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Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:08 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Their 4-2-5 defense is designed to shut down all of the spread offenses they face in the Big Sky Conference.

All... zero of them they faced?

Well, that was the explanation I read in the paper. I don't watch ~~a lot~~ any of that conference's games, so I'll leave it to you to list each team and what offensive scheme they run.

Or are you just continuing your hair-pulling contest with Mace about what constitutes a spread offense.

If you've nothing better to do, you might want to revisit the thread where you explained how stupid the KC Chief bettors were in relation to the spread.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:12 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:
Mace wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Way to represent, Sparty. If the Badgers put on a similar show, I will go out and kick the neighbor's dog. Fuck.
Goober McVick says what?

If TCU can shut down your run game, and I don' think they can, we will see a similar result. I don't expect that to happen.
Their 4-2-5 defense is designed to shut down all of the spread offenses they face in the Big Sky Conference. We should be able to run the ball all day long. Should.

If TCU hasn't game planned to stop the run, they are doomed. If that's the case, Bielema won't even call a pass play until he's up 60-0.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:21 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:Yes. If you don't believe me, just ask the BCS.

It's ok to think for yourself, you know. The eye test tells any reasonable human being Bama has better players. We're talking about the defending champs that lost 3 very close games vs much better competition.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:28 pm**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Yes. If you don't believe me, just ask the BCS.
It's ok to think for yourself, you know. The eye test tells any reasonable human being Bama has better players. We're talking about the defending champs that lost 3 very close games vs much better competition.

The eye test tells me you're looking for an excuse for getting your ass hammered. They lost 3 games. You could have beat them.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:29 pm**

Mace wrote:If TCU hasn't game planned to stop the run, they are doomed. If that's the case, Bielema won't even call a pass play until he's up 60-0.

It does take a while to set up the play action.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:31 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:The eye test tells me you're looking for an excuse for getting your ass hammered.

That may be.

But it doesn't mean I'm wrong. Seriously, what in the fuck has TCU ever won? I'll be waiting.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:35 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:
Mace wrote:If TCU hasn't game planned to stop the run, they are doomed. If that's the case, Bielema won't even call a pass play until he's up 60-0.
It does take a while to set up the play action.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:35 pm**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:The eye test tells me you're looking for an excuse for getting your ass hammered.
That may be.

But it doesn't mean I'm wrong. Seriously, what in the fuck has TCU ever won? I'll be waiting.

I sincerely hope you are still waiting at the end of the day. TCU's motivation concerns me, the ability to win the big game against a big BCS opponent. But this seems to be a different Bielema team. Hopefully they wind up losing only one game this year they should have won.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:36 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:Well, that was the explanation I read in the paper.

Sounds like a pretty knowledgeable reporter you have there.

I don't watch ~~a lot~~ any of that conference's games, so I'll leave it to you to list each team and what offensive scheme they run.

I catch a few, since Versus has some sort of deal with the MWC.

There's a few different offensive styles in the MWC, but a couple stand out...

Utah plays a wide-open spread.

New Mexico and UNLV play a much more classic style of offense, which is traditionally described as "nonexistent."

Or are you just continuing your hair-pulling contest with Mace about what constitutes a spread offense.

No hair pulling contest -- we were pretty well in agreement, in principle -- it was mvscal who had no idea what he was talking about.

Regardless of any of that -- if TCU doesn't stack the box against Wisky, with its true Big Time Motherfucking Power Run Game, it's gonna be a looooong day for them.

But then again, if Wisky doesn't bring it on D, TCU can ring you up before you even realize what just happened.

Good matchup between some very different offenses -- I like it. Would have rather seen Furd than TCU, but whatever.

Liking Wisky in this one. But don't underestimate TCU's defense, assuming they prepared properly.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:39 pm**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Seriously, what in the fuck has TCU ever won? I'll be waiting.

Uhm... every game they played this season?

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:49 pm**

Whoopty fucking doo. Stop playing dumb.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:17 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:There's a few different offensive styles in the MWC, but a couple stand out...

Utah plays a wide-open spread.

New Mexico and UNLV play a much more classic style of offense, which is traditionally described as "nonexistent."

I thought zero of their opponents played a spread? So far you've admitted that one does. What about the rest of the conference? Come on, go ahead and clown "the pretty knowledgeable reporter."

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:18 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:Liking Wisky in this one.

Which BTW -- YAFJ ain't got nothing on my Kiss-Of-Death in the Pick'Em the last few days.

I'm going to have to start doing better before I officially "stink."

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:22 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:I thought zero of their opponents played a spread? So far you've admitted that one does. What about the rest of the conference? Come on, go ahead and clown "the pretty knowledgeable reporter."

I'm not exactly sure who I'm clowning here -- you, or the reporter.

But for your edification -- TCU doesn't play in the Big Sky with Montana, Montana St., Portland State, Northern Arizona, et al, nor have they ever been a member.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:27 pm**

Props to Sam and 'Bama. Tide definitely rolled today. I'll be honest, I switched to the Outback Bowl when it got to be 28-0, to see if JoePa can pull one out. Sparty had a great season and I feel MGO's pain and disappointment. We've all been there.....several times this year for Hawkeye fans.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:32 pm**

Losing a hard-fought bowl is one thing...

Getting your ass handed to you in grandiose fashion is a whole nother.

Sucks for us no-dog-in-the-fight folks too (although my rooting interest was team ABSEC -- Anyone BUT) -- sucks for the losing teams fans, and sucks for everyone who ain't a Tide fan (although I can hear the SEC!SEC! chants whistling through southern teeth all the way on the other corner of the country).

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:36 pm**

You know what pisses me off more than anything?

I decided to Whitey it up today and go the cheap, shit beer route. Thinking I'd be hammering beers all day. I'm like 8 beers deep and barely feel a tingle.

Fuck you KC pussies and your weak, shitass beer. Fucking pussies, the lot of you. Back to real man's beer after this shit.

FUCK

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:41 pm**

Once the conference games start, I loves me some SEC football. Once the bowls start, I generally root for disease, famine, and global nuclear warfare before I root for a SEC team...

although hypothetically, if an SEC team was playing UDub, I'd probably be doing the SEC!SEC! chant.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:04 pm**

HUH?

While I know you cousinfucks think you invented rivalries, Oregon and UDub have been going at it quite a bit longer than Auburn/Bama.

I'd cut off my left foot before I did anything but hate on UDub.

You ever had an Bama coach dance on the logo of your field after they beat you in your house?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Just because SEC rivals hate each other, don't use that good'ol southern logic to think that implies that the same thing doesn't go on elsewhere.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:28 pm**

FUKK KAL.

I'd love to have a chance to root against 'em in a bowl game, but it's even better that they're not playing.

That's all I have to say.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:30 pm**

Cal wrapped up the National Championship early this year and didn't have to play in a bowl game.

Sin,

m2

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:37 pm**

Mace wrote:Cal wrapped up the National Championship early this year

Incorrect statement... they won like 4 MNCs this season.

I mean, they beat... somebody, who almost beat somebody... who in turn beat somebody, giving them their 14th consecutive MNC.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:41 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Mace wrote:Cal wrapped up the National Championship early this year
Incorrect statement... they won like 4 MNCs this season.

I mean, they beat... somebody, who almost beat somebody... who in turn beat somebody, giving them their 14th consecutive MNC.

I think they were within 1 or 3 plays of going unbeaten.

Not sure how that works when you lose 7, but we're talking about Cal here.

Posted: **Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:55 pm**

Papa Willie wrote:Dude - if any coach did that in the Iron Bowl, I'd say that he would only have a 5% chance of making it out of the stadium without getting a hole in his head. I'm not kidding, either.

Oh, dude...

I think it's been discussed here before, and you've seen enough Oregon games... the fans "rush the field" after every game, because it's a bitch to get out of Autzen (no tunnels to the concourse -- only way out is climb all the way up).

The cops were all over Weasel, or he would have been dead.

BTW -- except on gameday, you won't EVER see anyone (me included) wearing Ducks gear in Seattle, and you won't ever see anyone wearing Fusky gear in Portland or Eugene -- it's a health hazard. Moreso in Seattle, since those filthy people really seem to enjoy fighting, but Fusky gear in Portland is unwise as well.

Posted: **Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:59 am**

Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I thought zero of their opponents played a spread? So far you've admitted that one does. What about the rest of the conference? Come on, go ahead and clown "the pretty knowledgeable reporter."
I'm not exactly sure who I'm clowning here -- you, or the reporter.

But for your edification -- TCU doesn't play in the Big Sky with Montana, Montana St., Portland State, Northern Arizona, et al, nor have they ever been a member.

Good God. I didn't think the Big Sky was even still in existence. The Big Sky Reference was a fucking joke because I couldn't immediately remember the name of the conference TCU played in. But you replied nonetheless talking about teams that are still in the MWC with TCU (Utah, New Mexico and UNLV), so obviously you felt that you were right in your off the cuff assertion that TCU doesn't play teams that run the spread. So tell me, which teams that TCU plays do run the spread and which don't?

Posted: **Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 am**

Goober McTuber wrote:So tell me, which teams that TCU plays do run the spread and which don't?

I said I watch the MWC, never said I watch it religiously. A few good teams every year, and a whole buncha crap.

Utah is primarily a spread team. Outside of them, I'm hard pressed to think of another spread team. Mostly seems like more pro-style stuff from what I've seen.

Posted: **Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:39 am**

Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:So tell me, which teams that TCU plays do run the spread and which don't?

I said I watch the MWC, never said I watch it religiously. A few good teams every year, and a whole buncha crap.

Utah is primarily a spread team. Outside of them, I'm hard pressed to think of another spread team. Mostly seems like more pro-style stuff from what I've seen.

From what I see in a brief google search, Wyoming, Utah State and Air Force all utilize spread offenses. Wisky played UNLV this year and I know they played a spread last year but I can't remember what I saw this year other than a victory that was much closer than it should have been. Sounds to me like like another Dinsdale ~~shot from the hip~~ misfire. Thanks for playing.

Posted: **Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:46 pm**

IndyFrisco wrote:

Give it a bowl cut and that is a lady that works at my company. Scary.

Give it a crew cut and it's a dude i worked with when i was in the navy.

Give it a shoulder length cut and part it on the side and it's a poor sap i work with currently.

Posted: **Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:50 pm**

War Wagon wrote:Christ, puts some (i)tags(i) on this thread already.

I was ogling Sams' bitches for a bit and then remembered I was at work. :doh:

this thread needs tags for sure, but I was thinkin' (G) tags.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:55 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2011/a ... gan-state/

Comments from MSU fans during the game.

Seriously, if you didn't turn away from the game due to boredom (which I can't even begin to imagine!) you have to wonder how the hell this bunch lost three games. Injuries on the O-line, the young secondary, and Julio's injuries contributed, but I have to say coaching is involved. Too much talent there to lose ANY games.

Nice to see Alabama fan return to planet earth this year. Auburn fan is next.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:09 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: Nice to see Alabama fan return to planet earth this year. Auburn fan is next.
Did you watch the entire MSU-Bama game, Goobs?

Do I impress you as some kind of masochist? No. And I’m not sure what that has to do with my point, anyway.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:15 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:

Ouch.

What really pisses me off is MSU got beatdown to a team that can't even fukkin tee up a football.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:40 pm**

I quit sometime around the 4th quarter to watch the UF/PSU game, but switched back during commercials to see the backup qb (Maxwell) take some snaps. And then he got hurt.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:42 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:What are people up your way saying about the game? I mean...are they in shock? Pissed? What's being said?

A lot of people saw a whoopin comin, just didn't think it would be that bad. People are onto basketball now.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:55 pm**

Bama had enough practice teeing it up, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:44 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Too much talent there to lose ANY games.

Don't get too excited about beating a really slow team that racked up W's against a bunch of really slow teams.

So far, this bowl season has shown that the B11 is stuck in the past -- a buncha big corn-fed-STUDS trying to slam it up the middle. And every now and then, it works against a faster team (sup 2010 Rose Bowl), but not on a consistant basis. The rest of the country is slowly figuring out how to neutralize the B11 big-time-power game with the speed game. The shift has been slow, but is becoming more pronounced every year.

The game is changing -- the old-school B11 powers aren't.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:58 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:The shift has been slow, but is becoming more pronounced every year.

Right. It was a whole 1 year ago when the B10 went 2-0 in BCS bowls, and had a solid showing all the way around. [toolio]Even looked good in their losses, fwiw[/toolio].

Conference play in bowl games will continue to be cyclical on a yearly basis. It isn't about scheme so much as preparation and execution. Anything can happen in these individual match ups.

Posted: **Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:09 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Sudden Sam wrote:Too much talent there to lose ANY games.

Don't get too excited about beating a really slow team that racked up W's against a bunch of really slow teams.

So far, this bowl season has shown that the B11 is stuck in the past -- a buncha big corn-fed-STUDS trying to slam it up the middle. And every now and then, it works against a faster team (sup 2010 Rose Bowl), but not on a consistant basis. The rest of the country is slowly figuring out how to neutralize the B11 big-time-power game with the speed game. The shift has been slow, but is becoming more pronounced every year.

The game is changing -- the old-school B11 powers aren't.

That's as ridiculous as your claim a few years ago that Boise State was "undersized". Think whatever you want but the NFL, for some unknown reason, keeps drafting those slow players from the Big 10 and they become stars. Maybe they just get faster when they put on an NFL uniform. :roll: The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me, buy a fucking stopwatch because your eyeball test only proves you need glasses.

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:43 am**

Mace wrote:The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me... check out which conferences have two-way football/track&field stars

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:44 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Mace wrote:The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me... check out which conferences have two-way football/track&field stars

Oregon has linemen and LBs who are 100 meter champions? I had no idea. :roll:

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