Poptart & MVS think Martial Law is Coming

The State · Post by **The State** » Wed May 06, 2015 3:17 am

poptart wrote:
mvscal wrote:He falls back nervously on weak ad hominems and deflections before comforting himself with the scent of the State's anus wafting through his nostrils. He's quite at home on his knees licking boots and thinking the thoughts others have provided for him.

The State wrote:A few years ago, I entered into a debate with a California spokesman for a large "guns rights" advocate organization. My position was that his organization had colluded with the Federal Government to restrict my right to possess large calibre weaponry, getting him to acknowledge that the typical Revolutionary War musket was .75 calibre, and almost all artillery was privately owned. I dare say, suicide vests were used on rare occasion by the winning revolutionaries, and therefore should be available at the local Walmart.

He stormed off our "virtual stage", and refused to comment further on that particular forum.

Happiness Is a Warm Gun.

Game over... freak.

The State · Post by **The State** » Wed May 06, 2015 3:33 am

KC Scott wrote:Miserable people need someone to blame. They need a boogyman to hate. They need something to account for all the failures of their lives. It can be anything of course, except themselves

Rack it !

Look at where those two losers live now.

Too funny.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:24 am

Scott wrote:You're paranoia is laughable but actually sad as you've succumb to a right wing propaganda machine that has you convinced you're eventually going to be enslaved because...... OBAMA

If you were as smart as you think you are, you would recognize that your freedoms have gradually eroded away during your lifetime.
This is not a trend moving in the right direction.
The erosion has escalated very rapidly since Barry was coronated.

You have children.
I do think you should be concerned about what kind of future they are looking at in Amerika.

This Jade Helm nonsense is clearly an example of a government drunk on it's power.
Civilians ought not be exposed to the kind of "war games" they've got planned.

Beyond that obvious reality, statements from the WH that "all is well" does nothing to reassure anyone
Well, anyone with a brain.

You should know the track record of that sorority.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed May 06, 2015 12:03 pm

mvscal wrote: And I'm sure you've noticed he hasn't bothered to refute any of the points that have been raised.

and I'm sure you've noticed the guy has been in office for 6 1/2 years and hasn't done anything that would warrant this type of paranoia.....why would he bother to refute such outlandish claims.....he's only got a year and a half left to start implementing martial law, so he'd better get cracking......

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed May 06, 2015 12:17 pm

Mvscunt taking another ride on the cock carousel. We're not laughing with you, pussy.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed May 06, 2015 12:59 pm

mvscal wrote:And I'm sure you've noticed he hasn't bothered to refute any of the points that have been raised.

Felix wrote:and I'm sure you've noticed the guy has been in office for 6 1/2 years and hasn't done anything that would warrant this type of paranoia.....why would he bother to refute such outlandish claims

Foolix,

Mvscal was talking about KC Scott (not Barry) in that quote you posted.

In the question and answer portion of the presentation, Mead further explains to board members how Jade Helm, a new exercise he describes as also being developed by US Special Operations General Charles T. Cleveland, will now be conducted within the United States annually.

And we also have some of our inter-agency partners, such as the FBI and the DEA, and some of the other agencies assisting us and working with us in the exercise.
Further, Mead points out that the FBI and DEA will be involved in “questioning” individuals.

Annually?
The FBI?
The DEA?
Questioning people?

This is an overseas training exercise?

Oh... okay?

You're good with this, Foolix?

Yeah, good ol' "You can keep your doctor" Barry says it's all just fine.

Tool shed.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 1:38 pm

KC Scott wrote: I've refuted all of them you cock gobbling panty waste -

You have refuted nothing. Jade Helm is a joint law enforcement-military training exercise. They are training to implement martial law and over a large portion of the country at that. That isn't "paranoia." It's a simple, irrefutable fact.

The regular army is prohibited by law from participating in domestic law enforcement activities. Also a simple, irrefutable fact nor does the army actively train for missions it does not anticipate executing. Again...FACT.

It's not "dangerous" or "lunacy" or "paranoid" to question why the armed forces are training for a mission they prohibited by law from executing in the real world.

My concerns and my questions are grounded in fact. Your denials are drowned in emotion and hyperbole and utterly devoid of any factual basis whatsoever.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed May 06, 2015 2:41 pm

Posse Comitatus only applies to the United States. We've had military quelling uprisings overseas since 1900.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 2:49 pm

BSmack wrote:Posse Comitatus only applies to the United States. We've had military quelling uprisings overseas since 1900.

So?

I'm at a loss here maybe you can highlight the role domestic, civilian law enforcement plays in quelling overseas uprisings.

TIA

The State · Post by **The State** » Wed May 06, 2015 3:03 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Mvscunt taking another ride on the cock carousel. We're not laughing with you, pussy.

He loves it so much... he moved to take a lifelong ride on the "cornhole" carousel.

Nothing is quite as disturbing as Mvstard... taking a "Selfie" first thing in the morning on his way to work.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed May 06, 2015 5:30 pm

$cott, you've been "spit-roasted" by Seoul Brother #1 and The Council Bluffs Cowboy.

Grab a towel and hit the...

...showers.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed May 06, 2015 6:25 pm

Screwball looks up spit roast...

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed May 06, 2015 6:29 pm

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 7:22 pm

Urban infiltration? Yes, of course. What could be more discreet than asking people questions in airports. JSOC isn't a covert spy agency, dumbfuck.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 7:36 pm

Oh?

What, exactly, have YOU ever done?

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Wed May 06, 2015 7:40 pm

Nice rainbow colored bar.
You get that for sucking black cock above and beyond the call of duty?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed May 06, 2015 7:54 pm

Rack your rainbow medal ribbon.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:01 pm

I noticed they didn't want to mess with Wisconsin.

:bode:

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed May 06, 2015 8:05 pm

mvscal wrote:Oh?

What, exactly, have YOU ever done?

What is the badge on your epaulette?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed May 06, 2015 8:19 pm

This is going somewhere you won't want it to go...

...and it's all because you have such a fragile ego.

Once more, unto the breach.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:24 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: What is the badge on your epaulette?

It's the regimental crest of the 5th Air Defense Artillery Regiment.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:25 pm

just

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:48 pm

So what was it you were supposed to have done again, Scrote? Anything at all? Shouldn't be too tough what with you being a man of action and all, right?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:51 pm

mvscal wrote:So what was it you were supposed to have done again, Scrote? Anything at all? Shouldn't be too tough what with you being a man of action and all, right?

I believe he and Ucunt have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 06, 2015 9:22 pm

So....nothing. Just talk. Oh, yes and lies.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed May 06, 2015 11:15 pm

Scott wrote:fall for an internet conspiracy theory

What is the supposed conspiracy?
Martial law?
Barry's gonna get us?

Mvscal, myself, or anyone else in the thread, has not articulated any conspiracy -- or any other such gibberish you are carrying on about.

Only ---> YOU <--- have obsessed over these things.

LOL

Brilliant thread, KC Melt.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu May 07, 2015 1:18 am

mvscal wrote:Jade Helm is a joint law enforcement-military TRAINING exercise. They are TRAINING to implement martial law and over a large portion of the country at that. That isn't "paranoia." It's a simple, irrefutable fact.

lol

Melt on, Scotty.

This thread is not your finest hour.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu May 07, 2015 2:28 am

Scott wrote:Martial LawCal wrote what he wrote and your faggy semantics breakdown doesn't change it

Do you somehow deny that the U.S. military (and other agencies) will be TRAINING to implement martial law?
It's obvious.

There are no semantics.
It's just been you, carrying on, flipping out, broad-brushing, and attributing takes to people who have not produced those takes.

You've basically just shit all over the place in here.

I view you as a sad delusional little man, who needs something to blame
for the shortcomings and poor life decisions you've made. Obviously those
decisions have led you to this miserable existence spent complaining about
things out of your control instead of improving those you can

- Scott

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu May 07, 2015 2:40 am

You repeatedly posted that we thought Barry was going to implement martial law -- and that Wal Marts would be used as detention centers, etc.
Attributing "conspiracy" takes to us.
Flying off the walls in here, saying those were our takes, when we said no such thing.

Mvscal (and I) said that Jade Helm will be a TRAINING exercise for implementation of martial law.

1) Training
2) Real thing

Can you understand the difference between the two?

Mvscal and I are not dealing in conspiracy.
We're dealing with what is REAL in front of everyone's face.

So again, do you somehow deny the REALITY that Jade Helm is a TRAINING exercise for martial law implementation?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu May 07, 2015 2:03 pm

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu May 07, 2015 4:33 pm

Could one make a case that a community is collectively the "house" of its members?

If so, guess what?

Regardless, do we really need the government seeing the BoR as an inconvenience, rather than the law of the land?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu May 07, 2015 11:02 pm

Scott wrote:OK, I'll play along......

Describe a scenario in the US that you think would be the catalyst for Martial Law to be imposed

How long would it last?

What would be the end goal?

and what is your timetable for this event to occur?

First, I asked you twice now if you acknowledge that Jade Helm is a training for implementation of Martial Law.
You didn't answer either time, so my assumption is that you do acknowledge that.

This training for Martial Law implementation alone is unacceptable, and it means that none of your questions need be answered.

Why should citizens not balk when it's military (yes, it is the PEOPLE's military) decides it's going to have a massive training operation over multiple states, in civilian territory, involving multiple agencies -- in which implementation of Martial Law is part of the training?

Why is this going on?

As mvscal accurately noted, the military does training for things they are assuming they are going to -----> DO.

This is not a warm and fuzzy thing.

So your questions...

I don't have the answers.
I could speculate, and I DO have some thoughts about what the higher-ups have in mind here, but as I said, it doesn't really matters.

What matters now is that this training is planned to take place, and it's not acceptable.
Just the very fact that OUR military wants to do this is reason enough to say, "No thanks. Take it elsewhere."

I'm not in Tejas and I'm not up to speed on Gov. Abbott's response.
So I can't say whether I agree or disagree with what he's doing.

But I can say with certainty that I disagree with what the military is doing.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri May 08, 2015 1:48 am

Yes, it is training in implementing martial law. That's why the FBI and DEA among others are involved. They certainly aren't required for local coordination. Sorry you're too stupid to figure that out for yourself.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri May 08, 2015 2:58 am

There is SO much wrong with Jade Helm -- and KC Scott, that it boggles the mind.
Hardly know where to begin.

Among the planned exercises, soldiers will try to operate undetected amongst civilian populations in some towns and cities where residents will be advised to report any suspicious activity they notice as a means of testing the military's effectiveness, said county law enforcement officials who had been briefed by the Army.

"They're going to set up cells of people and test how well they're able to move around without getting too noticed in the community," said Roy Boyd, chief deputy with the Victoria County Sheriff's Office. "They're testing their abilities to basically blend in with the local environment and not stand out and blow their cover."

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Cover ... 157685.php

They are training "not to stand out," and yet if this is training for a middle east country(s), by virtue of their ethnicity alone, they are bound to stand out.

Right? lol

They are training to blend in -----> IN AMERICA.

They are training to quietly infiltrate American civilian communities, they will have overhead craft around (helicopters), and they are armed (with blanks :wink: ) in this exercise.

Nothing to see here, folks.

Just a lot of paranoia.

This is just one item.
There is a laundry list of problems with what is going on here.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:24 am

Fucking uncle on this thread.

The head of Joint base San Antonio said this is an excercise to prepare our forces in the ways of martial law.

He followed that up by saying that it was not something they envisioned happening on US soil, but it is far easier to practice such things here than it is in say Bumfuckganistan.

Both of sides in this thread have nuggets of truth and a shit ton of heels dug in.

Oh and the gov is still whacko.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:38 am

It was an audio clip on WOAI news radio 1200 earlier today.

But frigging uncle on this whole thread already.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:43 am

Power corrupts. Add an apathetic population and you have a inextricable march toward totalitarianism or something like it.

Patriot Act? Sure, it make me feel better.
Militarization of the cops? Bring it on.
More power at the top? Sounds good.

These things usually end poorly.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:57 am

poptart wrote:They are training "not to stand out," and yet IF this is training for a middle east country(s), by virtue of their ethnicity alone, they are bound to stand out.

Scott wrote:Who said it's a Middle East county Dumbfuck? How bout a NATO ally?

See the big bold word there?

Sure, maybe it's a NATO ally.
Possible.

That said, it in no way justifies the described training.

Moving Bowel is correct.

Scott wrote:pissing their pants

Something you've done in this thread from the time you started it -- and now even to the point of changing your thread title.
More bogus takes attributed to those with a different view than yours.

I've seldom seen such a hysterical bitch performance on this board.

Get a grip, dude.
lol

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:05 am

KC Scott wrote:OK, I'll play along......

Describe a scenario in the US that you think would be the catalyst for Martial Law to be imposed

I was not commenting on the possibility that this exercise is in preparation for implementation of martial law. I was giving you a scenario in the U.S. that I thought would be a catalyst for implementation of martial law. Every indicator points towards the Federal gov (that would be the national government and the state government) taking more power. Do YOU have any indicators that show there is an end point before martial law?

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:35 am

Today is the day you pick to suck the patriot act's nuts?
http://reason.com/blog/2015/05/07/court ... allow-mass

Is it your position that the gov has less power than it did last year or last decade or last century or that it is somehow the same over any of those periods?

KC Scott wrote: You mean giving Govt the power to identify potential terrorists and plots?

Oh wait. Never mind.