The Supreme Court has never ruled directly on the question of what is exactly meant by natural born citizen, so yeah, Wagon, the 'birthers' are not convinced that Barry (who's alleged father was admittedly not a citizen) is natural born, regardless of whether or not he was really born in Hawaii.
The same concerns (what natural born really means) apply to some republicans.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:29 am
by poptart
Here's hoping Mitt chooses C. Christie - because we need a whole lot
more of this kind of action.
A smack-runnin' VP.
:grin:
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:42 pm
by Goober McTuber
poptart wrote:Here's hoping Mitt chooses C. Christie - because we need a whole lot
more of this kind of action.
A smack-runnin' VP.
Or a FAT fucking RETARD? Either way, he'd fit in here.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:45 pm
by mvscal
poptart wrote:The Supreme Court has never ruled directly on the question of what is exactly meant by natural born citizen, so yeah, Wagon, the 'birthers' are not convinced that Barry (who's alleged father was admittedly not a citizen) is natural born, regardless of whether or not he was really born in Hawaii.
The same concerns (what natural born really means) apply to some republicans.
What "natural born really means" has been clearly and unequivocally established for centuries. It is common law. If Ofailure was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:04 pm
by Goober McTuber
So it has nothing to do with a Caesarean Section?
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:11 pm
by Sirfindafold
Goober McTuber wrote:So it has nothing to do with a Caesarean Section?
Further proof that McGoober is about as funny and entertaining as his pet rock.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:03 am
by poptart
mvscal wrote:What "natural born really means" has been clearly and unequivocally established for centuries. It is common law. If Ofailure was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen.
There are many in the legal field who vehemently contend the opposite.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:38 pm
by Goober McTuber
Sirfindafold wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:So it has nothing to do with a Caesarean Section?
Further proof that McGoober is about as funny and entertaining as his pet rock.
My bad. I forgot that Sirfuckafist wants to be entertained, too:
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:41 pm
by Diego in Seattle
I sure hope that Mittens picks either Christie (R-Olive Garden state) or Jindal (R-Mt. St. Helens). :D
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:17 pm
by Truman
Palin. Simply for the Board entertainment value.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:01 pm
by mvscal
poptart wrote:
mvscal wrote:What "natural born really means" has been clearly and unequivocally established for centuries. It is common law. If Ofailure was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen.
There are many in the legal field who vehemently contend the opposite.
There are many in the legal field who are totally full of shit. I will enter the lawyers here into evidence.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:00 pm
by Truman
mvscal wrote:There are many in the legal field who are totally full of shit. I will enter the lawyers here into evidence.
88 is nailz. The rest? Meh. They regularly get their asses handed to them by a buncha InterWeb jackasses that know case law and the Constitution better than they do.
So much for faith in American jurisprudence.
BTW, when is a mandate not a mandate? When it's a TAX! Brilliant. Try to keep up, shitstains...
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:36 am
by Dr_Phibes
But lawyers are advocates by nature, they make cases, rather than understand them. And if they did, they wouldn't tell you as it doesn't suit their interest. mv may be a crackpot, but he is a history student.
oh and happy independence day, you traitorous, terrorist pricks.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:57 am
by Truman
Let's hope. I'd love to see you drown yourself in a bayou out of self-righteous indignation.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:04 am
by mvscal
Dr_Phibes wrote:But lawyers are advocates by nature, they make cases, rather than understand them.
Actually, this is an important point. The danger is that they are also making regulations and policies rather than understanding them.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:39 pm
by Carson
They understand them completely.
More regulations and policies means more settlements from jackpot juries.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:42 pm
by Bizzarofelice
mvscal wrote: The danger is that they are also making regulations and policies rather than understanding them.
exactly. those who benefit should not be writing the policy.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:06 pm
by Cuda
Goober McTuber wrote:So it has nothing to do with a Caesarean Section?
No, it doesn't.
Also, Gobbles, when you were born with that coathanger hooked through your ear, that wasn't really a cæsarean either
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:18 pm
by Goober McTuber
Cuda wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:So it has nothing to do with a Caesarean Section?
No, it doesn't.
Also, Gobbles, when you were born with that coathanger hooked through your ear, that wasn't really a cæsarean either
I'm a survivor, baby.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:20 pm
by Truman
Goober McTuber wrote:
Cuda wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:So it has nothing to do with a Caesarean Section?
No, it doesn't.
Also, Gobbles, when you were born with that coathanger hooked through your ear, that wasn't really a cæsarean either
I'm a survivor, baby.
More like an artifact...
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:49 pm
by Rooster
Rubio won't be picked because of his previous financial problems. It goes contrary to the Republican narrative that the Romney/fill-in-the-blank ticket is savvy on steering the economy back on track and can create jobs. While he has many upsides, his financial history makes him toxic during the campaign.
However, to judge by Ann Romney's comments, it may be Kelly Whatshername from New Hampshire, although I wish it were Condi myself.
I have a feeling we will find out very soon. A Romney/Rice ticket? Could well be.
Reportedly, it's now down to either Pawlenty, Portman or Ryan.
Please, please, please let it be Ryan.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:31 pm
by Van
Jsc, it's one thing for you to be disillusioned with the current Republican party, so you're bailing on them. I get that. It's quite another to be so openly touting Obama now, as if he hasn't been a miserable failure as president.
In your mad scramble out the red door, try not to lose your mind.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:43 pm
by mvscal
Jsc810 wrote:Well now, what do we have here?
Another Ivy League Wall Street whore. Any other questions?
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:49 pm
by Left Seater
Excellent choice of articles to highlight the idiot in charge. So despite not being able to fix the economy or unemployment the market has rebounded. Sure seems to point to the fact he had zero to do with it.
Funny the market rebounded just like it always has despite the idiot in the White House.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:55 pm
by mvscal
There's nothing funny or odd or coincidental about it. Wall Street owns the idiots in the White House of course they're going to be seen to.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Barack Obama often gets slammed for his stewardship of the U.S. economy, but for stock investors, he's been one of the best presidents since World War Two.
At 1,400, the S&P 500 on Friday was closing in on a four-year high and was up 74 percent since January 20, 2009, the day Obama took office. Not since Dwight Eisenhower's first term has a president had such a strong run for their first term.
That rally might be just enough to get Obama re-elected, making him the first sitting president in the post-war era to win a second term with a jobless rate higher than 7.2 percent.
"Even though business and corporate sentiment is not good for Obama because they don't think he's been good for the economy, the fact that the market has done very well under him is a positive," said Ethan Siegal, head of The Washington Exchange, which analyzes politics for institutional investors.
Soon after taking office, the president even waded into the dangerous territory of stock market prognostication.
On March 3, 2009, Obama, responding to a question about a market that was plumbing 12-year lows, said: "What you're now seeing is profit and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where buying stocks is a potentially good deal, if you've got a long-term perspective on it."
The S&P 500 hit bottom a week later. Three years on, U.S. stocks have more than doubled, adding $6.8 trillion in market capitalization.
Can you even begin to believe this shit ?
Every point can be refuted or spun a different way.
Do you even have a clue how much money is sitting out of the market right now ? Fucking billions. My bro in law took about 1.7 M out of the market, bought a couple properties and banked the rest. Not going back in any time soon. Already meet his investment goals so fuck it.
Of course, you being an attorney and all, this talk about business and finance may as well be in Chinese for you.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:50 pm
by mvscal
KC Scott wrote: the ever so slightly improving job picture
What the fuck are you talking about? The unemployment rate went up last month.
Re: Romney's VP, call it
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:52 pm
by mvscal
Jsc810 wrote:
Van wrote:Jsc, it's one thing for you to be disillusioned with the current Republican party, so you're bailing on them. I get that. It's quite another to be so openly touting Obama now, as if he hasn't been a miserable failure as president.
