Re: U Michigan jet in Baton Rouge
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:21 pm
Well, yeah, but I'm talking about people that Michigan actually wants to hire.Terry in Crapchester wrote:They'll still wind up with Hoke, most likely.
Well, yeah, but I'm talking about people that Michigan actually wants to hire.Terry in Crapchester wrote:They'll still wind up with Hoke, most likely.
Third choice, or fourth? Pat Fitzgerald also told them he wasn't interested.Terry in Crapchester wrote:They'll still wind up with Hoke, most likely. San Diego may be a nicer place to live than Ann Arbor, but the SDSU job isn't even in the same stratosphere as the Michigan job.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:So now two "michigan men" have turned down the job. Bwaa. Damn.
I think Hoke takes it, and swallows his pride over being third choice.
Degenerate wrote:If Hoke turns it down, Brandon will have to keep running through his list of "Michigan Men"
David Allan Grier
Dave Coulier
Gerald Ford
Ted Kaczynksi
Andrew Shirvell (little in-state humor there for you)
The Sklar Brothers
Ponderous indeed, Ter...Terry in Crapchester wrote:While we're on the topic... MizzouFan, of all people, has been all but begging any program in the market for a new coach that will listen to take a much better coach, Gary Pinkel, off his program's hands. Ponderous, that.
that whole fourth-choice shit is overblown considering every coaching search works their way that far down their list of candidates, as if it actually matters aside from making fun of the fanbase who has to endure that search. (really, there's enough michigan football to make fun of as it is now that you don't have to go reaching for straws.) tressel was ohio state's 92nd choice, saban was bama's something or other choice, stoops was probably, i don't know, third or fourth? as far as this particular search went, can't really blame harbaugh for taking an nfl job and maintaining residence in the same house. can't blame old azz miles either for choosing not to give up one of the premier jobs in cfb to spend his golden years trying to make the michigan job one again. plus, according to brandon, hoke was actually our first choice. never actually offered the jobs to the other two.King Crimson wrote:UM better hope so....Hoke might find himself with a nice bargaining position because at some point UM is going to be REALLY desperate....being turned down in public twice is already a blow to the program. After Hoke, then what? you are in Bill Callahan-to-Nebraska territory. At minimum, kiss off this recruiting class and waiting on RichRod's buyout has put UM way behind the hiring cycle/coaching carousel.Terry in Crapchester wrote: I think Hoke takes it, and swallows his pride over being third choice.
Gary Barnett!
dickrod had a pretty good class shaping up, including the #1 all-purpose back in the country. of course he de-commited and will play for saban for a year or two before he himself is cut to make room for the 45 guys that dick signs every year.TheJON wrote: So, what the fuck was Michigan doing keeping DickRod until after the bowl game? Their incoming recruiting class is nothing special. Fire the guy after the Ohio State game so that you can get a coach in there to start recruiting for next year.
i don't think you understand much about the team dynamics in cfb. the bowl game is the last time many of them will ever play football. they take their bowl games pretty seriously, especially at michigan where they hadn't played in one for two years. plenty of interviews about how hard it was to sit at home during bowl season knowing they were the suck. your apathy doesn't reflect the team's attitude.Who gives 2 shits about bowl games? Half the teams don't even give a fuck. They don't mean anything. If you win them- awesome. If not- the success of your season didn't change much. 8-5 or 7-6........what the fuck is the difference?? I know, tards........8-5 has a higher winning percentage. Shut the fuck up, I know this.
big names don't mean much considering we probably got the biggest name out there the last time around. considering how shite the big east is, dickrod probably would have played for an mnc or two had he stuck around wvu.But here's what I just don't get. Michigan is now seen of as some 2nd-tier program and couldn't land a big name coach.
i agree with you that a prior relationship to the program doesn't guarantee success, but the whole dickrod thing proved that michigan is willing to cannibalize itself over a coach the right people aren't happy with. ja, it's michigan blah blah blah, but it doesn't help recruiting when players in the nfl go on monday night football to say they played for "lloyd carr's university of michigan." former players openly mocked dickrod. that resonates. now we have the flip, where tom brady and lamarr woodley are all gaga over fatboy. we have some decent talent and a favorable schedule next year, so just wait for the elephant walk when we go 8-4.There's absolutely NO correlation between success at a program and ties that coach had to the program prior to being hired. And anyone that tries to dispute that is a god damn fucking retard.
I haven't seen Adel around here lately, but I seem to recall him trying to get rid of Pinkel more recently than that. Not so much in the "Fire Gary Pinkel, NOW" mode as in the "So-and-so is looking for a new coach? Take Gary Pinkel off our hands, please" mode.Truman wrote:Ponderous indeed, Ter...Terry in Crapchester wrote:While we're on the topic... MizzouFan, of all people, has been all but begging any program in the market for a new coach that will listen to take a much better coach, Gary Pinkel, off his program's hands. Ponderous, that.
Saw where the firegarypinkel.com domain was deleted last July, and the two Facebook fan pages that bear a variation of the same name have less than 75 “friends” between them.
I can't speak for Bace's side of the state, but lot's of folks in these parts were fairly concerned when the Udub job opened up and conventional wisdom suggested that the Huskies might try to call Pinkel "home". Unless you’re referring to the odd post by a few disgruntled trolls on the Mizzou homer boards, I haven’t heard of a serious call for Pinkel’s dismissal since the beginning of the 2007 season.
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aside from my caveat that i have no idea how this hire will turn out, i'm not excited about hoke because his primary qualification for this job seems to be nepotism. even us yankees have our good ol' boy networks. brandon promised a national search and then went into his office to call three of his three best friends to see if they wanted the job. shit, he didn't even bother with the token black interview. fine, but this could have been done six weeks ago when we had a shot at landing more than 10 recruits.Sudden Sam wrote: What about Hoke do you not like? Who would you prefer UM to have hired?
By the way, I am available. And I will have linemen who can run and block.
While we're on the subject, Pete Carroll was about USC's 598th choice, and probably never would've been hired in the first place had he not approached Mike Garrett about the job first.M Club wrote:that whole fourth-choice shit is overblown considering every coaching search works their way that far down their list of candidates, as if it actually matters aside from making fun of the fanbase who has to endure that search. (really, there's enough michigan football to make fun of as it is now that you don't have to go reaching for straws.) tressel was ohio state's 92nd choice, saban was bama's something or other choice, stoops was probably, i don't know, third or fourth? as far as this particular search went, can't really blame harbaugh for taking an nfl job and maintaining residence in the same house. can't blame old azz miles either for choosing not to give up one of the premier jobs in cfb to spend his golden years trying to make the michigan job one again. plus, according to brandon, hoke was actually our first choice. never actually offered the jobs to the other two.King Crimson wrote:UM better hope so....Hoke might find himself with a nice bargaining position because at some point UM is going to be REALLY desperate....being turned down in public twice is already a blow to the program. After Hoke, then what? you are in Bill Callahan-to-Nebraska territory. At minimum, kiss off this recruiting class and waiting on RichRod's buyout has put UM way behind the hiring cycle/coaching carousel.Terry in Crapchester wrote: I think Hoke takes it, and swallows his pride over being third choice.
Gary Barnett!![]()
who knows how this hire will work out. my initial reaction was to find a building taller than the one i live in and jump from the top, but maybe he'll turn into chiznik or something, though i don't see that happening considering we might as well have hired sudden sam instead since he and hoke feel the same about a lineman's ability to multitask (he can run AND block at the same time????? that's so pussified!).
but aside from how this hire turns out years from now, the process of hiring him was an absolute fucking joke. brandon laid out a bunch of bullshit criteria, hired a search firm, and waited till the middle of january to hire some fat guy he could have had coaching the ohio state game if he wanted. i can only imagine how pompous michigan comes off to other fans if its own are complaining about their obsession with themselves. dumbfuck should have just stood at the lectern when this thing started and said he believes only someone associated with the michigan family can coach michigan football even though our two greatest leaps forward came from outsiders (yost and bo).
and really, fuck bo for coining "michigan man." and fuck hoke/sam for the five-second look he's going to give denard before running him out as a corner. and rack denard for the finger he's going to give hoke/sam on his way out.
Since he went to the 49ers, and I've been a 49er fan since the Montana years, I hope it works out. That having been said, I don't think it was in any way a no-brainer that he was NFL-bound. Steve Spurrier played "real" football as well -- how'd that NFL coaching stint work out for him? I'm somewhat surprised that college and NFL coaches jump between the ranks as often as they do. Imho, the coaching differences are so stark that they might as well be different sports, at least from a coaching perspective.TheJON wrote:First off, Harbaugh was never going to Michigan. Everyone with half a brain KNEW he was NFL bound. His brother coaches real football, he played real football, he runs a real football style of play, so what makes anyone think that guy is going to go coach the college game even if it's at his alma mater??
But here's what I just don't get. Michigan is now seen of as some 2nd-tier program and couldn't land a big name coach. It doesn't make sense. What the fuck did Alabama have a few years back when they got Nick the Dick that Michigan doesn't have now? Michigan has been down for 3 god damn years. They are the fucking winningest program ever and have more (fairweather) fans than any program in the country. Notre Dame has been down since WWII or something like that
George O'Leary was a big name before he got to ND? Coulda fooled me. My one-word reaction to his hire, back at the time: "Who??????"and they can land guys like George O'Leary, Brian Kelly, and Charlie Weis. Hell, even Ty Willingham was a bigger name than Brady Hoke.
But Frank Beckmann is in LOVE with Dave Brandon! He walks on water! How DARE you talk that way about Dave Brandon!M Club wrote:but aside from how this hire turns out years from now, the process of hiring him was an absolute fucking joke. brandon laid out a bunch of bullshit criteria, hired a search firm, and waited till the middle of january to hire some fat guy he could have had coaching the ohio state game if he wanted. i can only imagine how pompous michigan comes off to other fans if its own are complaining about their obsession with themselves. dumbfuck should have just stood at the lectern when this thing started and said he believes only someone associated with the michigan family can coach michigan football even though our two greatest leaps forward came from outsiders (yost and bo).
Terry in Crapchester wrote: Since he went to the 49ers, and I've been a 49er fan since the Montana years
ND won two national championships in the 70's. As I've mentioned before, I'm a child of the 70's, and since most kids attach themselves to winners, that had a little something to do with me becoming a ND fan.
Terry trolls as Frank Rizzo in real life.Goober McTuber wrote: No, most of us attached ourselves to our “local” teams, winners or not. You are obviously a front-running little band-wagonner. You are probably also a Yankee fan and either a Laker or Celtic fan.
Rack you, Screwball, for honestly and proudly repping a bunch of losers.Screw_Michigan wrote:Terry trolls as Frank Rizzo in real life.Goober McTuber wrote: No, most of us attached ourselves to our “local” teams, winners or not. You are obviously a front-running little band-wagonner. You are probably also a Yankee fan and either a Laker or Celtic fan.
I don't have a "local" college football team, unless you count Syracuse, which is a basketball school. Notre Dame is a national Catholic school, and I attended Catholic schools as a kid. Ya think maybe there are a few ND fans in the employ of Catholic schools?Goober McTuber wrote:Terry in Crapchester wrote: Since he went to the 49ers, and I've been a 49er fan since the Montana years
ND won two national championships in the 70's. As I've mentioned before, I'm a child of the 70's, and since most kids attach themselves to winners, that had a little something to do with me becoming a ND fan.
No, most of us attached ourselves to our “local” teams, winners or not.
The Yankees are my "local" team. Tell me you knew. I live closer to Toronto, technically, but that's in a different country, and I was already 12 by the time the Blue Jays came into existence.You are obviously a front-running little band-wagonner. You are probably also a Yankee fan and either a Laker or Celtic fan.
Nah, I spell better and drink less than he does. Besides, Rizzo's a Florida State fan.Screw_Michigan wrote:Terry trolls as Frank Rizzo in real life.
He stole a can of salmon.Sudden Sam wrote:What about Hoke do you not like?
ND is always 1 year away from winning the MNC, so it's not worth jumping off the bandwagon.TheJON wrote:If Terry was a band-wagonner, do you really think he would still be rooting for Notre Dame?