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Green Bay's population is five million? Sacramento has six million people?

It's all bullshit. Most any serious fan thinks of his team as 'we.' It doesn't matter whether it's a pro or college team. It's his team.

I said 10 times, not 100 times.

10 times 50-60,000 = 500-600,000.

Van wrote:Screwball never played for the Nats

Never realized the Washington Nationals issued undergraduate degrees.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I said 10 times, not 100 times.

10 times 50-60,000 = 500-600,000.

:doh:

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Van wrote:Screwball never played for the Nats

Never realized the Washington Nationals issued undergraduate degrees.

When it comes to rooting for sports teams, what does that have to do with anything? Some fourteen-year-old kid from Austin can't consider the Texas Longhorns his team and refer to them as 'we' with his buddies simply because he never received a degree from the University of Texas? His father who has followed them since he was a child and who bleeds Burnt Orange can't either?

Nonsense. If you've supported something all your life, whether it's a sports team, a political party or a set of religious beliefs, you're perfectly within any non self-important douchebag—this is where you need to take a good look in the mirror—rights to refer to that entity as 'we.'

PSUFAN wrote: I agree. I think fans that back programs year after year have every reason to use "we". The programs definitely benefit from this emotional attachment in many ways. Emotional attachments are what make sports (especially college sports) compelling.

not to mention most of us watch our teams with friends who are also fans. "we" is the obvious pronoun in a collective setting.

the only people who have a serious problem with "we" are insecure douchebags who predate hipsters in their obsession with pointless exclusivity or think they've honed in on some niggling linguistic point about who actually constitutes "we." the only use of "we" that raises my eyebrows is the hitherto could-give-a-fuck fan who suddenly starts asking about "our" next game only after the team's in line for a championship or something.

M Club wrote:niggling

Racist.





















And before you go off on me, realize that I'm kidding.

I think it's sort of hilarious that both M Club and I used the exact same word, 'douchebag,' to describe Screwball and his self-serving nonsense of a 'take.'

Let's look at this a little more closely. Who are the three main proponents of Screwball's argument? Why, they're none other than Toejam, AP, and Screwball. I believe Jon also used to ring that same bell.

Nice intellectual company you're keeping there, Screwy. Once again, you embarrass Mgo.

Van wrote:I think it's sort of hilarious that both M Club and I used the exact same word, 'douchebag,' to describe Screwball and his self-serving nonsense of a 'take.'

Let's look at this a little more closely. Who are the three main proponents of Screwball's argument? Why, they're none other than Toejam, AP, and Screwball. I believe Jon also used to ring that same bell.

Nice intellectual company you're keeping there, Screwy. Once again, you embarrass Mgo.

to be fair to screwy, he doesn't launch attacks from any sense of principle.

True, unless you consider "Bitch, move your fat ass! I saw that empty dryer first!" a shining principle.

Van wrote:Let's look at this a little more closely. Who are the three main proponents of Screwball's argument? Why, they're none other than Toejam, AP, and Screwball. I believe Jon also used to ring that same bell.

I don't remember NOJ ever doing that, but if he did, he was all over the map, of sorts, on this particular topic. Long before he accidentally outed himself as Iowa State grad, I remember him complaining that Iowa State fans went to the "you didn't go there" card when addressing IowaFan (in hindsight, it seems clear he was talking about himself, but we didn't know it at the time). So at least on that point, it seems NOJ was the anti-Screwy, even if Screwy's use of this card is reserved strictly for ND subway alums.

Nah, I recall Jon going to the "you can't use 'we' unless you're a grad'' card too. Come to think of it, you know who else is wont to make a big deal over whether a person actually graduated from their team's school?

Shrubber.

So, that makes Toejam, AP, Shrubber, Screwball, and possibly Jon. Basically the Mount Rushmore of Board Piñatas. The only one missing is bradhusker.

Truly, brilliant minds think alike.

Van wrote:Come to think of it, you know who else is wont to make a big deal over whether a person actually graduated from their team's school?

Shrubber.

Shrub was the one who first made a big deal about me using "we" and "us" for ND in this thread.

And I graduated from ND.

Maybe those painkillers are affecting his memory.

Notice that he never returned to the thread following your mention of dude's very own sig?

He probably forgot how to log back in.

Going back to this point . . .

King Crimson wrote:Kansas is one of the top hoops programs in the nation, a member school in AAU....would the Big Ten (alleged criterion)...EVER have taken KU over Nebraska (which lost it's AAU status)?

I think there were more schools mentioned as potential candidates for Big Ten expansion than there were existing members of the Big Ten at the time, and Kansas never got anything more than a passing reference. Truth be told, it isn't even as much about football competitiveness as it is about If that weren't the case, Syracuse and Rutgers -- neither exactly a football power -- wouldn't have gotten considerably more run than Kansas for Big Ten expansion. The Big Ten saw the opportunity to get the BTN into first-tier status in the NYC cable market, and that was all she wrote. Even so, of course, Syracuse and Rutgers could never be anything more than a spare part, not the brass ring itself. The Big Ten needed to get either ND or Texas onboard to do the large-scale expansion necessary to do that, and when they didn't accomplish that, having backed themselves into a corner on expansion, they had to settle for Nebraska, the best football program available.