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Goober McTuber wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:
For example, even with Walker's victory, Obama is still expected to win the state, so the "drama queen" probably will be celebrating in November.

Jsc810 wrote:Today is the recall election, it appears to be a close race.

Jsc810 wrote:The polls were accurate in showing the Walker victory.

But when they show an Obama victory, they're wrong. Oh, ok.

Governor Walker's Victory Spells Doom For Public Sector Unions


Public sector unions have reached their high water mark. Let the cleanup begin as the red ink recedes.

Despite a last-minute smear campaign accusing Scott Walker of fathering an illegitimate love child, the governor’s recall election victory sends a clear message that should resonate around the nation: The fiscal cancer devouring state budgets has a cure, and he has found it. The costly defeat for the entrenched union interests that tried to oust Walker in retribution for challenging their power was marked by President Obama’s refusal to lend his weight to the campaign for fear of being stained by defeat. We’ll see how well this strategy of opportunistic detachment serves in the fall as Obama reaches out to unions for support.

This fight is not without precedent. Progressive patron saint Franklin Delano Roosevelt—who more than any other president set our country on a course away from the founding principles of limited government—knew that public sector unions would be the death of the social welfare state he worked so hard to create. Hence, he consistently opposed allowing government employees to unionize. Today, Greece sets the example of what happens when public sector unions gain the upper hand.

In 1959 Wisconsin became the first state to allow collective bargaining by government employees. The projected cost of supporting Baby Boomer union retirees now threatens to bankrupt the state, as it does many others. Scott Walker ran for office promising change. The fiscal medicine he is administering may be bitter, but it looks like it is starting to work. The state budget has been balanced. The unemployment rate has been dropping and is now below the national average. Property taxes are down. Fraudulent sick leave policies—which allowed employees to call in sick and then work the next shift for overtime pay—have been ended. The government has stopped forcibly collecting union dues from workers’ paychecks.

Best of all, the myth that union bosses represent their members’ interests has been exposed as a lie. Now that union dues are voluntary, tens of thousands of union members have stopped paying them. Membership in the Wisconsin chapter of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union (AFSCME) has dropped by half. Membership in the state’s American Federation of Teachers (AFT) is down by over a third. Given unions’ influential role in most elections, the national implications of this trend are staggering.

Walker’s message is clear: The key to bringing balance back to public sector labor relations and balance state budgets is to break the iron triangle of closed-shop mandatory unionization, compulsory dues collection, and oversized campaign donations to politicians that promise to do the unions’ bidding. If other governors take his cue and take up the cause, that giant sucking sound you hear will be the air coming out of union bosses’ bloated political action budgets.

The work in Wisconsin is not complete. The controversial law exempted police and firefighters, a political concession to get the legislation passed. Federal courts have zeroed in on this anomaly, striking down certain sections of the law because they do not treat workers equally. This needs to be repaired— by rescinding the exemption for public safety workers. With the recall election behind him, Walker may be sufficiently emboldened to do just that.

The power of private sector unions was long ago broken by many heavily unionized companies going bankrupt. While this was painful for both workers and shareholders, the economy motored on as nimbler non-union competitors picked up the slack. This approach is problematic for the public sector because bankrupt state and local governments cannot be replaced by competitors waiting in the wings. Yes, citizens can always vote with their feet, emptying out cities like Detroit, leaving the blighted wreckage behind. But isn’t Walker’s targeted fiscal retrenchment less painful than scorched-earth abandonment?

Chicago machine candidate Barack Obama rode into office to the tune of Hail to the Chief, promising the unions that backed him the gift of card check elections, ending the secret ballot that shields employees from union intimidation. He may well ride into retirement to the tune of On Wisconsin as the era of closed shop unionism comes to an end.

Goober McTuber wrote:The Democrats fucked up the whole process start to finish.

Goober McTuber wrote: BTW, the crybaby in the video is a 39-year-old stay-at-home dad. He also has a bit of a rap sheet. Everything from DUI to battery to sexual assault of a child. (The last one was plead down to 2nd degree sexual assault back when he was 19 years old – probably had a 16-year-old girlfriend.) The video would have been so much better if he had finished up with a “Leave Brittany alone”.

Derron wrote:When the average Joe voter gets tired of the public employee unions raping the taxpayer...

Jsc810 wrote:The polls were accurate in showing the Walker victory.

But when they show an Obama victory, they're wrong. Oh, ok.

Derron wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote: BTW, the crybaby in the video is a 39-year-old stay-at-home dad. He also has a bit of a rap sheet. Everything from DUI to battery to sexual assault of a child. (The last one was plead down to 2nd degree sexual assault back when he was 19 years old – probably had a 16-year-old girlfriend.) The video would have been so much better if he had finished up with a “Leave Brittany alone”.

I have to rack the normally liberal news media on this interview. They usually try to find the most "compelling" interview possible with the dumbest son of a bitch they can find, and they certainly succeeded there.

“Democracy’s dead,” bellowed Mike Daly, a 39-year-old stay-at-home dad as he barged into a live feed from the scene by CNN reporter Ted Rowlands.

Daly got his interview on CNN, then explained that he was distraught because his two daughters, 1 and 4, will never live in a society where corporations don’t run the show.

“For the first time in my life, I don’t want to live here anymore,” he said. “It’s all about the money now.”

Goober McTuber wrote:
According to the local news, CNN didn’t exactly solicit an interview:

“Democracy’s dead,” bellowed Mike Daly, a 39-year-old stay-at-home dad as he barged into a live feed from the scene by CNN reporter Ted Rowlands.

Daly got his interview on CNN, then explained that he was distraught because his two daughters, 1 and 4, will never live in a society where corporations don’t run the show.

Diego in Seattle wrote:I guess the voters really want to see how lob-sided the socio-economic makeup of this country can become before it goes tits-up.

Jsc810 wrote:The polls were accurate in showing the Walker victory.

But when they show an Obama victory, they're wrong. Oh, ok.

We'll see in November. :)

mvscal wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:The polls were accurate in showing the Walker victory.

But when they show an Obama victory, they're wrong. Oh, ok.

We'll see in November. :)

The polls showed it would be a close race. It wasn't. It was an across the board Republican sweep and in a blue state. That doesn't bode well for Bathhouse Barry. Wisconsin is definitely in play.

mvscal wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:The polls were accurate in showing the Walker victory.

But when they show an Obama victory, they're wrong. Oh, ok.

We'll see in November. :)

The polls showed it would be a close race. It wasn't. It was an across the board Republican sweep and in a blue state. That doesn't bode well for Bathhouse Barry. Wisconsin is definitely in play.

Jsc810 wrote:

mvscal wrote:It was an across the board Republican sweep

No, it wasn't. The Democrats now have a majority in the Senate.

Goober McTuber wrote: I’ve told him that twice already.

Sirfindafold wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote: I’ve told him that twice already.

How many times did you assure us that walker would be recalled?

You're a fuckin' jerkoff.

88 wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:

mvscal wrote:It was an across the board Republican sweep

No, it wasn't. The Democrats now have a majority in the Senate.

Too bad the Wisconsin senate is not scheduled to meet again until after the November elections in which 16 of the seats are up for grabs. But if they do decide to schedule a vote on something between now and then...

http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/re ... s/sjr1.pdf

Goober McTuber wrote:Some people think that this is not significant because the legislature is not back in session until after the November elections. But if the Republicans had maintained the majority in both houses, Scooter could have called them back to an emergency session and rammed through some more regressive legislation.

mvscal wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:Some people think that this is not significant because the legislature is not back in session until after the November elections. But if the Republicans had maintained the majority in both houses, Scooter could have called them back to an emergency session and rammed through some more regressive legislation.

If that was the plan, don't you think he would have called them back into session before the recall elections?

Nice try, Corky.

Left Seater wrote:Again, show me a poll on Nov 1st.

Further, if you have ever seen or been asked on an exit poll you know how unreliable they are. Most exit polling is done in the early morning so the media and idealist leaning groups on both sides can point to it during the election day. The idealist groups often ask the questions to those they think will support their position rather than taking "the next 100 voters to exit the polls."

Goober McTuber wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:The polls were accurate in showing the Walker victory.

But when they show an Obama victory, they're wrong. Oh, ok.

We'll see in November. :)

The polls showed it would be a close race. It wasn't. It was an across the board Republican sweep and in a blue state. That doesn't bode well for Bathhouse Barry. Wisconsin is definitely in play.

I think it was more recall election pushback than anything else. Wisconsin will go to Obama in November. And again, it was NOT a sweep. Democrats took control of the Senate.

Goober McTuber wrote:No, because that might have impacted his election.

Dinsdale wrote:

Diego in Seattle wrote:I guess the voters really want to see how lob-sided the socio-economic makeup of this country can become before it goes tits-up.

For all intensive purposes?

Is it just a roost?

Truman wrote: DiS had a tough enough night as it was.

mvscal wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:No, because that might have impacted his election.

What? Would labor goons hate him even more?

Cuda wrote:...iding away inside the closed garage

mvscal wrote:Oh, OK. So let's recap this here. Some people may or may not have voted for Walker based on some hypothetical "heavy handed" legislation that Walker has no demonstrated intention of passing? And that is your "silver lining"?



You got your cunt kicked in. Sit down, shut up and deal with it.

mvscal wrote:Oh, OK. So let's recap this here. Some people may or may not have voted for Walker based on some hypothetical "heavy handed" legislation that Walker has no demonstrated intention of passing? And that is your "silver lining"?

Sirfindafold wrote:A McGoober Melt.

Who didn't see that coming?