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No what I do all day is read police reports* and then see if they match the dash cam or the autopsy** or the crime scene itself or the other witness statements or any alibi or ballistics or blood spatter and on and on. I also talk to cops and CHP and sheriffs and DAs and judges and COs and probation and parole everyday. I cross examine them all the time. I listen to their interviews. I joke and talk shit to them (I don't talk shit to judges) everyday. Literally 3/4 of my workday is spent talking to them and reading their reports and crossing them and researching the validity of their position. Would you care to try AGAIN?

*They number in the thousands.

** Over 400 at this point.

Moving Sale wrote:No what I do all day is read police reports* and then see if they match the dash cam or the autopsy** or the crime scene itself or the other witness statements or any alibi or ballistics or blood spatter and on and on. I also talk to cops and CHP and sheriffs and DAs and judges and COs and probation and parole everyday. I cross examine them all the time. I listen to their interviews. I joke and talk shit to them (I don't talk shit to judges) everyday. Literally 3/4 of my workday is spent talking to them and reading their reports and crossing them and researching the validity of their position. Would you care to try AGAIN?

*They number in the thousands.

** Over 400 at this point.

Then I suggest you go talk to these cops you allegedly know & ask them about this. Your statements scream naivete when it comes to dealing with situations like this.

Moving Sale wrote:I know he didn't need a gun because I saw the video, I know he is riding the pine so I know his boss has questions about his behavior and he didn't use it so therefore we know he didn't need it.

He is riding the pine because right now, that is a smart thing to do to just let the situation calm down.

Did the cop have to pull his gun? Maybe not, but, pulling it caused an impending threat to piss down its leg and run. This is what you want it to do. If the thugs had remained engaged, only bad shit could have happened. Would you have been happier if he just tased/pepper sprayed the dude?

And if the officer would have used his baton there still would have been massive bleating about police abuse due to the resulting injuries.

I will admit one mistake on my part. The officer is a corporal, not a sargeant (corporal is a rank that's hardly used on the west coast, if at all).

Diego in Seattle wrote: Then I suggest you go talk to these cops you allegedly know & ask them about this. Your statements scream naivete when it comes to dealing with situations like this.

I did. None have defended it so far. A couple were in agreement with a but most just shrugged it off.
If the officer would have stood up as he did but with a baton those two guy still would have ran and we wouldn't even have seen this vid and the juiced up badge monkey would not be riding the pine right now.

smackaholic wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:I know he didn't need a gun because I saw the video, I know he is riding the pine so I know his boss has questions about his behavior and he didn't use it so therefore we know he didn't need it.

He is riding the pine because right now, that is a smart thing to do to just let the situation calm down.

Did the cop have to pull his gun? Maybe not, but, pulling it caused an impending threat to piss down its leg and run. This is what you want it to do. If the thugs had remained engaged, only bad shit could have happened. Would you have been happier if he just tased/pepper sprayed the dude?

You don't think they would have pissed and ran he if stood up with a less than lethal weapon in his hand?

Moving Sale wrote: None of those people needed to be killed,

And none of them were killed. The only thing he did wrong was lose his composure.

With a fucking gun in his hand. His loss of composure is all the more reason he shouldn't have pulled out a gun.

Yes, he drew his weapon. BFD. He was correct to do so under the circumstances.

Maybe he's a Barney Fyfe and has the bullet in his shirt pocket.

He didn't get benched for doing the right thing you stupid fucking racist.

He got benched because of a bunch of whiny niqqer bitches. He will be reinstated because he did nothing wrong except make a bit of an ass of himself.

No, babs, he got "benched" and is in deep shit because he went nuts. From the absurd dive-and-roll number while chasing teens without swimming badges, to screaming like a PMS Catholic nun teacher, to throwing the young (hot) girl to the ground--and then yelling "get on the ground"--and then sitting on her like some conquering Mongol in a Khazak village, to pulling his gun as though he was in some violent situation in the first place. As for his ridiculous lecturing to the handcuffed kids, well this is just him exercising his right to be an asshole.

Moving Sale wrote:He didn't get benched for doing the right thing you stupid fucking racist.

Yeah, police administrators never take actions that are politically motivated.

And go fuck yourself if you think the officer resigned because he was guilty. A lot of officers are questioning their career choices in today's climate, ones who aren't even involved in any controversial incidents. And those who are employed by departments that are royally fucked up (like Baltimore) are trying to find other agencies to lateral to. It's quickly becoming apparent that all the bullshit going on these days on top of the normal stresses of the job are making it impossible to put up with the job.

Go get a POST certificate & do the job for a few years. Then you're welcome to be as critical as you are. Until then you're just a naive little ambulance chaser who thinks he knows more about the job than those who do it.

LTS TRN 2 wrote: From the absurd dive-and-roll number while chasing teens...

He tripped. I'm sure him feeling like a complete tool for eating shit while in "hot pursuit" was the proximate cause of his subsequent meltdown. He was overcompensating in order to restore his aura of "authoritah." He talks about being pissed off about chasing those "undocumented swimmers" with 30 lbs of gear on. Yes, damn gear...it'll make you trip every time. Who knows? He might have even been gripped in the throes of a full blown, steroid pumped psychotic episode. His veins surging with chemical rage and brain racing with ideological fervor he simply outran his own meager baseline athletic ability and then...........well nothing much really. Nobody got hurt. No bodies. No blood. No bruises. What are we even talking about here?

Let's not lose side of the fact that we are talking about enforcing law and order. The law is murky at best as any lawyer will tell you. Order can be...messy. Yes, felchie, if a police officer orders you to stay put and you run, he is permitted to detain you with reasonable force. If a police officer screams at you, "Get the fuck out of here!!" multiple times he really isn't asking. You should consider it an invitation. He has done a quick mental triage and determined that you are not part of the problem. Leave and you are out of the equation. Return and you become part of the problem. You overload the problem solving ability of the average badge monkey at your peril. You might even find yourself manhandled as a result.

Well one thing was for sure, those crazy monkeys sure scattered when did that, so it was pretty effective.

Now there are vids emerging with how it all started and escalated before the cops even arrived, so they walked into an already violent situation.

mvscal wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote: From the absurd dive-and-roll number while chasing teens...

He tripped. I'm sure him feeling like a complete tool for eating shit while in "hot pursuit" was the proximate cause of his subsequent meltdown. He was overcompensating in order to restore his aura of "authoritah." He talks about being pissed off about chasing those "undocumented swimmers" with 30 lbs of gear on. Yes, damn gear...it'll make you trip every time. Who knows? He might have even been gripped in the throes of a full blown, steroid pumped psychotic episode. His veins surging with chemical rage and brain racing with ideological fervor he simply outran his own meager baseline athletic ability and then...........well nothing much really. Nobody got hurt. No bodies. No blood. No bruises. What are we even talking about here?

Let's not lose side of the fact that we are talking about enforcing law and order. The law is murky at best as any lawyer will tell you. Order can be...messy. Yes, felchie, if a police officer orders you to stay put and you run, he is permitted to detain you with reasonable force. If a police officer screams at you, "Get the fuck out of here!!" multiple times he really isn't asking. You should consider it an invitation. He has done a quick mental triage and determined that you are not part of the problem. Leave and you are out of the equation. Return and you become part of the problem. You overload the problem solving ability of the average badge monkey at your peril. You might even find yourself manhandled as a result.

Nice spin job, babs..

And THEN...he resigned...

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

mvscal wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote: From the absurd dive-and-roll number while chasing teens...

He tripped. I'm sure him feeling like a complete tool for eating shit while in "hot pursuit" was the proximate cause of his subsequent meltdown. He was overcompensating in order to restore his aura of "authoritah." He talks about being pissed off about chasing those "undocumented swimmers" with 30 lbs of gear on. Yes, damn gear...it'll make you trip every time. Who knows? He might have even been gripped in the throes of a full blown, steroid pumped psychotic episode. His veins surging with chemical rage and brain racing with ideological fervor he simply outran his own meager baseline athletic ability and then...........well nothing much really. Nobody got hurt. No bodies. No blood. No bruises. What are we even talking about here?

Let's not lose side of the fact that we are talking about enforcing law and order. The law is murky at best as any lawyer will tell you. Order can be...messy. Yes, felchie, if a police officer orders you to stay put and you run, he is permitted to detain you with reasonable force. If a police officer screams at you, "Get the fuck out of here!!" multiple times he really isn't asking. You should consider it an invitation. He has done a quick mental triage and determined that you are not part of the problem. Leave and you are out of the equation. Return and you become part of the problem. You overload the problem solving ability of the average badge monkey at your peril. You might even find yourself manhandled as a result.

Nice spin job, babs..

And THEN...he resigned...

That's funny you sick little retard? I think he is doing it for the good of the community that he was serving. I'm sure he is packing his family up and moving out of the area to get away from the street apes that are making death threats. Rumor has it that he has already been offed positions well away from that shit hole.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

mvscal wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote: From the absurd dive-and-roll number while chasing teens...

He tripped. I'm sure him feeling like a complete tool for eating shit while in "hot pursuit" was the proximate cause of his subsequent meltdown. He was overcompensating in order to restore his aura of "authoritah." He talks about being pissed off about chasing those "undocumented swimmers" with 30 lbs of gear on. Yes, damn gear...it'll make you trip every time. Who knows? He might have even been gripped in the throes of a full blown, steroid pumped psychotic episode. His veins surging with chemical rage and brain racing with ideological fervor he simply outran his own meager baseline athletic ability and then...........well nothing much really. Nobody got hurt. No bodies. No blood. No bruises. What are we even talking about here?

Let's not lose side of the fact that we are talking about enforcing law and order. The law is murky at best as any lawyer will tell you. Order can be...messy. Yes, felchie, if a police officer orders you to stay put and you run, he is permitted to detain you with reasonable force. If a police officer screams at you, "Get the fuck out of here!!" multiple times he really isn't asking. You should consider it an invitation. He has done a quick mental triage and determined that you are not part of the problem. Leave and you are out of the equation. Return and you become part of the problem. You overload the problem solving ability of the average badge monkey at your peril. You might even find yourself manhandled as a result.

Nice spin job, babs..

And THEN...he resigned...

You mean like Darren Wilson did before the Grand Jury came back with a No Bill?

And let's see how well you could run & keep your balance with 30-40 lbs of equipment on your belt...assuming you can even run.

Here's a good explanation of the justification for the officer's actions:

It's an upscale community. The cop is a fascist punk, emboldened with a badge and a gun. His behavior was comically incompetent and embarrassing to legitimate police officers everywhere. And not that it matters, but there's no way he's carrying 30-lbs of gear. He's on some Iraq fantasy. And now there's just the huge payout to the hot chick in the yellow bikini.

LTS TRN 2 wrote: And THEN...he resigned...

OK, I'll play. And? Ever quit a job that sucked before? You think being a cop might be one of those jobs that sucks? I do. Can you really blame a cop for saying, "Hey, you know what? This job sucks. Fuck you and you and you. You can't fire me. I FUKKEN QUIT"?

Seriously, who signs up to chase a pack of howler monkeys around a HOA pool in the summer? At some point you gotta get too old for that shit, right? Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

Ok....who stole mvscal's password?

mvscal wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote: And THEN...he resigned...

OK, I'll play. And? Ever quit a job that sucked before? You think being a cop might be one of those jobs that sucks? I do. Can you really blame a cop for saying, "Hey, you know what? This job sucks. Fuck you and you and you. You can't fire me. I FUKKEN QUIT"?

Seriously, who signs up to chase a pack of howler monkeys around a HOA pool in the summer? At some point you gotta get too old for that shit, right? Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

Quality take, babs. Glad to hear you like jazz. As for his quitting, uh, no, he was pushed. He'll enjoy his benefits and no doubt feel sorry for himself, justifying his (medicated?) clown act to whoever will listen. Granted, it's all comedy--no one was shot. Unlike the unindicted psycho lunatic cop in Cleveland who lept up on the unarmed--and already shot 80 times--suspect's car and pumped 15 shots right down through the windshield. This is the real threat for which this pool party nonsense provides some comic relief.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Unlike the unindicted psycho lunatic cop in Cleveland who lept up on the unarmed--and already shot 80 times--suspect's car and pumped 15 shots right down through the windshield.

Yes, well that does sound a bit over-enthusiastic. I think I must have missed this episode. Mind bringing me up to speed?

Sort of like those Blackwater psychos in Iraq..

He was actually charged it seems, but the judge went rogue..
http://reason.com/blog/2015/05/23/cleve ... el-brelo-s

mvscal wrote:Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

swoon


Uncle "Arch Angel" Tom

mvscal wrote:Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

Diego in Seattle wrote:

mvscal wrote:Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

Why do pedophiles take everything so literally ???

So to recap this little piggy's actions were "indefensible" according to his boss.

He was thrown under a bus by his boss due to political pressure. Not the first, and won't be the last (in this environment I would expect it to happen more often).

Ought to be real interesting to see people wailing & bleating when the chickens come home to roost.

The State wrote:

mvscal wrote:Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

swoon


Uncle "Arch Angel" Tom

And who the fuck are you to be throwing around Uncle Tom balsts? Are you even balck?

Diego in Seattle wrote:He was thrown under a bus by his boss due to political pressure. Not the first, and won't be the last (in this environment I would expect it to happen more often).

Ought to be real interesting to see people wailing & bleating when the chickens come home to roost.

Yea it's the chief's fault. You don't even believ in personal responsibility did you?

Diego in Seattle wrote:Ok....who stole mvscal's password?

I did. He loaned it to me. That is not him speaking.

The State wrote:

mvscal wrote:Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

swoon


Uncle "Arch Angel" Tom

Which fucking troll that got banned for you to get another toon you fucking piece of white trash. Pickle?

I lost three calories typing that and I already feel like I am talking to a waste of human being.

mvscal wrote:

Moving Sale wrote: None of those people needed to be killed,

And none of them were killed. The only thing he did wrong was lose his composure.

And that is what got him in trouble.

Now, the question remains if they went to the pool uninvited, he is not in the wrong except being overzealous pulling his weapon. If the kids were invited then the white bitches who called 911 has some explaining to do.

Moving Sale wrote:

smackaholic wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:I know he didn't need a gun because I saw the video, I know he is riding the pine so I know his boss has questions about his behavior and he didn't use it so therefore we know he didn't need it.

He is riding the pine because right now, that is a smart thing to do to just let the situation calm down.

Did the cop have to pull his gun? Maybe not, but, pulling it caused an impending threat to piss down its leg and run. This is what you want it to do. If the thugs had remained engaged, only bad shit could have happened. Would you have been happier if he just tased/pepper sprayed the dude?

You don't think they would have pissed and ran he if stood up with a less than lethal weapon in his hand?

There is no way of knowing what they would have done. There is a fair chance they would have stood there and antagonized the cop further knowing that a blast of pepper spray, knotted up dome or a good tasing on video, may well have lead to a payday.

If you don't think these punks aren't thinking this as they scrap with the cops, you may be even stupider than I thought.

Thugs used to fear cops and it was much better that way.

Arch Angel wrote:

The State wrote:

mvscal wrote:Can those jigs even swim for fuck's sake?

swoon


Uncle "Arch Angel" Tom

Which fucking troll that got banned for you to get another toon you fucking piece of white trash. Pickle?

I lost three calories typing that and I already feel like I am talking to a waste of human being.

Hi Arch. Guessing you're not a member of Young, Gifted and Black. One out of three isn't going to get you in the door.

The cop was guilty.

Of not removing the black gal's swim suit just to make certain there were no concealed weapons.

Arch;
It was a HOA pool. Do you think there just might be a rule about inviting dozens of guests at a single time to the pool w/o prior authorization?

moving bowel;
You're accusing someone else of not believing in personal responsibility?
You're the last person who should be making that accusation.