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Screw_Michigan wrote:Let's see some real, specific facts and analysis or just shove it.

Screw_Michigan wrote: Do you actually think when you write? This is so mind-numbingly ignorant. Your logic is absolutely baffling.

Mace wrote:I looked up the numbers several months ago, and I'm not going to do it again, but Boise sends far fewer athletes to the NFL than the other schools in the top 10-25, which is testament to the fact that they recruit lesser athletes than the other top teams. I posted that a few months ago and the response I received was "yeah, but if they were in the Big 10/Big 12/PAC 10/SEC, they'd be able to recruit better". Maybe so, but they are not in the Big 10/Big 12/Pac10/SEC, and they do not recruit the quality players that are found in those conferences. Dins pointed out this week that they would not meet the academic standards to ever be invited into the PAC and the same would be true for the Big 10, and probably for the SEC and Big 12. None of which really matters because they will never be invited into a major conference. They can outrecruit the members of the WAC because their facilities are better than the other schools in the conference, but they cannot recruit the best athletes because their facilities pale in comparison to the major conference schools, as does their pathetic schedule.

Boise is extremely well coached, and they make the most with the athletes they can recruit, but they are in no way one of the top 10 teams in the country...this year or any other year. Anyone who thinks otherwise is suffering from Cinderella syndrome.

Mace wrote:I looked up the numbers several months ago, and I'm not going to do it again, but Boise sends far fewer athletes to the NFL than the other schools in the top 10-25, which is testament to the fact that they recruit lesser athletes than the other top teams. I posted that a few months ago and the response I received was "yeah, but if they were in the Big 10/Big 12/PAC 10/SEC, they'd be able to recruit better". Maybe so, but they are not in the Big 10/Big 12/Pac10/SEC, and they do not recruit the quality players that are found in those conferences. Dins pointed out this week that they would not meet the academic standards to ever be invited into the PAC and the same would be true for the Big 10, and probably for the SEC and Big 12. None of which really matters because they will never be invited into a major conference. They can outrecruit the members of the WAC because their facilities are better than the other schools in the conference, but they cannot recruit the best athletes because their facilities pale in comparison to the major conference schools, as does their pathetic schedule.

Boise is extremely well coached, and they make the most with the athletes they can recruit, but they are in no way one of the top 10 teams in the country...this year or any other year. Anyone who thinks otherwise is suffering from Cinderella syndrome.

M Club wrote:not to mention i just went through this where they have four, possibly five bsu players projected for next year's draft.

Goober McTuber wrote:

M Club wrote:in sum, we have:

- boise sucks because they share a conference with bad teams.
- boise sucks because they played on a night where the laws of physics were the same as any other day of the week.
- boise sucks because their field has the exact same dimensions of any sec field though it's a different color.
- boise sucks because the number of circulatory systems within a 400 yard radius directly affects the quality of play.

we don't have:
- legitimate analysis of why boise isn't one of the top ten teams in the country.

RACK.

King Crimson wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:

M Club wrote:in sum, we have:

- boise sucks because they share a conference with bad teams.
- boise sucks because they played on a night where the laws of physics were the same as any other day of the week.
- boise sucks because their field has the exact same dimensions of any sec field though it's a different color.
- boise sucks because the number of circulatory systems within a 400 yard radius directly affects the quality of play.

we don't have:
- legitimate analysis of why boise isn't one of the top ten teams in the country.

RACK.

it's not that at all. some of us think that many other teams in the top 15 could be undefeated with BSU's schedule. let's say out of 15, generously, it's 8 teams. 7 teams currently lose to either Va Tech or Oregon State. middling type teams in terms of the top 25.

that hypothetical team: they are going to run the table in the WAC. there are 5-15 teams that can do that.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

M Club wrote:not to mention i just went through this where they have four, possibly five bsu players projected for next year's draft.

That's two more than Notre Dame. Really puts things in perspective.

SunCoastSooner wrote:How come Oregon is getting a free pass with the whole "this is the hand we're dealt" shit but Boise State is being pinged on for it? Oregon's schedule is a bona fide joke and they are basically being anointed to the title game; at least Boise State made a concerted effort to play a real team, any real team, OOC. Boise State is putting up similar type of offensive numbers as Oregon and against better competition so far and has actually held teams defensively. People are just hating on the Broncos because they are Boise State.

Killian wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:How come Oregon is getting a free pass with the whole "this is the hand we're dealt" shit but Boise State is being pinged on for it? Oregon's schedule is a bona fide joke and they are basically being anointed to the title game; at least Boise State made a concerted effort to play a real team, any real team, OOC. Boise State is putting up similar type of offensive numbers as Oregon and against better competition so far and has actually held teams defensively. People are just hating on the Broncos because they are Boise State.

Oregon is going to play one of BSU's "marquee" teams, and I would think that Stanford and/or USC will end up ranked higher than VaTech. Add in the rest of the Pac10 slate, and I don't know how you can say Oregon will have an easier path to the BCS game than Boise State.

As much as we joke about the "meat grinder", there is some truth in that. When you're playing tough games week after week, your starters play longer and aren't as fresh near the end of the season. BSU's starters will play into the 4th quarter probably twice before the bowl game.

Killian wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:How come Oregon is getting a free pass with the whole "this is the hand we're dealt" shit but Boise State is being pinged on for it? Oregon's schedule is a bona fide joke and they are basically being anointed to the title game; at least Boise State made a concerted effort to play a real team, any real team, OOC. Boise State is putting up similar type of offensive numbers as Oregon and against better competition so far and has actually held teams defensively. People are just hating on the Broncos because they are Boise State.

Oregon is going to play one of BSU's "marquee" teams, and I would think that Stanford and/or USC will end up ranked higher than VaTech. Add in the rest of the Pac10 slate, and I don't know how you can say Oregon will have an easier path to the BCS game than Boise State.

As much as we joke about the "meat grinder", there is some truth in that. When you're playing tough games week after week, your starters play longer and aren't as fresh near the end of the season. BSU's starters will play into the 4th quarter probably twice before the bowl game.

might[/] do and not what they actually have done? That makes a hell of a lot of sense.

SunCoastSooner wrote:Oregon's schedule is a bona fide joke and they are basically being anointed to the title game; at least Boise State made a concerted effort to play a real team, any real team, OOC.

Dinsdale wrote:
Sorry, dude -- Stanford, Kal, USC, Zona...

Killian wrote:Oh, so were putting the teams in the NC game based on what they've done only up until today? Noted.

Oregon has still had a tougher slate. I don't think any of their strongest opponet lost to a 1AA team at home. I could be wrong.

Papa Willie wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:Georgia wasn't eve able to beat the worst team in the Big 12... :doh: Put the pipe down SS.

Perhaps you should review what UGA has done since Colorado. Believe me - I LOATHE UGA. Nothing pains me more to say this, but right now - they are playing damned good ball. They've pulled a total 180 from the beginning of the year. Watch what happens against Florida this weekend.

As insane as this sounds, I think that right now, UGA might stand a slightly better shot at beating Auburn than Alabama does. It could damned well happen. I will be an angry bastard if it does happen!

Killian wrote:Has Oregon's marquee opponent lost to a 1AA team?

Killian wrote:Has Oregon's marquee opponent lost to a 1AA team?

Killian wrote:Has Oregon's marquee opponent lost to a 1AA team?

stuckinia wrote:And I do not think it was a case of being demoralized.

Killian wrote:App State was the best team in 1AA when Michigan lost to them.

Papa Willie wrote:My brother got his MDA at ASU

Papa Willie wrote:Now where in the fuck did I say that? Let's put it this way - they could probably beat OU right now.

All teams go through different phases in a season. Most teams don't react that well to the road - certainly the further they travel.

Though I'm sure a lot of you didn't watch it, the Oregon/Tennessee game was a defining moment (IMO) for both teams. Oregon traveled across the country. That automatically fucks them up. UT is nothing but Freshmen. In the first quarter, UT absolutely dominated that game. They were riding higher than DiS over a pack of kiddie-doodling police. Normally, a road team like that is fucked if they get jumped on like that. It's not that big a deal in the NFL, but college is a different story. Obviously, Oregon came back and kicked their shit out. They did it again to Stanford (who is definitely a Top 10 team IMO). Had UT been able to hold off the Ducks, god only knows where they'd be now. That game mentally fucked UT for the year. They've shown some blasts of good playing, but they're too young to get the job done. On the other hand, it made the Ducks confidence shoot through the roof.

That's a lot of it. Hell - that's most of it.

I think Mgo made a statement of something like "you know how teams can do from week to week". He was right.

I'd be willing to bet that if OU were to play FSU again AT OU tomorrow, you can forget about OU winning that one by 30. No fucking way. FSU is playing much better ball right now.

Teams can play badly at one point of a season and turn it the fuck around, too. I think you know that.

Papa Willie wrote: I don't think UM has recovered from that game even to this day!

Screw_Michigan wrote:I didn't know an MDA was even available, nevertheless through a business school, fatso.

Felix wrote:Eat a dick and keep your mouths shut, losers