Flipping recruits

[Goober McTuber]

Good to know you like your info in twitter size bites.

You consider your posts to be "info"?

[Left Seater]

Insert your favorite lawyer joke here. But why am I not surprised that it is a lawyer that doesn't understand the difference between rules and ethics.

[Left Seater]

I know the rules of the game. The NCAA regs on the other hand are so huge very few know them backwards and forwards. Still doesn't change the fact that legal and ethical are not synonyms.

[Killian]

So once a rule is added it becomes unethical? Makes perfect sense.

[Left Seater]

Give the kids and schools an early signing day, sometime before their first game of their senior year in HS. If a junior decides to sign on that early signing day allow him as well (sophomores and freshman too)

No way should underclass men be signing period. Way too much can happen before their first day of class. Contrary to popular belief it is very easy to have schools stop everything but mail contact. So if a soph decides he is going to USC while in his soph year of HS he just opts out of phone and email contact from other schools.

If there is a coaching change the player, who has signed early, has a right to de-commit from that school and then re-open his recruitment so other schools may contact him ad he can then sign on the standard signing day in February of his senior year or in August if he is an 11th grader or younger.

Exactly the reason why underclass men shouldn't be signing. Player should sign with a school for 5 years, or until their behavior, grades or choice voids that agreement. Coaching moves shouldn't void any agreement since the contract is between players and a school. If a player chooses to void that agreement then he should have to sit out two seasons. Keep the current rule that allows players to move without penalty once they graduate.

Make all scholarship offers 4 year scholarships, a school can not revoke a players scholarship for 4 years after that student arrives on campus unless that student has failed to remain on schedule to graduate or if that student asks to transfer or drop out of college.

It should be 5 years and if a player wants to void the contract they have to sit out two seasons.

If a school has signed more than 85 players to scholarships over the previous 3 seasons, they will not be able to offer any scholarships or sign any players the next season unless some of those players have left the school by the players own choice.


If you let players have free agency then there will be plenty of players that can't sign anywhere due to lack of scholarships anywhere. Schools are already limited to the 85 number. If the NCAA made these deals 5 years this is a moot point.

Once a school has signed a player, that school is agreeing to a 4 year obligation and only the player can break it.

Disagree. We are currently arguing against these one sided deals that favor the schools. Why swing these all the way the other way where they are one sided to the players? If we are going to expect one side to commit for multiple years the other side should make the same commitment.

[Left Seater]

I could budge on the 5th season, but so many players red shirt and so many of the general student population takes more than 4 years to graduate that athletes should also get 5 years.

As for ATM and their 32 verbals time will tell. They can't sign all 32 and have them matriculated in the summer or fall semester. They could count any who matriculate in the spring semester against the last signing class if they signed less than 25 then. Or they may think some will not qualify academically. The other possibility is some gray shirt. That means they would be paying their own way for at least a year.

Way to early to make a judgement on their numbers.

[Terry in Crapchester]

I would put a qualifier in on the players transferring, they have to be on pace for getting their degree, if they have been at the school for 3 years, then they need to be one year away from getting their degree to be eligible to transfer

One of the few things you've ever posted that I agree with. But since when did you, of all people, start to care about whether these kids graduate?

[Goober McTuber]

Since I have a son who is a senior in High School and is playing the recruiting game now

Oh, yes. The brutal fight for the 3rd chair clarinet.