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mvscal wrote:So every global intelligence agency is being run by one lonely yenta with a blog? Is that your take? Just another instance of Jews trying to make peaceful Muslims look bad?

Fuck off, idiot.

Why not? It would fit in with your narrative that every Muslim with a scimitar to grind is a crazed, suicidal jihadist...

Choke yourself, you brainwiped dullard.




I've always quietly assumed that you're just a homicidal misanthrope that will accept any target-of-opportunity...brown people being the "body bag fillers du jour"...
For that, I put you one notch ahead of the drool cup jockeys like Wags and suckaholic that actually buy into the propaganda line of "war on terror".

I'm okay with riding this thread out until Felchco shows up and talks about Zionist Martian polar ice caps and Henry Kissinger's secret moon base...then I'm done. Gonzo.

The French brass (assuming the French command actually has any) apparently is none too happy about one of their soldiers being photographed with this scarf, which he had put on because of dust.

I guess they don't want anybody to think that their soldiers are there to hurt or even kill somebody.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... t=1&f=1001

He's Foreign Legion.

The regular French army "officials" can go pound sand. Probably said more out of jealousy than anything else.

mvscal wrote:So every global intelligence agency is being run by one lonely yenta with a blog?

Who said that :? I'd imagine the Algerian government's motivations and justifications are a little more sophisticated than a tubby little yenta with a holocaust fixation.

What's interesting is that usually by the time the BBC and other world services pick the story up, the source is edited out of the narrative.

"OH MY GAWD! Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are...


om-nom-nom-nom

...homicide bombers and baby strollers...


nom...om-nom...om-nom-nom

Islamo-fascist war on Judeo-Christian values..."



om...om...om-nom-nom-nom-nom-nom

Dr_Phibes wrote:

mvscal wrote:So every global intelligence agency is being run by one lonely yenta with a blog?

Who said that :? I'd imagine the Algerian government's motivations and justifications are a little more sophisticated than a tubby little yenta with a holocaust fixation.

Oh, so the Algerian government staged a false flag attack on its own gas facility in order to.........?

dunno. Talk to Felchco.

Establishing a narrative in a religious context, rather than a political one, gives you the advantage of dismissing someone as being irrational and beyond reason. You didn't have a problem screeching about that over Benghazi.

mvscal wrote:

Dr_Phibes wrote:

mvscal wrote:So every global intelligence agency is being run by one lonely yenta with a blog?

Who said that :? I'd imagine the Algerian government's motivations and justifications are a little more sophisticated than a tubby little yenta with a holocaust fixation.

Oh, so the Algerian government staged a false flag attack on its own gas facility in order to.........?

He meant the Algerian government allowing dirty undershirt mouthbreathers in the USofA to believe whatever the fuck they want (kooky Islamo-spook bedtime stories) while they take care of anti-state actors in a manner they see fit.

You people are so child-like.

It's almost quaint.

Dr_Phibes wrote:Establishing a narrative in a religious context, rather than a political one, .

Those aren't separate contexts when you are dealing with Islamists. They are reactionary theocrats, idiot. There is no divide between religion and politics.

mvscal wrote:
Those aren't separate contexts when you are dealing with Islamists. They are reactionary theocrats, idiot. There is no divide between religion and politics.

Martyred wrote:You people are so child-like.

Yeah...pretty much.

Considering these groups are numerous and different in their specific aims (often at odds with each other), geographical presence, structure, nature and specific enemy and have no communication with each other, that does not follow.

I don't accept that Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, Iraq insurgents, the Sadr brigades, Algerian rebels (AQIM }, Amrozi etc. etc. are all in the same group to start with, nor would any reasonable person.

Other than Ms. Katz.

...and Wags.

the 'extremists' among them seem intent on imposing sharia law, whatever that means. And it doesn't matter what group or nationality they purport to represent, kinda' like the NRA.

War Wagon wrote:...imposing sharia law...

Muslims preferring an Islamic basis for their societies...why, that's just crazy talk!




You people shit the bed every time some City Hall jew tries to yank down a Christmas tree. Same thing.

Doesn't sound so bad to me, instead of having 88 come round your house and smash you with a ten grand bill so he can go target shooting, have a Sharia lawyer come round for free and tell wifey to get off her arse and do the dishes.

win/win

Dr_Phibes wrote:Doesn't sound so bad to me, instead of having 88 come round your house and smash you with a ten grand bill so he can go target shooting, have a Sharia lawyer come round for free and tell wifey to get off her arse and do the dishes.

win/win

Tha's what i'm talkin 'bout Wilis

Wags, my take on the whole Mali/Algeria thing is that both these countries closely resemble Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't know why, but those head loppin' Izzies sure love to hole up in shitty locations. Sure, I've been doing it for years now, but it's for the I can always go home and live a life of luxury and eat some pork ribs and drink some hooch. These idiots? They deny themselves even the most basic niceities and choose to reside in shit. If there were a way to positively keep them there and have them stop meddling in our business, I'd say do it and let them continue to herd goats and live in filth.

Rooster wrote:These idiots? They deny themselves even the most basic niceities and choose to reside in shit.

Yeah, I'm sure these impoverished, illiterate sand retards overtly choose to live in that shit. Go eat a drone strike, moron.

88 wrote:I don't know about what you are talking about (I treated it like an AP post), but this ought to be a smilie, just sayin:

That was a bit of a rush-job...

I've tightened things up. Much cleaner:

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Rooster wrote:These idiots? They deny themselves even the most basic niceities and choose to reside in shit.

Yeah, I'm sure these impoverished, illiterate sand retards overtly choose to live in that shit. Go eat a drone strike, moron.

Yeah, rooster, the entire arab world was a paradise until we drone striked them into the middle ages.

smackaholic wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Rooster wrote:These idiots? They deny themselves even the most basic niceities and choose to reside in shit.

Yeah, I'm sure these impoverished, illiterate sand retards overtly choose to live in that shit. Go eat a drone strike, moron.

Yeah, rooster, the entire arab world was a paradise until we drone striked them into the middle ages.

It would be nice if our Nobel Peace Prize winning president could order a drone strike on your shithole abode, too. I bet your neighbors would applaud.

Dr_Phibes wrote:Considering these groups are numerous and different in their specific aims (often at odds with each other), geographical presence, structure, nature and specific enemy.

Yes they all have very different goals. Some groups want to install an Islamic theocracy in Algeria. Others want to install an Islamic theocracy in Libya. Some want an Islamic theocracy in Egypt while others strive for an Islamic theocracy in Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Indonesia, Syria, the Gulf Emirates, Somalia, Nigeria and Sudan.

Quite the kaleidoscopic diversity of goals.

and have no communication with each other

This is one of the most pathetically stupid remarks I've ever read in any forum or medium. How the fuck do you think shit loads of Libyan and Syrian Islamists end up fighting in Iraq if these groups don't communicate or cooperate? How do Arabs end up fighting in Afghanistan with no communication with Taliban reactionaries? How is it that the attackers in Algeria came from all over North Africa and other Arab nations if there was no communication between these groups.

Take your time, dumbshit.

I don't accept that Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, Iraq insurgents, the Sadr brigades, Algerian rebels (AQIM }, Amrozi etc. etc. are all in the same group to start with, nor would any reasonable person.

They are all Islamists, aren't they? They all hate the United States, have murdered our citizens and threatened our economic interests, have they not? In any event, nobody gives a fuck what you accept. The FACT of the matter is that they are all in the same group: Targets of Opportunity.

We should be doing on a global scale what the Algerians have done locally.

You sound utterly terrified.

How's the view from the chair you're standing on?

I pray to Allah that trev reads this thread so she can see what a chicken-livered homo you really are and she finally makes up her mind to get with a REAL man.


Meaning me, of course.

You sound...stupid.

Martyred wrote:I pray to Allah that trev reads this thread so she can see what a chicken-livered homo you really are and she finally makes up her mind to get with a REAL man.


Meaning me, of course.

She's already putting out definite feelers...

vvvvvv

mvscal wrote:You sound...stupid.

You equate nutty Muslims with Home Depot gift certificates to the Soviet Union in terms of threat...

...and I'm stupid?

Check yourself, hero.

Van wrote:

Martyred wrote:I pray to Allah that trev reads this thread so she can see what a chicken-livered homo you really are and she finally makes up her mind to get with a REAL man.


Meaning me, of course.

She's already putting out definite feelers...

vvvvvv

Is this your shot at comedy? I'm not laughing.

:x

Hey, she also made pointed comments about her own set of these...



Our lovely trev...finally flowering into moist, glistening womanhood. :sniffles:

Van wrote: Our lovely trev...finally flowering into moist, glistening womanhood. :sniffles:

:cry:

Actually, yes, most Izzies are Izzies because of where they live. Islam is a harsh misanthropic religion steeped in hate and dissatisfaction due largely to the location where it was founded. It flourished because it reflects the mindset of the people who live there. But likely never having been anywhere near the Middle East, North Africa, or Central Asia, I doubt you naysayer would understand that since you've lived your life in the comfortable confines of the United States and/or Canada. But I get that you enjoy pontificting on that which you have no particular expertise.

As for making the Middle East a paradise, the Jews arrived from Europe and Asia, bought undesirable land from the Turks, made it arable, turned a profit, bought more land, and eventually linked the kibbutz' together and ended up isolating the Palestinians who'd made a mess of what they'd been living on for millenia. These same Jews then turned a desolate wasteland into a highly successful farming/industrial/political entity which eventually was given recognised statehood status worldwide.

So Paradise in the Middle East? Maybe not, but pretty close when compared to what it had been for centuries under Islamic law and religion. And why is that? Because Islam is at its' heart fatalistic, wherein everything boils down to "If Allah wills it." This is rife in Muslim life-- everything from disease to accidents to toture to misogyny to suicide bombers to lack of hygeine to lack to economic success. Good things haven't happened to them because only that Allah hasn't willed it into existence, to say nothing about actually fending for oneself, making a better life for you and your family, and accepting that others may think differently than you. It is at the core of why Islam is the death knell (all too often quite literally) of culture, variety, experimentation, innovation, success, risk taking, and personal responsibility. It is the diametric opposite of Western culture, where success is celebrated and emulated. Non-orthodoxy is anathema to Islam because it disproves its' philosophy in every facet of life.

Martyred wrote:

Rooster wrote:As for making the Middle East a paradise, the Jews arrived from Europe and Asia, bought undesirable land from the Turks, made it arable, turned a profit, bought more land, and eventually linked the kibbutz' together and ended up isolating the Palestinians who'd made a mess of what they'd been living on for millenia. These same Jews then turned a desolate wasteland into a highly successful farming/industrial/political entity which eventually was given recognised statehood status worldwide.

So Paradise in the Middle East? Maybe not, but pretty close when compared to what it had been for centuries under Islamic law and religion. And why is that? Because Islam is at its' heart fatalistic, wherein everything boils down to "If Allah wills it." This is rife in Muslim life-- everything from disease to accidents to toture to misogyny to suicide bombers to lack of hygeine to lack to economic success. Good things haven't happened to them because only that Allah hasn't willed it into existence, to say nothing about actually fending for oneself, making a better life for you and your family, and accepting that others may think differently than you. It is at the core of why Islam is the death knell (all too often quite literally) of culture, variety, experimentation, innovation, success, risk taking, and personal responsibility. It is the diametric opposite of Western culture, where success is celebrated and emulated. Non-orthodoxy is anathema to Islam because it disproves its' philosophy in every facet of life.

Rack it.

Rooster wrote:Islam is a harsh misanthropic religion steeped in hate and dissatisfaction due largely to the location where it was founded.

Same location that Christianity and Judaism were founded, right?

mvscal wrote:

Rooster wrote:Islam is a harsh misanthropic religion steeped in hate and dissatisfaction due largely to the location where it was founded.

Same location that Christianity and Judaism were founded, right?

all this time I thought islam was a harsh & misanthropic religion, steeped in hate & dissatisfaction largely due to the fact that it was invented by a fucking, degenerate Arab

Rooster wrote:I doubt you naysayer would understand that since you've lived your life in the comfortable confines of the United States and/or Canada. But I get that you enjoy pontificting on that which you have no particular expertise.

But you haven't got to go to the moon to know it isn't made of green cheese.

The ultimate aim of the operation you're involved in is material, but idealogically based. The workings of ideology are largely unconscious - ideology presents itself as 'natural'. Judaism in a political sense, argues that capitalism has existed since the Stone Age and is the only system which accords with 'human nature'.
The more you try to naturalise your beliefs, the more ideological you become.

Considering every aspect of the foreign policy has been an embarrasing, unmitigated failure and a massive waste of resources, the practical thing to do would be reassess the approach, rather than reinforce it.