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Am I the only one in here who is extremely amused by NOJ pointing fingers at his erstwhile mancrush? I would hope not.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Am I the only one in here who is extremely amused by NOJ pointing fingers at his erstwhile mancrush? I would hope not.

No, you're not the only one, Terry. Of course love can be fleeting.

Mace wrote:

TheJON wrote:

Mace wrote:Gene Chizik has won a lot of close games this year, JON, so is he a better coach than Ferentz? Or is it because he has the talented playmaker that Iowa lacks? Is it coaching or the player that has gotten Auburn on the verge of playing for the title?

We will not win close games with a playmaker because of our offensive philosophy. Defensively, maybe. Period.

Oh, is this another one of your "facts"???

So, is Gene Chizik a better coach than Ferentz? Using jonsense, I guess he'd have to be since he's winning the close ones with Cam Newton and Ferentz is losing them with Stanzi. :roll:

Is Gene Chizik a better coach than Ferentz? I have no idea. Ask me in 3-4 years when I have more data. What I do know is Chizik has done a fantastic job at Auburn in 2 years while Kirk has done a fantastic job at Iowa in 12.

Does Chizik prepare his team better for clutch situations than Kirk? Again, I need more data than 1 year of winning close games. There's no doubt a big part of their clutch success is due to having a special player like Cam Newton. Now, before you try and use what I just said as some sort of proof that it takes players only to win clutch games........how many teams do you think have a player like Cam Newton? 1? 2?

It's far too early to compare those 2 coaches. As far as I'm concerned, Chizik has 2 years as a head coach. I don't count his ISU years because it's impossible to win there and he took over such a horrible spot due to McCarney leaving him nothing.

What you just don't understand is that MANY other teams do a better job than Iowa in the clutch with FAR LESS TALENT and playmakers than Iowa. Why? Well, their offensive lines don't forget how to block late in games. We had 4 straight sacks in the 2 minute drill against Arizona. Are you fucking kidding me with that shit? 4 sacks? Really??? Wanna guess when the ONLY sack came against Wisconsin? That's right.......2 minute drill.

You think Auburn is the only team winning close games? What playmakers does Minnesota have, Mace? Cuz they just walked down the field at will in their game winning drive. Northwestern is able to recruit more clutch playmakers than Iowa or Iowa just doesn't coach a 2-minute drill as well as Northwestern? Which one is it, Mace? It's one or the other. So answer that question.........We can't outrecruit Northwestern because our coaches are HORRIBLE recruits OR our coaches can't coach the 2-minute drill and it has nothing to do with recruiting??? Which one??????

Since 2005, this is what Iowa has had on offense:

-The all-time leading receiver in school history
-Clinton Solomon and Ed Hinkel
-Shonn Greene
-A 3 year starting QB that is going to be a 3rd or 4th round draft pick (maybe even 2nd)
-A solid 6'4 receiving Marvin McNutt (future NFL player)
-Tony Moeaki (very good rookie tight end)
-Solid offensive lines in most years
-Albert Young (on an NFL roster)
-Drew Tate (playing in the CFL)

Since 2005, Iowa has the WORST record in games decided by 5 points or less in the COUNTRY.

Your explanation for these FACTS, Mace???

We lost the NW game because Dan Persa is a playmaker and probably the best QB in the conference. Iowa had sacks in the game you mentioned because they didn't pick up the blitz....OL and RB....and Stanzi didn't get the pass off.

Mace wrote:We lost the NW game because Dan Persa is a playmaker and probably the best QB in the conference. Iowa had sacks in the game you mentioned because they didn't pick up the blitz....OL and RB....and Stanzi didn't get the pass off.

But why is it that the OL can block any other time in the game but the 2-minute drill? This was an issue in the Wisconsin, Arizona, Northwestern, and Ohio State games. All game long, Stanzi has all day to throw but at the end........they can't block.

Is it just a coincidence???

TheJON wrote:Since 2005, this is what Iowa has had on offense:

-The all-time leading receiver in school history
-Clinton Solomon and Ed Hinkel
-Shonn Greene
-A 3 year starting QB that is going to be a 3rd or 4th round draft pick (maybe even 2nd)
-A solid 6'4 receiving Marvin McNutt (future NFL player)
-Tony Moeaki (very good rookie tight end)
-Solid offensive lines in most years
-Albert Young (on an NFL roster)
-Drew Tate (playing in the CFL)

Since 2005, Iowa has the WORST record in games decided by 5 points or less in the COUNTRY.

Your explanation for these FACTS, Mace???

So what's your fucking point? Do you think Iowa's opponents don't have NFL talent on their teams too? Of the players you listed, Moeaki and Green are the only two impact players in the NFL....hardly a glowing endorsement for Iowa's NFL talent laden teams but, according to jonsense, it must be so. :roll:

TheJON wrote:

Mace wrote:We lost the NW game because Dan Persa is a playmaker and probably the best QB in the conference. Iowa had sacks in the game you mentioned because they didn't pick up the blitz....OL and RB....and Stanzi didn't get the pass off.

But why is it that the OL can block any other time in the game but the 2-minute drill? This was an issue in the Wisconsin, Arizona, Northwestern, and Ohio State games. All game long, Stanzi has all day to throw but at the end........they can't block.

Is it just a coincidence???

It's got very little to do with the "2 minute drill" and is more about the failure to pick up the blitz.....as I said in my previous post. It also has something to do with Stanzi's lack of mobility and eating the ball instead of throwing it away. If your opponent sends more people on a blitz than you have bodies to block them, the blitz usually accomplishes its purpose....especially when you have a QB that is not very mobile. I'm sure that, as an all-american intramural QB, you realize that a QB can check off a play when they see the blitz is coming. Apparently we're not very good at that either.

Do you think Iowa's opponents don't have NFL talent on their teams too?

Northwestern, Minnesota, and Indiana do not and have not the past decade. Yet, all 3 of those schools have had multiple years against Ferentz in which they came through in the clutch against Iowa. Guess how many times we pulled out a late win against either of those teams under Ferentz? ZERO.

Moeaki and Green are the only two impact players in the NFL....hardly a glowing endorsement for Iowa's NFL talent laden teams but, according to jonsense, it must be so.

But we have 2 future NFL WR's, a future NFL TE, and a future NFL quarterback on our current roster. So what is this years excuse?

Plus, guys like Hinkel, Solomon, Scott Chandler, and Drew Tate all had playmaking ability. They all just, for some odd reason, sucked dick in the 2-minute drill. Amazing. Simply amazing. I just can't figure out why that is!! Hmm.......

I just want to throw in a rack for Mace and his picture pages of JON.

KC Scott wrote:

Mace wrote:
That said, I think Wisconsin, tOSU, and Sparty would match up well against anyone in the XII, so 4-1 might be a little much to expect.

Sounds like Wisky vs. TCU in the Rose Bowl

FUCK! The one Big East school we'd have a shot at losing to.

TheJON wrote:[But we have 2 future NFL WR's, a future NFL TE, and a future NFL quarterback on our current roster. So what is this years excuse?

DJK will have an opportunity to be a decent NFL receiver, but nothing special. McNutt? Maybe. Reisner can block and has decent hands, so he'll do okay, but he's no Dallas Clark or Tony Moeaki. We've got a much more talented TE waiting in the wings, and you know it. Stanzi is an efficient QB but will not set the NFL on fire. IF he makes a roster, he'll be holding a clipboard for a few years and then he'll have to go out and find a job.

I'm not the one making excuses, dumbass, and have admitted that we don't really have big time, game breaking talent. It's you coming up with all of the bullshit excuses and blaming the coaches because we have "all of this NFL talent" and "they can't run a 2 minute offense". Give it a rest, douchebag, because you don't have a fucking clue....and you prove it with every post.

'Spray,

Iowa seems to have problems getting up for games against the weaker teams in the conference and, after losing a close one to tOSU, seemed to have folded their tent like they had nothing to play for since they were knocked out of the conference race. They made a very bad Minnesota team look good. Minnesota played a good game and totally outplayed Iowa in all aspects of the game. JON will tell you it's all about the poor 2 minute offense but the team has struggled on 3rd down conversions and leaves the defense on the field far too long to be successful.

Mace wrote:'Spray,

Iowa seems to have problems getting up for games against the weaker teams in the conference and, after losing a close one to tOSU, seemed to have folded their tent like they had nothing to play for since they were knocked out of the conference race. They made a very bad Minnesota team look good. Minnesota played a good game and totally outplayed Iowa in all aspects of the game. JON will tell you it's all about the poor 2 minute offense but the team has struggled on 3rd down conversions and leaves the defense on the field far too long to be successful.

Not true. We lost that game because of no effort. In fact, it was almost comical how fitting that big pass play that Castillo gave up was. Or should I say GAVE UP ON.....

Honestly, that play was the most embarrassing play I have ever seen. I don't care that he's inexperienced and probably has little talent..........he literally just stood there and watched the receiver catch a HORRIBLE throw. All he had to do was stick his hand out or something and the WR is not making the catch. Heck, it would have been a better idea to just take the receiver out instead of standing there like a fucking retard and looking at the ball. That pretty much summed up the effort this team gave last Saturday. If I were the coach, I would have 86'ed his scholarship because of that play. Someone like that doesn't deserve a scholarship.

After the heartbreaking loss to Ohio State, I don't think there are many coaches (if any at all) that would have had their team up for this game. Minnesota had nothing to lose and played loose. Iowa didn't really have a ton to lose, but it would have been nice to see them play for a little pride.

Anyways, I'm not going to argue this anymore. I love Kirk Ferentz and I am getting tired of ripping on him. But I will always call a spade a spade. And what I see is one of the best coaches in the country that has some flaws that need to be corrected if we are ever going to take advantage of the rare opportunities we have (such as this year) where we can legitimately stake a claim to be a Rose Bowl or even national title contender. These years don't come along very often, as you know. 1997, 2005, 1985, 1988, and 2010 are really the only years in my lifetime where we have had major expectations and only 1985 did we actually capitalize on most of those expectations. After this year we are going to go back to being a program that only has medium level expectations for the next couple of years and that is where we are comfortable.

In fact, here's a stat that should give you some optimism for next year:

Since 2002 when Ferentz got the program rolling, we have been a preseason Top 15 team 3 times (2005, 2006, 2010). Our records?

7-5
6-7
7-5

How about the records in years where we weren't a Top 15 preseason team?

11-2
10-3
10-2
6-6
9-4
11-2

We do very well when we are ranked between 20-25 (which is where we will be preseason next year). We will still have some expectations next year, but nothing like this year. There are a lot of starters back too, plus Vandenberg is more talented than Stanzi- though he doesn't have his experience. In fact, I would say Vandenberg has the most raw talent any Iowa QB has had since Chuck Long. McNutt and Keenan Davis are back. 4 offensive line starters back. Brad Herman showed potential at TE and we have recruited that position exceptionally well the last 2 years. All of our RB's will be back........and maybe Wegher?? Wishful thinking, but it would be nice to have him back. I can't see the defense being any worse than this year even with less overall talent. The linebacking corps will improve with experience/health. Sash is back and so are all of the corners. The D-line loses 3 starters, but none of those guys (Clayborn included) did ANYTHING this year. I can't remember a unit that has EVER regressed like those guys have. 20 tackles for loss for Clayborn in 2009........7 in 2010? What. The. Fuck? And how many times this year did we even hear Christian Ballard's name? Our best lineman was actually Daniels. He and Binns will be back. Got to find a kicker, though. Special teams may keep us out of Big-10 title contention. I could definitely see this team being special teams away from the Rose Bowl.

You will never see a better 7-5 team than 2010 Iowa. I know that sounds silly, but it's true. This team could have just as easily been 12-0. That's the sad thing. The only game we didn't have a lead with less than 3 minutes left to play was the Arizona game and that's because of a missed PAT. I would venture to guess no team has EVER lost more than 4 games in a year where that happened.

Sometimes teams gotta have some luck (Sin, 2010 Auburn), and I've got a feeling Iowa didn't get much.

Luck and making plays are 2 different things. Good teams make their own luck (Auburn). Other teams don't (Iowa). You have to make plays in crunch time. Iowa did not. Auburn did. This is why Auburn is 12-0 and Iowa is 7-5.

If I had to guess, I'd say the Gopher game was just about kids being frustrated and not giving much of a fuck...

I think a lot of it had as much to do with Minnesota just plain wanting it more than Iowa. This was their season. 1 game. It was their bowl game. For whatever reason, it seems Minnesota gives us more problems when they don't go to a bowl than when they do. They had nothing to lose, and really came out fired up. College football is so much about emotion and Iowa usually cannot match the intensity of a team that is really fired up and puts a lot of focus on that 1 game. We have got to start doing a better job at that. If you look at our losses.....take a look at who they were against......

Bret Bielema (former Hawkeye football player/coach), Mike Stoops (former Hawkeye football player/coach), Pat Fitzgerald (hates Iowa- his RB even said so prior to the game. He played for Gary Barnett. Barnett and Fry hated each other. Plus, Iowa ended his football career by busting out his knee back in 1996), Minnesota (rivalry game, and basically their bowl game). Ohio State (well, they're Ohio State, so anyone can lose to them).

It is what it is. Dan McCarney beat us 5 years in a row when he was at ISU. He was a former Hawkeye player/coach. You have to be able to match your opponents intensity sometimes. We struggle at that and have been for many years. In games where emotions don't play a major factor, we are a tough out. But when they are, we have a hard time finding a way to win. That's got to change or there will never be a national championship contender in Iowa City. And before people laugh off Iowa ever contending for a title- we have been pretty damn close a couple of times in the last 8 years already. Plus, 1985 we were close and kinda sorta have a national title in the 1950's. So it's not impossible. But it won't happen until we quit fucking around with teams like Indiana and Northwestern.

I’d say the one big thing the Badgers had going for them this year was senior leadership. Could be what was lacking at Iowa. Bielema has said that this team realized they had something special in the locker room after the MSU game. And this is the first team that is all Bielema recruits. Get used to the taste of hind teat, Iowa.

I won't waste my time responding to everything in your posts, but will just make a couple of points to dispute your jonsense.

Adrian Clayborn had a poor season statistically but was still a force on the field and probably played harder this season than last just because he had to fight through double teams and blocking schemes designed to slow him down all season. His numbers were down in part to being double teamed all season but also because teams didn't run at him nearly as often this year...and for good reason. I see that the coaches voted him 1st team all-american, so, despite your vast knowledge of the game and ability to assess talent on the field, the coaches, who know nothing, think he's deserving. He will be Iowa's only first round pick and have the best NFL career.....despite his so called bad season. :roll:...because the NFL scouts don't know as much as you either. His story is similar to someone else I know who played DE and had a great junior season, and was named 1st team All-American. His numbers were down in his senior year, for the same reasons as Clayborn's, but he was named 1st team All-American for the second time. He signed with the Dolphins and played special teams on the undefeated '72 team and, thereafter, became a starting DE and played in a few Super Bowls with Miami's No-Name Defense.

Pat Fitzgerald didn't suffer a "career ending knee injury against Iowa in 1996". He broke his leg in the Iowa game in '95 (Northwestern's Rose Bowl season) and returned the next season. He probably hates Iowa because he didn't get to play in the Rose Bowl for what was probably Northwestern's greatest team ever.

Goober McTuber wrote:I’d say the one big thing the Badgers had going for them this year was senior leadership. Could be what was lacking at Iowa. Bielema has said that this team realized they had something special in the locker room after the MSU game. And this is the first team that is all Bielema recruits. Get used to the taste of hind teat, Iowa.

Senior leadership? I'm sure that's true but it might also has something to do with the Mack trucks on the offensive line. :) Wisconsin has a very good team and I hope they play Stanford in the Rose Bowl because I think that would be a hell of a fun game to watch. Iowa won't be sucking hind tit for long, Goobs, so enjoy being on top while it last.

Pretty sure we're getting TCU. One of the other bowls (Orange or Fiesta) is getting stuck with Stanford.

Adrian Clayborn had a poor season statistically but was still a force on the field and probably played harder this season than last just because he had to fight through double teams and blocking schemes designed to slow him down all season.

Are you really this stupid? I'm serious man. You're joking with this bullshit, right? You're just trying to bait me into an argument with that, correct? I'm going to go ahead and believe that you are just fucking around with that comment. I mean, nobody could possibly be that stupid. Yeah, you're fucking around.

I see that the coaches voted him 1st team all-american, so, despite your vast knowledge of the game and ability to assess talent on the field, the coaches, who know nothing, think he's deserving. He will be Iowa's only first round pick and have the best NFL career.....despite his so called bad season.

Never mind. This shit is too easy. You have the entire Hawkeye nation (or anyone that actually watched Iowa play) laughing at what a complete fucking DOLT you are! Oh man.......wow.

because the NFL scouts don't know as much as you either.

What the fuck are you talking about? I was high on Clayborn 3 years ago. I knew he would be a star. I think he will be a late 1st rounder (would have been a Top 10 pick if not for his mediocre season) and is going to have a solid NFL career. I am unsure if he will be a star, but he does have the potential.

Oh yeah, by the way......

Adrian Clayborn is still on his knees on the sidelines sucking air.........

Okay, now I'm convinced you don't even watch Iowa football. Why do you call yourself an Iowa fan when you don't even watch the games?

Nice job using the All-Big-10 team as your reasoning, like that shit means much. I suppose Derek Jeter really isn't a horrible defensive shortstop because he won a Gold Glove, right?

Prater was a 1st team all-big-10 selection too and he was absolutely PITIFUL at corner this year. Teams picked on him (and Hyde) like crazy. He made a couple of the worst defensive plays I have EVER seen too this year. Reiff is the only player on Iowa that deserved 1st team (maybe DJK). There are a few that are worthy of 2nd team selection (Vandervelde, Ferentz, possibly McNutt, Hunter, Reisner, Donahue). All-conference and All-American teams are based a lot on preseason hype. Take last year as an example.......until the last couple of games, Bulaga was very mediocre yet he won Big-10 offensive lineman of the year. Shit, he even missed a couple games. Don't get me wrong, Bulaga is a great talent. But he was a lot better in 2008 than 2009. It was completely undeserving and based solely on his preseason reputation.

The bullshit excuse for Clayborn being double teamed is a load of crap. Indiana was blocking him with RUNNING BACKS. Watch the gamefilm. He couldn't fight off a block all year long. Yes, he did face double teams..........EARLY IN THE SEASON. If you actually knew football and paid attention you would notice that the 2nd half of the season teams mostly quit doing that because he wasn't making plays. Minnesota double teamed him maybe 2-3 times all game and he still made no plays. Go watch the Northwestern game and tell me how many double teams he faced? 2? 3? Maybe. That's not an excuse anyways. He was out of shape and it showed. How many times did he have to go over to the sidelines to get a breather in a big spot? How many times do you think Julius Peppers, Dwight Freeney, or other great defensive ends aren't sucking it up and getting their ass onto the field on the biggest drive of a game?

And even if Clayborn was being double teamed all the time (he wasn't, you just don't know football), where the fuck was Klug, Binns and Ballard? Let me guess......they were double teamed too? They had 8 offensive linemen on every play, right??

Do you wanna know what really happened, Mace?

"We lost our will to win".- Adrian Clayborn, post Minnesota.

After the Wisconsin game he called out his defense saying something along the lines of they aren't giving effort in practice and it's showing up in the games. Clayborn needed to do a better job of being a senior leader, if that is true. If our defense in 2004 wasn't practicing hard, what the fuck do you think Matt Roth would have done? He would have fucked them up.

Go ahead and think what you want about Clayborn's play, but I got news for you.........after the season is over, you will see the NFL scouts ripping him a new asshole for his play this year. They will break down his play and you will hear a shit ton of criticism for his lack of fighting off blocks and being in shape. They'll still love his potential. How can you not? Just watch. I will bet you any amount of money I am right on this. You name the amount, I will take the bet. $500? $1,000? $5,000? Put your money where your mouth is or shut your fucking mouth, asshole.

Your dumbfuckery continues.

Nice melt, btw.

Jonsense says: "That Clayborn kid looks like he's not even trying out there."

Jonsense says: "That Clayborn kid looks like he's not even trying out there."

Not trying out there? Oh, no I never said that at all. He was on the sidelines grasping for air in the 4th quarter.

I never questioned his effort on the football field. I just want to know why he spent half of the 4th quarter every close game on the sidelines down on his knees trying to catch his breath. He probably wasn't in as good of shape as he was last year.

By the way, Mitch King would like to have a word with you on playing the defensive line......

See, the difference between Miotch and Clayborn is he didn't make excuses. He just went out, made plays and raised hell. His senior year he was doubled, he was held, he had all kinds of cheap shots by offensive linemen being taken at him. Doesn't matter. He still made plays. Clayborn didn't. Ballard didn't. Klug didn't. Binns didn't. None of them. I don't have a stat in front of me but I'm guessing they combined for maybe 9 sacks all year? Maybe a dozen at most.

20.5 tackles for loss last year.
7 this year.

You think double teams is the reason for that? Really????? I would believe that, maybe, if the other guys were making plays. But they weren't. Just saw Ballard is listed as the 46th best prospect in the upcoming draft. So we have a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder on the defensive line, yet nobody on the line was able to make a play all year? Again, were teams running 8 offensive linemen at us!!???

One way to negate a pass rush and avoid sacks is to dink and dunk the ball down the field and run a no huddle offense to wear down the defense while they're rushing the passer 40-45 times a game. It also helps to have a QB like Persa who can add another dimension to the offense by running the ball and being quick enough to avoid the rush, unlike Stanzi. Tell me you knew, oh Guru of the Gridiron. :roll:

There's much more for you to learn, Grasshopper, but I fear there is not enough time.

Mace wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:I’d say the one big thing the Badgers had going for them this year was senior leadership. Could be what was lacking at Iowa. Bielema has said that this team realized they had something special in the locker room after the MSU game. And this is the first team that is all Bielema recruits. Get used to the taste of hind teat, Iowa.

Senior leadership? I'm sure that's true but it might also has something to do with the Mack trucks on the offensive line. :)

I understand we had 6 offensive linemen make All Big 10 1st team, 2nd team or Honorable Mention. That has to be a first. 18 players named overall, including 3 running backs. Good God, how did we lose to MSU?

Goober McTuber wrote:Good God, how did we lose to MSU?

You played a team with their starting qb.

Mace wrote:One way to negate a pass rush and avoid sacks is to dink and dunk the ball down the field and run a no huddle offense to wear down the defense while they're rushing the passer 40-45 times a game. It also helps to have a QB like Persa who can add another dimension to the offense by running the ball and being quick enough to avoid the rush, unlike Stanzi. Tell me you knew, oh Guru of the Gridiron. :roll:

There's much more for you to learn, Grasshopper, but I fear there is not enough time.

Oh wow, thanks for the football lesson Mace. Gee, I had no idea that short passes can negate a pass rush.

Damn, dude, why didn't I take that into consideration before? Man, now i take back everything I said about Clayborn. He was unbelievable this year.

You got anymore football lessons for me, smart guy?

I understand we had 6 offensive linemen make All Big 10 1st team, 2nd team or Honorable Mention. That has to be a first. 18 players named overall, including 3 running backs. Good God, how did we lose to MSU?

Iowa had 3 or 4 on 1st team All-Big-10 in 2002, and I believe 2 more on 2nd team or honorable mention. I think 2010 Wisconsin and 2002 Iowa are probably the 2 best offensive lines the Big-10 has ever had......maybe even in college football.

TheJON wrote:

Mace wrote:One way to negate a pass rush and avoid sacks is to dink and dunk the ball down the field and run a no huddle offense to wear down the defense while they're rushing the passer 40-45 times a game. It also helps to have a QB like Persa who can add another dimension to the offense by running the ball and being quick enough to avoid the rush, unlike Stanzi. Tell me you knew, oh Guru of the Gridiron. :roll:

There's much more for you to learn, Grasshopper, but I fear there is not enough time.

Oh wow, thanks for the football lesson Mace. Gee, I had no idea that short passes can negate a pass rush.

Damn, dude, why didn't I take that into consideration before? Man, now i take back everything I said about Clayborn. He was unbelievable this year.

You didn't consider it because you're a stupid piece of shit who cited the Northwestern game as an example of Clayborn's lack of production. I know it's Marcus Allenish but, in your case, it seems to be necessary.

You got anymore football lessons for me, smart guy?

As I said previously, there's just not enough time to get you up to speed, douchebag. The best lesson you could learn is to just shut the fuck up and stay out of 90% of the threads where you feel compelled to drop your bullshit. Of course you won't do that because you actually believe that your jonsense adds something to every conversation. It doesn't.

Goober McTuber wrote:I understand we had 6 offensive linemen make All Big 10 1st team, 2nd team or Honorable Mention. That has to be a first. 18 players named overall, including 3 running backs. Good God, how did we lose to MSU?

That's not surprising. When you go 11-1, your team should have a shitload of all-conference selections. Didn't your 3 RBs all score 13 TDs...or more? Wisky had a great season and I think their O-Line was the most impressive part of the team.

Mace wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:I understand we had 6 offensive linemen make All Big 10 1st team, 2nd team or Honorable Mention.

That's not surprising.

There's only 5 starting positions. I think it's beyond surprising.

You didn't consider it because you're a stupid piece of shit who cited the Northwestern game as an example of Clayborn's lack of production. I know it's Marcus Allenish but, in your case, it seems to be necessary.

I did CONSIDER it moron......I was being a smartass. I made it OBVIOUS I wasn't being serious, genius. I cited the Northwestern game as being a part of Clayborn's lack of production because the fat fuck was on the sidelines grasping for air the entire 4th quarter instead of on the field. Shows how much out of shape he was. I can tell you that this will be unacceptable at the next level. Dwight Freeney isn't down on his knees on the sidelines on the opponents potential game winning drive. Quit being a little girl and get your pussy ass out on the football field. That's all I'm saying.

Let's see here.......

Teams that ran short, controlled passing games against us......

Northwestern, Indiana, Arizona, Iowa State.

Games Clayborn made plays in........

Spring game???

Number of games Iowa played this year....

12

Do you see why your excuse for his lack of production is completely retarded? No.....no you don't. Who the fuck am I kidding? Of course you don't.

You really do suck at this, you know. At least you're no longer writing a novel for every post, so you're making progress. The less jonsense contained in a post, the better.