that shut up any of you up for even a couple of days?