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BSmack wrote:There has to be some portion of his contract that Giambi has breached. Or was I dreaming when he admitted to using steroids?

You heard what you wanted to hear. Find me a quote where he admitted to anything beyond a "mistake".

Add'ly, I highly doubt such language (use of steroids) exists in his contract. It's not as if he crashed his crotchrocket.

1tnacU wrote:

BSmack wrote:There has to be some portion of his contract that Giambi has breached. Or was I dreaming when he admitted to using steroids?

You heard what you wanted to hear. Find me a quote where he admitted to anything beyond a "mistake".

Add'ly, I highly doubt such language (use of steroids) exists in his contract. It's not as if he crashed his crotchrocket.

Breaking the law violates any kind of morals clause in a contract. Giambi has admitted to using steroids. Therefore, any decent lawyer should be able to find a way to invalidate his contract.

1tnacU wrote:

Shoalzie wrote:I heard about him not wanting to be sent down but with Martinez playing the way he is, Giambi is out of a job.

I understand that. But do you think Giambi cares? It's all about the Benjamins. If dude agrees to be sent down he loses money. If he sits or gets released, he still gets paid.

I believe he still gets paid that money whether he gets sent down or not. Going to the minors would not decrease his contract/salary. Im pretty sure I heard that there was no steroid clause in his contract.

BSmack wrote:Breaking the law violates any kind of morals clause in a contract.

That's great. Provide me with a link to that stipulation in Giambi's contract that you're so obviously privy to.

BSmack wrote:Giambi has admitted to using steroids.

Again, link?

1tnacU wrote:

BSmack wrote:Breaking the law violates any kind of morals clause in a contract.

That's great. Provide me with a link to that stipulation in Giambi's contract that you're so obviously privy to.

BSmack wrote:Giambi has admitted to using steroids.

Again, link?

are you of this fucking EARTH? Have you been living under a rock? Seriously dude, get some fucking air and read a newspaper.

LINK?

1tnacU wrote:LINK?

Do you also need a link proving the sun rose this morning?

Fuckin dipshit.

That is not a LINK to federal grand jury testimony, is it? Did you actually register to provide me with the info I'm demanding? Bawahahahaha... Dance you Mercury Free Press bitch, dance!!

You didn't provide me with a copy of Giambi's contract either.

1tnacU wrote:That is not a LINK to federal grand jury testimony, is it? Did you actually register to provide me with the info I'm demanding? Bawahahahaha... Dance you Mercury Free Press bitch, dance!!

You didn't provide me with a copy of Giambi's contract either.

You are in no position to demand anything.

1tnacU wrote:

The Assassin wrote:Brown wins one game,and you're lookin for a cookie. :roll:

Uh..... no. I'm bumping this thread because you threw the Yankees under the bus 30 games into the season:

The Assassin wrote:This team isnt going anywhere.

I know you post a boatload of stupid shit and it's hard to keep track of it all. Don't worry though... I got your back.

How'd your boy do yesterday? Uh... yeah. 10 hits, 2 walks, 6 runs in 5 innings. That sounds more like the D-Lowe I've seen for the last two years... Expect a 4 pt something ERA, a 1.4 something WHIP, and about 14 wins by season's end.

And guess what? I'm STILL throwing them under the bus.

I never said my Dodgers were gonna win the World Series. Yet myopic Yankee already thinks they are there. Funny thing happened on the way to October. Giambi finally exposed as a fraud, the next time ARod gets a clutch hit,will be the first time. Randy Johnson isn't the same Randy Johnson that dominated in the late 90s to 2003. Face it once again Steinbrenner bought the big name instead of the right fit. Letting that bum Jon Leiber go was a good move huh? :roll: Yanks win a few games and suddenly all is well? Bullshit. Hope you taped the 2000 World Series,because thats the last time you'll see a championship in awhile.

BTW

Beating the shitty ass A's,and the equally shitty ass Mariners isnt something to hang your hat on. Right after the DRays made you their bitches.

The Assassin wrote:
And guess what? I'm STILL throwing them under the bus.

I never said my Dodgers were gonna win the World Series. Yet myopic Yankee already thinks they are there. Funny thing happened on the way to October. Giambi finally exposed as a fraud, the next time ARod gets a clutch hit,will be the first time. Randy Johnson isn't the same Randy Johnson that dominated in the late 90s to 2003. Face it once again Steinbrenner bought the big name instead of the right fit. Letting that bum Jon Leiber go was a good move huh? :roll: Yanks win a few games and suddenly all is well? Bullshit. Hope you taped the 2000 World Series,because thats the last time you'll see a championship in awhile.

To be fair, I saw A-Rod hit a 2 hun HR into the pool at Bank One Ballpark in 1998 that powered the Ms to a win over the DBacks.

So there.

BSmack wrote:

The Assassin wrote:
And guess what? I'm STILL throwing them under the bus.

I never said my Dodgers were gonna win the World Series. Yet myopic Yankee already thinks they are there. Funny thing happened on the way to October. Giambi finally exposed as a fraud, the next time ARod gets a clutch hit,will be the first time. Randy Johnson isn't the same Randy Johnson that dominated in the late 90s to 2003. Face it once again Steinbrenner bought the big name instead of the right fit. Letting that bum Jon Leiber go was a good move huh? :roll: Yanks win a few games and suddenly all is well? Bullshit. Hope you taped the 2000 World Series,because thats the last time you'll see a championship in awhile.

To be fair, I saw A-Rod hit a 2 hun HR into the pool at Bank One Ballpark in 1998 that powered the Ms to a win over the DBacks.

So there.

I stand corrected.

And more on Giambi's contract.

More on morals clauses

Of course, the Yanks won't go that route. We all know Giambi took roids. But to get it on an open public record would require the Yankees to terminate Giambi's contract and for Giambi to sue to reclaim his money. And then MLB would have to show that Giambi did something that entailed not "conform(ing) his personal conduct to the standards of good citizenship and good sportsmanship."

And we all know that would involve putting Giambi on the stand, under oath, to testify about the steroid habits of his teammates.

That's why the Yanks will choose the bitch move and keep Giambi.

"Teams don't like to invoke those clauses," said Gary Roberts, director of Tulane University's Sports Law program. "The only effort at that in my modern memory was shot down on a fairly technical procedural basis."

Good point you brought up about the morals clause. Because its use is SO PREVELENT and it's so pertinent do this discussion. Spree tries KILLING someone and they still couldn't invoke it. That's the ONLY TIME a morals clause WAS EVER TRIED. AND IT FAILED!!! Giambi tries to better himself as a ballplayer and you think they'd use THAT CLAUSE against him?? Are you insane? It's been a joy watching you flail about in this thread, you fucking idiot.


Oh and AssAssin... I'm not a Yankees fan. LINK please to where ever that was brought up. You and BeSmacked are two peas in a pod.

1tnacU wrote:"Teams don't like to invoke those clauses," said Gary Roberts, director of Tulane University's Sports Law program. "The only effort at that in my modern memory was shot down on a fairly technical procedural basis."

Good point you brought up about the morals clause. Because its use is SO PREVELENT and it's so pertinent do this discussion. Spree tries KILLING someone and they still couldn't invoke it. That's the ONLY TIME a morals clause WAS EVER TRIED. AND IT FAILED!!! Giambi tries to better himself as a ballplayer and you think they'd use THAT CLAUSE against him?? Are you insane? It's been a joy watching you flail about in this thread, you fucking idiot.


Oh and AssAssin... I'm not a Yankees fan. LINK please to where ever that was brought up. You and BeSmacked are two peas in a pod.

Then who IS your team !tnucU??

The Assassin wrote:

1tnacU wrote:"Teams don't like to invoke those clauses," said Gary Roberts, director of Tulane University's Sports Law program. "The only effort at that in my modern memory was shot down on a fairly technical procedural basis."

Good point you brought up about the morals clause. Because its use is SO PREVELENT and it's so pertinent do this discussion. Spree tries KILLING someone and they still couldn't invoke it. That's the ONLY TIME a morals clause WAS EVER TRIED. AND IT FAILED!!! Giambi tries to better himself as a ballplayer and you think they'd use THAT CLAUSE against him?? Are you insane? It's been a joy watching you flail about in this thread, you fucking idiot.


Oh and AssAssin... I'm not a Yankees fan. LINK please to where ever that was brought up. You and BeSmacked are two peas in a pod.

Then who IS your team !tnucU??

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Adelpiero wrote:

The Assassin wrote:

1tnacU wrote:"Teams don't like to invoke those clauses," said Gary Roberts, director of Tulane University's Sports Law program. "The only effort at that in my modern memory was shot down on a fairly technical procedural basis."

Good point you brought up about the morals clause. Because its use is SO PREVELENT and it's so pertinent do this discussion. Spree tries KILLING someone and they still couldn't invoke it. That's the ONLY TIME a morals clause WAS EVER TRIED. AND IT FAILED!!! Giambi tries to better himself as a ballplayer and you think they'd use THAT CLAUSE against him?? Are you insane? It's been a joy watching you flail about in this thread, you fucking idiot.


Oh and AssAssin... I'm not a Yankees fan. LINK please to where ever that was brought up. You and BeSmacked are two peas in a pod.

Then who IS your team !tnucU??

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Hold on one cotton pickin minute!!!

Then why in the hell are you so up in arms over my declaration of Yankee decline? How bout you worry about why Tony LaRussa has done so little with so much in St Louis. If he is the "genuis" of managers how come with a powerhouse A's team he only one 1 World Series title? Worry about that iinstead of the fucking Yanks.

The Assassin wrote:Then why in the hell are you so up in arms over my declaration of Yankee decline?

I try not to limit my takes to just my team. Ohhhh... that and also I feel I have the intelligence to discuss a wide range of topics. You obviously... do not.

Have the Yankees even lost since I bumped this thread? RACK ME.

Have the Yankees played a good team either? :P

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1tnacU wrote:"Teams don't like to invoke those clauses," said Gary Roberts, director of Tulane University's Sports Law program. "The only effort at that in my modern memory was shot down on a fairly technical procedural basis."

Good point you brought up about the morals clause. Because its use is SO PREVELENT and it's so pertinent do this discussion. Spree tries KILLING someone and they still couldn't invoke it. That's the ONLY TIME a morals clause WAS EVER TRIED. AND IT FAILED!!! Giambi tries to better himself as a ballplayer and you think they'd use THAT CLAUSE against him?? Are you insane? It's been a joy watching you flail about in this thread, you fucking idiot.

You're damn straight they would use it against Giambi. That is, if they could without exposing all the other steroid freaks in NY and MLB. The Rockies also terminated Denny Neagle's deal after he got caught trolling for hos. They settled out of court with him and saved a few million dollars on one of the worst contracts ever signed.

BTW: I never said the Yank WOULD use a moral clause against Giambi, only that they would be within their rights to do so. But feel free to spew your diarrhea some more. It's like watching a train wreck.

BSmack wrote: BTW: I never said the Yank WOULD use a moral clause against Giambi, only that they would be within their rights to do so.

Bitch, please. This sounded like a done deal to me:

BSmack wrote:Breaking the law violates any kind of morals clause in a contract. Giambi has admitted to using steroids. Therefore, any decent lawyer should be able to find a way to invalidate his contract.

Or can Steinbrenner not afford a "decent" lawyer. After you're done chewing on them, why don't you tell me how those words taste. I bet they're a lot like your average post. Absolute shit.

1tnacU wrote:

BSmack wrote: BTW: I never said the Yank WOULD use a moral clause against Giambi, only that they would be within their rights to do so.

Bitch, please. This sounded like a done deal to me:

Only because you're an absolute moron. I'll highlight the word you missed.

BSmack wrote:Breaking the law violates any kind of morals clause in a contract. Giambi has admitted to using steroids. Therefore, any decent lawyer should be able to find a way to invalidate his contract.

Should does not equal will. On the other hand, we know for sure that 1tnacU=moron.

BSmack wrote:Any decent lawyer can nullify Giambi's contract. Which of course means, he won't, and oh btw -- we both know that the Yankees will never go this route, but I am still right, even though I can't prove I'm right, but if they did go that route, which they won't, you know and I know that I'm right. Ya see, because I said so, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Even though the only time in the history of sports this clause was invoked, the league got bawahahahaha'ed at. Not to mention... the instance, you know, the one I'm referring to, that player tried KILLING HIS COACH and the league still got bawahahahahaha'ed at. But again. I AM right, this is easily provable. But it won't be proven, and I'm right.

Niiiiice semantics card.

1tnacU wrote:Niiiiice semantics card.

Crying semantics is always the last refuge of the stupid.

And here I thought stupid = saying something is easily provable and then saying that it's incapable of being proven. Especially when the thing you're trying to prove has never been brought to fruition. In fact, the only time it was brought before a judge, it was bitchslapped even harder than you've been in this thread. Not to mention, that one case... it was a much more egregious offense than what you submitted.

Also... not to mention it could be easily argued that Giambi took steroids in the interest of furthering his career and thus helping the team, and you really think the team could "easily" invoke the morals clause then? I, of course, don't plan on proving the argument that I'm submitting, only that I think I'm right, and you therefore, are wrong. Sound familiar?

1tnacU wrote:And here I thought stupid = saying something is easily provable and then saying that it's incapable of being proven. Especially when the thing you're trying to prove has never been brought to fruition. In fact, the only time it was brought before a judge, it was bitchslapped even harder than you've been in this thread. Not to mention, that one case... it was a much more egregious offense than what you submitted.

Keep ignoring the Neagle case. It can only hurt your argument. The players union now has agreed in principle that the clause CAN be enforced. For the first time in modern baseball, the player's union allowed a player contract to be reduced in value as a direct result of a player's off the field conduct.

Also... not to mention it could be easily argued that Giambi took steroids in the interest of furthering his career and thus helping the team, and you really think the team could "easily" invoke the morals clause then? I, of course, don't plan on proving the argument that I'm submitting, only that I think I'm right, and you therefore, are wrong. Sound familiar?

You cannot break the law and then claim it was meant to "help the team". Furthermore, if Giambi roided up in Oakland, then he was inflating his value through fraudulent means. There's no WAY you can spin that as being in the best interests of the Yankees.

You may now remove the plunger. I'm done with you.

BSmack wrote:Keep ignoring the Neagle case.

Exactly. Neagle has NOTHING to do with our debate. We're talking about Giambi and how "easily" the clause "could" have been invoked there. But wasn't. But if it was, it would have held up. 100% for sure. Focus, you fucking dipshit.

BSmack wrote:You cannot break the law and then claim it was meant to "help the team".

Sure, my take has a certain fallacy to it. But again, I don't have to prove it, do I? Did you read where I wrote:

1ntacU wrote:Sound familiar?

??
I guess irony is about as foreign to you as common sense.

1tnacU wrote:

The Assassin wrote:
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Have the Yankees even lost since I bumped this thread? RACK ME.

Why did you hit those home runs against those 'contenders' the A's,and Mariners? Is this really Tino Martinez in between at bats posting on a message board? No? Then quit patting the blubber on your back,and STFU.

Wow AssASSin... too bad for you... and the Dodgers, MLB didn't declare a winner a mere 30 games in, huh?

1tnacU wrote:Wow AssASSin... too bad for you... and the Dodgers, MLB didn't declare a winner a mere 30 games in, huh?

And too bad for you that Tony LaRussa is STILL your manager. Have fun underachieving again. :wink:

The Assassin wrote:Tony LaRussa and underachieving his team kicked our post-season asses last year. I'm gonna STFU now.

What the hell for?

You guys want a really good laugh?

Click here.

1tnacU wrote:

The Assassin wrote:Tony LaRussa and underachieving his team kicked our post-season asses last year. I'm gonna STFU now.

What the hell for?

How original,changing what I said into something different. :roll:


You beat us in the postseason,you want a cookie?You were supposed to dumbfuck! As a Dodger fan I even knew we had little chance to win the series!

But the difference between the Dodgers,and the Tards,is that the Dodgers didnt go down without a fight. However the LaRussa led Cards bent over,and let the Red Sox fuck them hard in the ass. But thats expected from a LaRussa team.

Dinsdale wrote:You guys want a really good laugh?

Click here.

And in how many teams the Yankees beat in this streak were worth a damn????


Anyone??Anyone???

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but entry to the Playoffs(you know, that thing that the Yanks have no chance at?) is based on overall record.

Teams actually play ALL of the other teams in their league. How many AL, or even NL teams racked up 10 straight so far?

Buy a clue, dork.

Dinsdale wrote:I hate to be the one to break it to you, but entry to the Playoffs(you know, that thing that the Yanks have no chance at?) is based on overall record.

Teams actually play ALL of the other teams in their league. How many AL, or even NL teams racked up 10 straight so far?

Buy a clue, dork.

Of course you missed the point.

When the Yans play the contending teams aa the Red Sox,Angels,White Sox,Orioles etc. Lets see how well they do. Winning 10 in a row against lousy teams doesnt mean shit. the D Rays won what,like 13 in a row last year,and STILL finished next to last.

Maybe the dude who posted this --

The Assassin wrote:the only thing gonna rise in New York is Steinbrenners blood pressure. This team isnt going anywhere.

Should maybe think about cutting his losses.

Face it, Dins.
Your team sucks.