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H4ever wrote: If Fox supports a candidate and you are a middle-class, working American, DO NOT vote for any candidate endorsed by Fox.

Clear enough? Thank you Fox for your efforts in keeping voters informed... on how NOT to vote

Something is clear alright.

Your take that people watch Fox to do the exact opposite is hilarious. Hey world I can't think for myself so I do the opposite of what Fox says.

Nice addition of working after middle class. The only class where a vast majority of people aren't working is the poor.

But if the middle class was doing what you think they should Congress wouldn't be controlled by R's.

Nobody with a brain who makes less than 250k a year should ever vote for an R. The problem is most people who make less than 250k a year make less because they are stupid. That's the only reason there even still is a R party. Well that and racism.

ok, I'll bite. I make less than $250K.

Please tell me how the D's are going to help me and why I should be voting for them.

I said you should not vote R. I didn't say you should vote D.

And if you make less than 250 I bet it's not by much.

Point taken and I will restate my question.

Since I make less than $250K, please tell me why I shouldn't vote for R candidates.

Because you don't make enough money, to benefit enough, from their consolidation of power and money to make it worth throwing your vote at them. You don't get back as much as you give in other words.

Unless you are a racist or a war monger, then by all means vote R no matter your income level.

Moving Sale wrote:Because you don't make enough money, to benefit enough, from their consolidation of power and money to make it worth throwing your vote at them. You don't get back as much as you give in other words.

Assuming you are correct, it is still far better than the alternative. I have three choices as I see it:

Vote R and not get as much as I give

Vote D and get back far far less than I give

Don't vote or vote for a 3rd part which is the same as not voting


Voting R is the best of three poor options.

Voting for the person you feel is best is not throwing your vote away. This is not a bet. The goal isn't to try pick a winner everytime. In my world there would be runoff voting ( I think that's what it's called) so there wouldn't be that problem in the first place.

And as a side note I reject your premise that the Ds give you less than the Rs and if they do it's pretty damn close.

And you named four options btw.

Riiight, Because Dims aren't war mongering racists at all. No siree, bob.

Idiot

mvscal wrote:Riiight, Because Dims aren't war mongering racists at all. No siree, bob.

Idiot

They might be worse.

War Wagon wrote:Fox steals the best talent from other networks, probably because they can afford to pay them twice as much. Howard Kurst being the latest example.

1) You have no fucking clue who Howard "Kurst" is because if you did, you'd spell his name right.

2) Howard Kurtz wasn't hired to Fox because they "paid" him better, it's because no one else with any shred of credibility wanted anything to do with a man with a history of lying and making up shit so long he makes Brian Williams look honest.

3) News flash: Howard Kurtz is one of the media elite you despise so much. I wouldn't piss on Kurtz if he were on fire.

Despite not knowing how to spell his name correctly, I enjoy his show. Both today and when he was on CNN.

As for your other diatribes, this coming from the same guy who says "fuck Dean Smith" as part of his eulogy. You should really see a doctor about that anger problem. But whatever you do, stay away from firearms.

War Wagon wrote:Despite not knowing how to spell his name correctly, I enjoy his show. Both today and when he was on CNN.

No surprise as you both populate the shallow end of the stupid fucker gene pool.

mvscal wrote:Riiight, Because Dims aren't war mongering racists at all. No siree, bob.

Idiot

Some are some are not, but if you are a war mongering racist, like yourself, the Rs will take much better care of you.


Funny how you all somehow care about lying about Iraq NOW.

Fucking asshats.

Moving Sale wrote: And as a side note I reject your premise that the Ds give you less than the Rs and if they do it's pretty damn close.

And you named four options btw.

Please explain how the D's give me the same back as the R's.


And yes I did list four but notice that I felt the last two were in reality the same thing.

I didn't say same I said close. You think they are not close to the same assholes in different hats for the under 250k crowd? Do tell.

Take Barry's you didn't build that line, or Hillary's corporations and businesses don't create jobs.

Then add to it Elizabeth Warren's ideas of superminimum wages and 50% tax rates and increased business taxes. Mix it with Obamacare that we were told we needed to pass to find out what was in it.

Not to mention D's baseline positions of progressive taxes and government providing everything for the poor instead of charities helping.

On the flip side I have seen R's roll back business taxes, suggest a flat tax with no deductions, property tax growth limitations and this is a pretty easy decision.

Screw_Michigan wrote:
No surprise as you both populate the shallow end of the stupid fucker gene pool.

Must be nice to look in the mirror and decide beyond a shadow of doubt in which end you reside.

Humility can be a virtue or a curse but if I were you, I'd avoid mirrors.

I'm not the one licking Howard Kurtz's testicles. I know you don't know any better, but jesus, can't you find someone less of a scum-sucking lowlife to idolize? Trust me, I'm not the only one who wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire and it goes way beyond politics. Dude is simply amoral.

Left Seater wrote:Take Barry's you didn't build that line, or Hillary's corporations and businesses don't create jobs.

Corporations & businesses don't create jobs.

That's right, only the government can create jobs.

Just ask the USSR.

Carson wrote:That's right, only the government can create jobs.

Just ask the USSR.

Who said anything about the government creating jobs?

Are you saying GOD creates jobs?

Carson wrote:Are you saying GOD creates jobs?

No, jobs are not created by fairy tales...

Ok wise one, how are jobs created, if businesses and corporations don't add positions?


A former teammate has started a new company in which he helps small businesses and small cities develop their disaster contingency plans. He put everything he owned on the line to get the idea off the ground. The corporation is now in its third year and has 7 employees.

Can't wait to hear who or what is responsible for those 7 new jobs since it isn't the corporation he started.

Left Seater wrote:Ok wise one, how are jobs created, if businesses and corporations don't add positions?


A former teammate has started a new company in which he helps small businesses and small cities develop their disaster contingency plans. He put everything he owned on the line to get the idea off the ground. The corporation is now in its third year and has 7 employees.

Can't wait to hear who or what is responsible for those 7 new jobs since it isn't the corporation he started.

Neither the 7 new jobs nor the corporation would have been born if not for what?

God's disasters!

Diego in Seattle wrote:

Left Seater wrote:Take Barry's you didn't build that line, or Hillary's corporations and businesses don't create jobs.

Corporations & businesses don't create jobs.

They just create the products and services which happen to require jobs to produce. You remain a pitifully stupid, spurt-guzzling dipshit.

mvscal wrote:

Diego in Seattle wrote:

Left Seater wrote:Take Barry's you didn't build that line, or Hillary's corporations and businesses don't create jobs.

Corporations & businesses don't create jobs.

They just create the products and services which happen to require jobs to produce. You remain a pitifully stupid, spurt-guzzling dipshit.

Home-use wooden toilets that feature cupholders & retail for $50,000 would create jobs as well. Why isn't there a corporation to create such a product, numbnuts?

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Neither the 7 new jobs nor the corporation would have been born if not for what?

I guess the point you are trying to make is that it wouldn't happen without him and his willingness to risk it all on his idea. Granted.

But the point you are missing is that he and the corporation are one and the same. He is the corporation and the corporation is him. Same for me. My business is a corporation as well. I personally don't employ anyone, the corporation does.

This is a huge point you and Hillary and Barry don't seem to understand or you want to gloss right over it.

Left Seater wrote:

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Neither the 7 new jobs nor the corporation would have been born if not for what?

I guess the point you are trying to make is that it wouldn't happen without him and his willingness to risk it all on his idea. Granted.

Swing & a miss.

First off, I am fully aware that some corporations simply consist of one employee - the owner.

See my last post to mvsidiot. Why would or wouldn't someone create a corporation to make home-use wooden toilets with cupholders retailing at $50,000?

So you think it is all demand for a product at an affordable price that creates jobs?

Interesting.

War Wagon wrote:
Fox steals the best talent from other networks, probably because they can afford to pay them twice as much. Howard Kurst being the latest example.

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"The Dumb Girls" on FOX News, smart, yet smoldering...

For the past 10 years FOX News has had higher ratings and the largest audience numbers (for news and business/political "talk" programs) than all the other TV and Cable news channels combined, which includes: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS!
Some folks claim that FOX's higher ratings are only because FOX purposely hires a lot of female "reporters" who do nothing but sit around in short skirts and merely "read everything off of a teleprompter".
Bottom line: The next time you hear someone criticizing FOX News for supposedly having a "bunch of dumb gals" as eye candy . . . Check out their qualifications...let them speak for themselves!

Brenda Buttner:
She graduated from Harvard University with honors with a bachelor's degree in social studies. Buttner went on to be a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University , where she graduated with high honors and a bachelor's degree in politics and economics.

Shannon Bream:
She is a graduate of Liberty University and earned a Juris Doctorate with honors from Florida State University College of Law.

Gretchen Carlson:
Carlson graduated with honors from Stanford University and also studied at Oxford University in England .

Jamie Colby:
Aside from her journalism career, Colby is an attorney and served in private practice for 10 years. She is an attorney admitted to practice in New York , California , the District of Columbia and Florida . Colby is also a former law professor, a member of Law Review and has been a National Board member of American Women in Radio and Television for the last several years. Attending the University of Miami International School of Business at age 14, she received a Bachelor of Business Administration in accounting as well as her Juris Doctor degree from the University of Miami School of Law at age 22.

Harris Faulkner:
A graduate from the University of California at Santa Barbara with a degree in mass communication.

Jennifer Griffin:
A graduate of Harvard University in 1992, Griffin received a Bachelor’s degree in comparative politics.

Kimberly Guilfoyle:
Guilfoyle is a magna cum laude graduate of University of California , Davis and attended the University of San Francisco School of Law and Trinity College in Dublin , Ireland , where she studied and was published for her research in international children's rights and European Economic Community law.

Molly Henneberg:
Henneberg earned her bachelor's degree from Vanderbilt University , graduating summa cum laude.

Catherine Herridge:
Herridge earned a Bachelor's degree from Harvard College and a Master's degree in journalism from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

Amy Kellogg:
Kellogg began to study Russian at Phillips Academy in Andover , Massachusetts and then received her BA in Soviet Studies from Brown University . She spent a semester at Leningrad State University . She received her Masters from Stanford University in Russian and East European Studies and also speaks Spanish and French.

Megyn Kelly:
Kelly earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Political Science from Syracuse University and a J.D. >From Albany Law School, where she also served as editor of the Albany Law Review.

Jenna Lee:
A graduate of the University of California at Santa Barbara , Lee obtained her master's degree from Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

Molly Line:
Line is a graduate of Virginia Tech where she received her Bachelor of Arts in mass communication and political science.

Dagen McDowell:
A native of Virginia , McDowell graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in art history.

Heather Nauert:
She graduated from Mt. Vernon College in Washington , D.C. , with a bachelor of arts in communications and she received her master’s in journalism from Columbia University . Nauert is also a term member at the Council of Foreign Relations.

Dana Perino:
She graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Mass Communication from Colorado State University-Pueblo and went on to receive a Masters in Public Affairs Reporting from the University of Illinois-Springfield ..

Anita Vogel:
Vogel graduated from the University of Southern California with a Bachelor of Arts degree in broadcast journalism and political science.

Lis Wiehl:
Wiehl received her undergraduate degree from Barnard College in 1983 and received her Master of Arts in Literature from the University of Queensland in 1985. In addition, she earned her Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School in 1987

Greta Van Susteren:
A graduate of the University of Wisconsin, Van Susteren received a bachelor's degree with distinction in economics. She earned a Juris Doctor from Georgetown Law in 1979 and a Master of Law from the school in 1982. Van Susteren was the first Stuart Stiller Fellow at Georgetown Law Center and was awarded an honorary doctor of laws degree from Stetson Law School. ;
__Leah Gabriel:
A Graduate of the US Naval Academy in Colorado and an ex F-18 pilot on a US Navy Aircraft Carrier.

Diego in Seattle wrote:

Left Seater wrote:Ok wise one, how are jobs created, if businesses and corporations don't add positions?


A former teammate has started a new company in which he helps small businesses and small cities develop their disaster contingency plans. He put everything he owned on the line to get the idea off the ground. The corporation is now in its third year and has 7 employees.

Can't wait to hear who or what is responsible for those 7 new jobs since it isn't the corporation he started.

Neither the 7 new jobs nor the corporation would have been born if not for what?

If the individual did not fill out the corporation registration paperwork required by the government, capitalize his business with HIS OWN FUCKING MONEY, have a viable product or service to bring to the market place, conduct commerce on a daily basis, PAY HIS FUCKING TAXES, on, and on and on, and on.

Left Seater wrote:So you think it is all demand for a product at an affordable price that creates jobs?

Interesting.

You're finally starting to catch on.

Jobs don't get created unless there is a demand for their products, and that demand is capable of affording said product(s).

Who creates corporations to sell stuff that isn't wanted or affordable?

If that is what Hillary and Barry really believe then why is so much of their legislation directed at increasing the cost of goods and services to consumers?

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Who creates corporations to sell stuff that isn't wanted or affordable?

The Federal Government.

Next question.

mvscal wrote:

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Who creates corporations to sell stuff that isn't wanted or affordable?

The Federal Government.

Next question.

See also unfunded mandates.

Derron wrote:

War Wagon wrote:
Fox steals the best talent from other networks, probably because they can afford to pay them twice as much. Howard Kurst being the latest example.

.

"The Dumb Girls" on FOX News, smart, yet smoldering...

For the past 10 years FOX News has had higher ratings and the largest audience numbers (for news and business/political "talk" programs) than all the other TV and Cable news channels combined, which includes: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS!
Some folks claim that FOX's higher ratings are only because FOX purposely hires a lot of female "reporters" who do nothing but sit around in short skirts and merely "read everything off of a teleprompter".
Bottom line: The next time you hear someone criticizing FOX News for supposedly having a "bunch of dumb gals" as eye candy . . . Check out their qualifications...let them speak for themselves!

Brenda Buttner:
She graduated from Harvard University with honors with a bachelor's degree in social studies. Buttner went on to be a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University , where she graduated with high honors and a bachelor's degree in politics and economics.

Shannon Bream:
She is a graduate of Liberty University and earned a Juris Doctorate with honors from Florida State University College of Law.

Gretchen Carlson:
Carlson graduated with honors from Stanford University and also studied at Oxford University in England .

Jamie Colby:
Aside from her journalism career, Colby is an attorney and served in private practice for 10 years. She is an attorney admitted to practice in New York , California , the District of Columbia and Florida . Colby is also a former law professor, a member of Law Review and has been a National Board member of American Women in Radio and Television for the last several years. Attending the University of Miami International School of Business at age 14, she received a Bachelor of Business Administration in accounting as well as her Juris Doctor degree from the University of Miami School of Law at age 22.

Harris Faulkner:
A graduate from the University of California at Santa Barbara with a degree in mass communication.

Jennifer Griffin:
A graduate of Harvard University in 1992, Griffin received a Bachelor’s degree in comparative politics.

Kimberly Guilfoyle:
Guilfoyle is a magna cum laude graduate of University of California , Davis and attended the University of San Francisco School of Law and Trinity College in Dublin , Ireland , where she studied and was published for her research in international children's rights and European Economic Community law.

Molly Henneberg:
Henneberg earned her bachelor's degree from Vanderbilt University , graduating summa cum laude.

Catherine Herridge:
Herridge earned a Bachelor's degree from Harvard College and a Master's degree in journalism from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

Amy Kellogg:
Kellogg began to study Russian at Phillips Academy in Andover , Massachusetts and then received her BA in Soviet Studies from Brown University . She spent a semester at Leningrad State University . She received her Masters from Stanford University in Russian and East European Studies and also speaks Spanish and French.

Megyn Kelly:
Kelly earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Political Science from Syracuse University and a J.D. >From Albany Law School, where she also served as editor of the Albany Law Review.

Jenna Lee:
A graduate of the University of California at Santa Barbara , Lee obtained her master's degree from Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

Molly Line:
Line is a graduate of Virginia Tech where she received her Bachelor of Arts in mass communication and political science.

Dagen McDowell:
A native of Virginia , McDowell graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in art history.

Heather Nauert:
She graduated from Mt. Vernon College in Washington , D.C. , with a bachelor of arts in communications and she received her master’s in journalism from Columbia University . Nauert is also a term member at the Council of Foreign Relations.

Dana Perino:
She graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Mass Communication from Colorado State University-Pueblo and went on to receive a Masters in Public Affairs Reporting from the University of Illinois-Springfield ..

Anita Vogel:
Vogel graduated from the University of Southern California with a Bachelor of Arts degree in broadcast journalism and political science.

Lis Wiehl:
Wiehl received her undergraduate degree from Barnard College in 1983 and received her Master of Arts in Literature from the University of Queensland in 1985. In addition, she earned her Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School in 1987

Greta Van Susteren:
A graduate of the University of Wisconsin, Van Susteren received a bachelor's degree with distinction in economics. She earned a Juris Doctor from Georgetown Law in 1979 and a Master of Law from the school in 1982. Van Susteren was the first Stuart Stiller Fellow at Georgetown Law Center and was awarded an honorary doctor of laws degree from Stetson Law School. ;
__Leah Gabriel:
A Graduate of the US Naval Academy in Colorado and an ex F-18 pilot on a US Navy Aircraft Carrier.

Busted!
http://m.topix.com/forum/city/erie-pa/T71120IKCPDN6MU5I

Moving Sale wrote: Busted!
http://m.topix.com/forum/city/erie-pa/T71120IKCPDN6MU5I

For what ??