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Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:45 pm
by TheJON
OCmike wrote:Dude, if I want to play the "I didn't say those exact words, even though i suggested or inferred exactly what you say"-game, i'll call the XOL.

And solid job outing yourself as either a bald-faced liar or complete dumbfuck. The only account you should ever have $10,000 in is in a bank or with a broker.
I never said a single thing that would even hint that I felt that online poker is for losers.

You got a quote or do you just wanna keep lying?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:53 pm
by TheJON
And solid job outing yourself as either a bald-faced liar or complete dumbfuck. The only account you should ever have $10,000 in is in a bank or with a broker.
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. There are TONS of poker players with hundreds of thousands.......some million......in their online poker accounts. My neighbor has probably $300k in his account. But he does it for a living. I haven't got anywhere near that kinda money in my poker account. When I get above $20k, I usually start withdrawing weekly $1,000 checks until I am back under $20k. I try not to ever let it go above that for the simple reason that you just never know if the US government will get bored and start snooping around looking to rob us of our money.

It's actually pretty common for people to have a lot in their accounts. How can you play at a high level if you don't?

You should ALWAYS have 20x the buy-in for a cash game and 30x the buy-in for a sit n go/tournament. It's poor bankroll management not to.

So let's say you play $20-$40 NL hold 'em. The minimum buy-in for that game would be $1,000 probably. 20 x $1,000 = $20,000. But really you should have double that at least to play at that level because you should never buy in short stacked. If the min buy-in is $1,000, you shouldn't be buying in for less than $2,000. So really, $40k should be in your account if you want to play that game.

And there's MUCH higher limits than that. I enjoy watching the $1,000-$2,000/PLO game on FTP. Min buy-in is $50k. People will sit at the table with hundreds of thousands of dollars. You need to have at least a couple million in your account.

Now, before you go trying to teach me some investing lesson......

You can invest all you want with a broker, but my online poker investment started with $5,000 and my profits have, let's just say, FAR exceeded that amount. So go find me a broker that can guarantee me that kind of a return on investment and I will sign up today.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:12 pm
by Goober McTuber
TheJON wrote:
And solid job outing yourself as either a bald-faced liar or complete dumbfuck. The only account you should ever have $10,000 in is in a bank or with a broker.
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. There are TONS of poker players with hundreds of thousands.......some million......in their online poker accounts. My neighbor has probably $300k in his account. But he does it for a living. I haven't got anywhere near that kinda money in my poker account. When I get above $20k, I usually start withdrawing weekly $1,000 checks until I am back under $20k. I try not to ever let it go above that for the simple reason that you just never know if the US government will get bored and start snooping around looking to rob us of our money.

It's actually pretty common for people to have a lot in their accounts. How can you play at a high level if you don't?

You should ALWAYS have 20x the buy-in for a cash game and 30x the buy-in for a sit n go/tournament. It's poor bankroll management not to.

So let's say you play $20-$40 NL hold 'em. The minimum buy-in for that game would be $1,000 probably. 20 x $1,000 = $20,000. But really you should have double that at least to play at that level because you should never buy in short stacked. If the min buy-in is $1,000, you shouldn't be buying in for less than $2,000. So really, $40k should be in your account if you want to play that game.

And there's MUCH higher limits than that. I enjoy watching the $1,000-$2,000/PLO game on FTP. Min buy-in is $50k. People will sit at the table with hundreds of thousands of dollars. You need to have at least a couple million in your account.

Now, before you go trying to teach me some investing lesson......

You can invest all you want with a broker, but my online poker investment started with $5,000 and my profits have, let's just say, FAR exceeded that amount. So go find me a broker that can guarantee me that kind of a return on investment and I will sign up today.
OK, I'll go with bald-faced liar.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:15 pm
by TheJON
OK, I'll go with bald-faced liar.
Ok, I'm done with your childish act. You're blocked. Have a nice life reject.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:24 pm
by Carson
Ooooooooooooooooh...blocked by the noj. :shock:

If only I could be so lucky.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:56 pm
by TheJON
Carson wrote:Ooooooooooooooooh...blocked by the noj. :shock:

If only I could be so lucky.
No problem, see ya big tough guy.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:57 pm
by Slasher
Carson wrote:Ooooooooooooooooh... If only I could be so lucky.
Thats what your gonna sound like when the reindeer pull an anal gang rape on you

Cupid might even tattoo some tits on your back while your enjoying the rides.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:08 pm
by OCmike
So Jon, what do you think will happen to your $20,000 residing in an internet account based somewhere in Bolivia, if FullTilt makes some bad investments or otherwise decides to close up shop? Ask the losers with $20k in their BetUS.com accounts how that went for them.

Or better yet, what is your recourse if they make an accounting fuckup and bump your decimal point a few spots to the left and now you've got $20 in your account? After all, you're illegally conducting overseas financial transactions, right? Which is why anyone with $20+k in an offshore illegal gambling account is a complete dumbfuck.

And no, I'm not going to get into a semantics bickering match with you about what or how or which way you meant this or that. I'm sure there's a local knitting circle in your neighborhood that would gladly accomodate that sort of riveting exchange though.

Lastly, on a serious note, get help. A guy with $1k in a gambling account has a big gambling problem. A guy with $20k...

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:13 pm
by Mace
Luther and I have $20k in our bingo account. Is that a problem too?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:15 pm
by mvscal
OCmike wrote: A guy with $1k in a gambling account has a big gambling problem. A guy with $20k...
...is lying his ass off in a particularly pathetic attempt to impress anonymous internet "chums" who in reality wouldn't cross the street to piss on him if he was on fire.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:22 pm
by Derron
Goober McTuber wrote:
TheJON wrote:
And solid job outing yourself as either a bald-faced liar or complete dumbfuck. The only account you should ever have $10,000 in is in a bank or with a broker.
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. There are TONS of poker players with hundreds of thousands.......some million......in their online poker accounts. My neighbor has probably $300k in his account. But he does it for a living. I haven't got anywhere near that kinda money in my poker account. When I get above $20k, I usually start withdrawing weekly $1,000 checks until I am back under $20k. I try not to ever let it go above that for the simple reason that you just never know if the US government will get bored and start snooping around looking to rob us of our money.

It's actually pretty common for people to have a lot in their accounts. How can you play at a high level if you don't?

You should ALWAYS have 20x the buy-in for a cash game and 30x the buy-in for a sit n go/tournament. It's poor bankroll management not to.

So let's say you play $20-$40 NL hold 'em. The minimum buy-in for that game would be $1,000 probably. 20 x $1,000 = $20,000. But really you should have double that at least to play at that level because you should never buy in short stacked. If the min buy-in is $1,000, you shouldn't be buying in for less than $2,000. So really, $40k should be in your account if you want to play that game.

And there's MUCH higher limits than that. I enjoy watching the $1,000-$2,000/PLO game on FTP. Min buy-in is $50k. People will sit at the table with hundreds of thousands of dollars. You need to have at least a couple million in your account.

Now, before you go trying to teach me some investing lesson......

You can invest all you want with a broker, but my online poker investment started with $5,000 and my profits have, let's just say, FAR exceeded that amount. So go find me a broker that can guarantee me that kind of a return on investment and I will sign up today.
OK, I'll go with bald-faced liar.
Damn it Goobs your being nice again..what the fuck is your problem ? Dude gave you 2 very good options and you roll with the bald face liar versus the dumbfuck choice...pretty obvious he is both a cocksucking bald face liar and a dumb fuck...the length and bullshit content of his posts confirm that..

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:18 am
by Goober McTuber
mvscal wrote:
OCmike wrote: A guy with $1k in a gambling account has a big gambling problem. A guy with $20k...
...is lying his ass off in a particularly pathetic attempt to impress anonymous internet "chums" who in reality wouldn't cross the street to piss on him if he was on fire.
Exactly.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:40 am
by Dinsdale
OCmike wrote:The only account you should ever have $10,000 in is in a bank or with a broker.

I was 5 hands away from having $10,000 in my Full Tilt account.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:25 am
by TheJON
OCmike wrote:So Jon, what do you think will happen to your $20,000 residing in an internet account based somewhere in Bolivia, if FullTilt makes some bad investments or otherwise decides to close up shop? Ask the losers with $20k in their BetUS.com accounts how that went for them.

Or better yet, what is your recourse if they make an accounting fuckup and bump your decimal point a few spots to the left and now you've got $20 in your account? After all, you're illegally conducting overseas financial transactions, right? Which is why anyone with $20+k in an offshore illegal gambling account is a complete dumbfuck.

And no, I'm not going to get into a semantics bickering match with you about what or how or which way you meant this or that. I'm sure there's a local knitting circle in your neighborhood that would gladly accomodate that sort of riveting exchange though.

Lastly, on a serious note, get help. A guy with $1k in a gambling account has a big gambling problem. A guy with $20k...
Bro, I'm not gonna lie here.........you're very clueless.

You have never played poker or even heard of poker, I see?

$20k is not a lot of money, I got news for you. There are probably 5,000 players just on FTP that have MUCH more than I do in their accounts. And that doesn't include PokerStars and other sites.

Go over to FTP and see how many high limit games are going right now. I bet there's 500 people playing right now in games where they have more than $10k on the table.

Thanks for the advice. I'm glad someone that doesn't know me or anything about me has diagnosed me with a gambling problem. Yeah, you're right. I have a problem. I can't stop playing. I'm addicted to it. My wife and kids left me and now I'm stuck living under a bridge begging for food. :meds:

BetUS.com?? LOL? Who the fuck would ever play on that site? FTP isn't gonna go bust. Are you insane? They've been around for 10 years and make MILLIONS of dollars. A bad investment? What bad investment could they make? They're a god damn poker site (ditto PokerStars).

I got news for you.......there are probably 20,000 US Players with a shitload more money in their online poker accounts than me. I keep my limits at $20k. If you guys knew poker, you would know this is not a very large sum of cash.

http://www.pocketfives.com/rankings/

Check this out. Just since yesterday, there have been 15 players on FTP and PStars that have won OVER $10k......in a single tournament. Then check out the world rankings. The dude that is ranked 1,000 worldwide had a cash of $246,000 in 1 tournament.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/market-pul ... ney-makers

Here is a list of the Top 100 CASH GAME players over the last year. #100 profited $355,615. #1 made over $3.5 million.

It really amazes me how clueless you people are about poker. Millions of people play the game in this country and not 1 of you (besides, Dins) knows anything about the game? Do you guys live in some underground cave? Get with the times. Everyone plays poker. What's the big deal?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:25 am
by TheJON
Dinsdale wrote:
OCmike wrote:The only account you should ever have $10,000 in is in a bank or with a broker.

I was 5 hands away from having $10,000 in my Full Tilt account.
Well played. Well played. :D

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:40 am
by TheJON
Damn it Goobs your being nice again..what the fuck is your problem ? Dude gave you 2 very good options and you roll with the bald face liar versus the dumbfuck choice...pretty obvious he is both a cocksucking bald face liar and a dumb fuck...the length and bullshit content of his posts confirm that..
Derron,

How much money are you willing to bet on that? Seriously, you name a dollar amount and I will take the bet. See, the thing about online poker is this.........your stats are tracked online by a few 3rd party sites. I can prove to you my stats. So put up a dollar amount. $100? $500? $5,000? I will take your bet.

So what is it? You gonna keep making assumptions about someone you have never met and know nothing about or are you gonna man up put your money where your big mouth is? I will ship you funds through PayPal if I am unable to PROVE to you that my PokerStars account has not profited more than $20k (and this doesn't include my FTP account because I don't play on that site enough to actually make that much).

Name the amount and I will take your bet (I'm not going less than $75). If you're so damn sure, it will be like taking candy from a baby, right? So what do you have to lose? Free money, isn't it? Well, I got your money sitting in my PayPal account. I'm giving you a chance to come and get it.

I might be willing to bet someone else that he isn't man enough to take my bet. Any takers? I'll go my $100 against your $25 bucks (that's 4-1 odds) that Derron is going to stick to running his mouth behind an anonymous screen name instead of manning up and taking me up on this bet. Don't worry, Derron.......I'm not taking your personal info so no need to use that as an excuse. I'm fairly certain you can make a PayPal payment without seeing personal info (though, I could be wrong).

So what's it gonna be? Puss out and keep acting like a know-it-all or man-up and prove that you know me???

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:35 am
by M Club
88 wrote:A Poker Star who doesn't pay the IRS its graft soon find himself up the river getting his starfish pokered. Just sayin.
for the realz, jon...from des moines...graduated from iowa...worked at his dad's insurance agency...lives in that house where the mcdonald's delivery is always parked between 9.00 and 4.30...

the shrubber's probably driven his scooter past yours a time or two. what makes you think he won't go SWF on you by calling the irs?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:56 pm
by R-Jack
Trying to get someone to wager on the contents of his bank account? Yeah, no gambling problem here.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:09 pm
by TheJON
88 wrote:A Poker Star who doesn't pay the IRS its graft soon find himself up the river getting his starfish pokered. Just sayin.
I pay taxes on my poker winnings. I claim EVERYTHING. I do not cheat the government. Like I said, I am asking the government to take my freakin money. I will gladly pay whatever taxes they impose when they make online poker legal in the United States. Not once will you hear me complain about it. I will cut Uncle Sam a check by April 15th every year with a smile on my face. I might even put a "Thank You" note in the envelope.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:13 pm
by TheJON
R-Jack wrote:Trying to get someone to wager on the contents of his bank account? Yeah, no gambling problem here.
Obviously I'm a degenerate considering I never play anything BUT poker........and have accumulated approximately 2-3 hours of poker TOTAL over the last few months. Man, what a degenerate I am! Uhh......or it's a big hobby of mine.......like sports. I enjoy playing the game. What's wrong with that? Nobody that knows me has ever accused me of being an addict, but some anonymous internet folks that have never met me do? Yeah, sure man. I'm a real degenerate.

He ran his mouth and if you run your mouth you should be forced to back it up. This isn't a gambling thing. I don't care about the money. I just like to hold people accountable. If he's going to call me a liar.......then come find out if I am. If not, quit making assumptions about someone you don't know. Run your mouth and back it up.......or don't run your mouth. That's all I'm saying.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:51 pm
by Derron
TheJON wrote:
Derron,

How much money are you willing to bet on that? Seriously, you name a dollar amount and I will take the bet.
Bet on what..? That you are a bald faced liar or a dumbfuck ? No bet needed there..you have proved beyond anything you are both.
So what is it? You gonna keep making assumptions about someone you have never met and know nothing about or are you gonna man up put your money where your big mouth is?
Pretty much the case...Don't need to make assumptions..your constant blathering proves your a complete fucking idiot.
I will ship you funds through PayPal if I am unable to PROVE to you that my PokerStars account has not profited more than $20k
Little man screams gambling BODE !
Name the amount and I will take your bet (I'm not going less than $75). If you're so damn sure, it will be like taking candy from a baby, right? So what do you have to lose? Free money, isn't it? Well, I got your money sitting in my PayPal account. I'm giving you a chance to come and get it.
And I have your money hanging..suck it bitch...
I might be willing to bet someone else that he isn't man enough to take my bet. Any takers? I'll go my $100 against your $25 bucks (that's 4-1 odds) that Derron is going to stick to running his mouth behind an anonymous screen name instead of manning up and taking me up on this bet.
Pretty much how every one rolls on here..interesting you question a persons manhood based upon a gambling analogy...very insightful and the typical gambling addict tactic. You see.. I could give a fuck about gambling...
Don't worry, Derron.......I'm not taking your personal info so no need to use that as an excuse. I'm fairly certain you can make a PayPal payment without seeing personal info (though, I could be wrong).
Using Pay Pal to move ill gotten offshore gains around ?? Might have to ask Rack Fu if that constitutes wire fraud ? Stick to running your add's on craigslist..you know the ones where you offer to suck cock on a street corner for $ 5... :shock:
So what's it gonna be? Puss out and keep acting like a know-it-all or man-up and prove that you know me???
Oh..I know you bitch...you are a blowhard, baldface dumbfuck who is getting to be BORING ! :hfal:

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:58 pm
by TheJON
Oh..I know you bitch...you are a blowhard, baldface dumbfuck who is getting to be BORING !
Sincerely,

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Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:06 pm
by Atomic Punk
The reindeer have no fresh softballs to work with?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:17 pm
by TheJON
ery insightful and the typical gambling addict tactic. You see.. I could give a fuck about gambling..
Is it "gambling" if you have an edge? Honest question........

You never "gamble"? You have never started a business? Never invested in anything? You realize both of those are "gambles", right? Shit, I must really be a degenerate cuz I run a business AND play poker!

Poker is 2 things to me..............an enjoyable hobby and an investment that gives me the type of return that I could not get anywhere else other than running a business. I'm losing money on my stocks and making money with poker. Which would you consider a more wise investment for me?

You are too stupid to understand that people take gambles with their money everyday of their lives. But you hardcore conservatives are of the mindset that playing poker is different than those other gambles. But it really isn't........if you are a good player. Yes, if you suck at poker- you should only play in moderation. Don't get me wrong, these are the people that fund my retirement so I'm not exactly complaining about them. But if you are bad at poker, you should not use it as more than a hobby and should only play in moderation. If you try and play professionally when you suck (and MANY people do), it's pretty much like investing in VCR's in 2011. You will invest money and see no return.

I am completely against online games against the house. They are not games of skill, and that is where the real degenerates ship their money. You can't beat the casino. I have nothing against keeping it legal in casinos because the casinos take a shit ton of that money and put it to good use- charities, education system, etc. Plus, the social aspect of gambling in a casino can provide great entertainment for millions of people. I personally don't enjoy any games besides poker, but a lot of people do- and who am I to say they can't have fun?

Plain and simple........poker is a lot of fun and if you are skilled, you can make a lot of money from it. If you are not skilled, you will lose. That's really all there is to it. It is a TOUGH game. Playing poker for a living is a more difficult job than ANY of you guys have. The old poker saying of "it's a hard way to make an easy living" is dead on. I know you don't understand the game of poker or know anything about the poker community, but the money I have won playing poker is so far below what THOUSANDS of US players have made. You should watch High Stakes Poker on GSN. Those guys are making MILLIONS of dollars. I know people that make over $45k........per month, on average, playing online exclusively. Before you go calling them degenerates.......why would you NOT play if you were making that kind of money? How many jobs out there pay $45k a month? Don't get me wrong, many poker players ARE degenerates. I know people that actually win quite a bit at the poker tables and give it all back at the Craps table. That's just how some poker players are- they need the action constantly.

You can believe whatever you want, Derron. It's all good. You know nothing at all about me. For all you know I could be Warren Buffet or George Clooney. I gave you a shot to prove me wrong, but you declined. Suit yourself.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:35 pm
by mvscal
You sound like every addict from the beginning of time. You've hit all the junky angles trying to justify your addiction to yourself. I rarely speak for the entire board but nobody believes you and, beyond that, nobody cares.

So...who are you really trying convince here?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:40 pm
by TheJON
mvscal wrote:You sound like every addict from the beginning of time. You've hit all the junky angles trying to justify your addiction to yourself. I rarely speak for the entire board but nobody believes you and, beyond that, nobody cares.

So...who are you really trying convince here?
You're right. I need help. I lost my home, my car, my kids, my wives, my money, my dignity, the sheep I was fucking.......

Where can I get counseling, mvscal? I just want to get my life back in order. I've shamed my good name......my family's good name.

Oh, and could you teach me how to be a racist too, so I can be just like you? Thanks.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:40 pm
by R-Jack
Be careful mvscal, or he'll bet you wouldn't say that to his face.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:42 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
TheJON wrote:I don't care about the money. I just like to hold people accountable.
So go ahead and post the proof and prove everybody wrong.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:56 am
by Derron
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
TheJON wrote:I don't care about the money. I just like to hold people accountable.
So go ahead and post the proof and prove everybody wrong.
He will want want you to put up $ 75 and your Pay Pal account to prove to you what a tard he is. :lol: :lol:

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:01 am
by Derron
TheJON wrote:


You can believe whatever you want, Derron. It's all good. You know nothing at all about me. For all you know I could be Warren Buffet or George Clooney.
I know you are a complete fucking blathering idiot and for all you know, I could be Bill Fucking Gates right ?? That makes a lot of sense you fucking moron.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:40 am
by OCmike
TheJON wrote:$20k is not a lot of money, I got news for you. There are probably 5,000 players just on FTP that have MUCH more than I do in their accounts. And that doesn't include PokerStars and other sites.
I'm sure there are. Idiocy loves company.
BetUS.com?? LOL? Who the fuck would ever play on that site? FTP isn't gonna go bust. Are you insane? They've been around for 10 years and make MILLIONS of dollars. A bad investment? What bad investment could they make? They're a god damn poker site (ditto PokerStars).
My bad, it was betonsports.com. The ceo was caught in a US airport waiting for an international flight. He was ultimately charged with...violations of the Wire Wager Act, the Travel Act, the Illegal Gambling Business Act, the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), tax evasion and money laundering. What do you think will happen to your $20k that's in a numbered account at First International Palm Tree Savings and Loan in Grand Cayman when they nab the CEO of FTP? Lemme give you a hint...*poof*.

What do you think FTP, Pokerstars, every casino, bank and every other currency-based business does with their money? They make money with their money, dumbass. I'd like to think that the recent histories of the real estate and stock markets since 2006, as well as Worldcom, Enron and a host of others would give you the hint that investments (especially big ones) can and do lose money. So, since you're so sure that FTP is entirely financially-secure, I'm sure you won't mind listing where they currently have their hundreds of millions invested. Oh...wait...you have no fucking idea, do you. So you are allowing people that you don't know, to hold $20,000 of your money in a location you don't know, in a bank you don't know, and in an account that you can't access without their permission. You, sir, are weapons-grade stupid.
For all you know I could be Warren Buffet or George Clooney
Warren Buffett would never come off as this big of a blowhard dumbfuck and George Clooney is too busy long-dicking 25 y/o starlets to post here.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:39 pm
by Moving Sale
TheJON wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:
TheJON wrote:I am against legalizing other online gambling games.
So you're a commie pinko. Way to out yourself you Apple Pie raping fuckcusion.
The 'ol "he disagrees with me so he must be a commie" defense. Gotta love those.
No I called you a pinko because your stance is equivalent to the government control policies of the pinkos.

Got it fuckhead?

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:56 am
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
TheJON wrote:Ok, I'm done with your childish act. You're blocked. Have a nice life reject.


:facepalm:

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:49 am
by Trampis
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/08/ ... ine.poker/
Reid pushes online poker legislation but finds the deck stacked. CNNDecember 8, 2010 8:37 p.m. EST


Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada pushes legalizing online poker in some circumstances
A measure would legalize online poker basically only in Nevada and New Jersey
Reid has encountered strenuous opposition from Republicans
One opponent, Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, says the measure is dead
Washington (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, may have to fold his efforts to push a measure legalizing online poker in the United States into a tax-cut bill, in light of strenuous opposition from Republicans.

Such a provision would greatly benefit some of Reid's biggest campaign backers -- those in the gaming industry, which has been lobbying for the change.

But when Reid was asked Wednesday afternoon whether he was still pushing the poker bill during the congressional lame-duck session, he said, "We are still working on it," according to this office.

Democratic and Republican sources had told CNN Reid was pushing for the provision to be included in the bill to extend the Bush-era tax cuts.

One of those leading the opposition is Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Arizona, who vowed to block any attempt to include the poker legalization in the tax bill.

Wednesday afternoon Kyl told CNN the measure was dead, saying, "Senator Reid has agreed with me that it will not happen."

Reid's office refused CNN's request to discuss his push for the legalization.

The support by the four-term Nevada Democrat, who won re-election in November, for the online poker measure is an apparent reversal. When Congress addressed online betting in 2006, Reid opposed its legalization.

Some House Republicans also bristled at news Reid was attempting to shoehorn the Nevada-friendly legislation into the tax deal.

"Creating a federal right to gamble that has never existed in our country's history and imposing an unprecedented new tax regime on such activity require careful deliberation, not back-room deals or earmarks for special interests," Republican Reps. Spencer Bachus of the Financial Services Committee; Dave Camp of the Ways and Means Committee and Lamar Smith of the Judiciary Committee wrote last week to Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Between 2005-2010 Reid's campaign and his leadership political action committee received $224,450 from MGM Resorts and $113,450 from Harrah's Entertainment, making them some of his largest contributors, according to the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks the influence of money in politics. MGM and Harrah's did not respond to requests for comment.

"It sure looks like payback," a Republican congressional official told CNN.

According to a draft of the proposed measure obtained by CNN, large, established gambling companies would be the biggest winners if the legislation passed.

It would legalize online poker basically only in Nevada and New Jersey. The draft bill says that online poker could be offered only by businesses that have 500 or more slot machines in the same building. That includes huge casinos in Nevada and New Jersey and would make ineligible most Indian-land casinos and even long-standing poker places throughout California because they don't have slot machines.

Seventy percent of the revenues from a new internet gambling trust fund would go to the states sponsoring the poker, presumably Nevada and New Jersey. Only 30% would go to any of the other states where the person playing is based.

Also the proposal includes new rules that would make it easier to bet on horse races. Republican congressional officials suspect that is an attempt to entice support from the senator from the biggest horse-racing state, Kentucky -- Mitch McConnell.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:43 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
TheJON wrote:FTP isn't gonna go bust. Are you insane?
I hope you had a chance to cash out that $20k. :lol:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_c ... y-fbi.html

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:59 pm
by Dinsdale
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/04/three-largest-online-poker-sites-indicted-and-shut-down-by-fbi.html wrote:By Friday afternoon Full Tilt Poker’s site displayed a message explaining that “this domain name has been seized by the F.B.I. pursuant to an Arrest Warrant.”


Pretty nice job they did with the fact-checking.


I'm playing there right now.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:11 am
by mvscal
Dinsdale wrote:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/04/three-largest-online-poker-sites-indicted-and-shut-down-by-fbi.html wrote:By Friday afternoon Full Tilt Poker’s site displayed a message explaining that “this domain name has been seized by the F.B.I. pursuant to an Arrest Warrant.”


Pretty nice job they did with the fact-checking.


I'm playing there right now.
Fulltiltpoker.net is a play money site
and does not offer Real Money games

:?:

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:18 am
by Dinsdale
mvscal wrote:
Fulltiltpoker.net is a play money site
and does not offer Real Money games

:?:

That's been their advertising ruse, anyway.

That button that says "Download Now" installs the one-and-only FTP client, which allows both play-chip games and real-money play.

I think that has to do with some sort of advertising restrictions that don't rock the boat of their legal end-around.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:32 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
WOTS is the plug will be pulled on all 3 sites within 48 hours. Cash out your beer and hooker money while you still can.

Re: Fuck the US government

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:36 am
by mvscal
Noj should be OK, though. I'm sure he's already made enough scratch to retire.