Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:34 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
trev wrote:A hunger strike and a trip to the salon for a makeover would do her some good.
I find it incredibly hard to believe this woman had enough guys lining up for her to get married four times. Unreal.

I think the second and fourth were the same guy, so it was really only three. But then again it says something that the guy must have realized he couldn't live without that sweet thang.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:57 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote: I find it incredibly hard to believe this woman had enough guys lining up for her to get married four times. Unreal.
I can't thank you enough for excluding a swipe at me from this post. :grin:

We're friends now, bro. Also, I'm sure your three, or four?, wives were much, much hotter than this broad.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:32 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Sudden Sam wrote: I can't thank you enough for excluding a swipe at me from this post. :grin:
We're friends now, bro.

Wait...what?

When did this happen? Why am I always the last to know?

A simple PM would have been nice.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:54 pm

R-Jack wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote: I find it incredibly hard to believe this woman had enough guys lining up for her to get married four times. Unreal.
Kentucky.

We had someone like that here on T1B, but I believe her posting privileges were revoked...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:51 pm

88 wrote:
BSmack wrote:
poptart wrote:She got put in jail?

Obviously a very dangerous person.

Nope. Just an asshole found in contempt of court.
For refusing to act in violation of her faith (and in a way that was different than when she ran for office and despite the fact that not 1 person in this country cast a vote to change any laws).

And about an issue that affects her in no material way. Sign the papers. It is a contract, nothing more.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:39 pm

And now it looks like all of her minion sans her son are fine with doing their damn jobs and so a crisis has been averted.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:56 am

Moving Sale wrote:And now it looks like all of her minion sans her son are fine with doing their damn jobs and so a crisis has been averted.

That's if they're legally recognized. Her atty is saying that they aren't valid due to her signature not being on the licenses. It's easy to understand their willingness to issue the licenses if they knew that they wouldn't be valid.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:49 am

88 wrote:Or that people in Rowan County had to go to an adjacent county for a marriage license

According to google, the fee in Kentucky for a marriage license is $35-$37. I doubt losing this fee
will break the budget, but it is $$ lost for the county no matter. Also, what cost has this whole
circus been for the county? At its very least, it has been a huge waste of office productivity.
And what about right now? Is piggy still being paid to sit in the pokey? Money talks, and
bullshit walks.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:57 am

kcdave wrote: At its very least, it has been a huge waste of office productivity.

We are talking the gubmint hackorama here. Office productivity is irrelevant.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:44 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:Her atty is saying that they aren't valid due to her signature not being on the licenses.

They aren't valid because there is currently no statutory basis for any county clerk in the State of Kentucky to issue a marriage license to anybody nor will there be until the Kentucky legislature convenes in session to amend the statute to comply with the court's ruling.

Sorry, your gay fucking wedding will have to wait until January 5th at least.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:16 pm

They should skip the wedding, the reception, the smearing of wedding cake on the groom's face by the groom, the tipping of the coat-check girl at the hall, the tin cans or used condoms or whatever tied to the bumper of their Prius...and just proceed directly to the sodomy and making of marble cake.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:19 pm

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:30 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:...and just proceed directly to the sodomy and making of ~~marble~~ asshole cake.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:32 pm

I've suddenly lost my appetite.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:52 pm

rack marty and mvscal.

was listening to wilkow today about this topic. he is quite libertarian and believes that the answer is to get government completely out of the wedding licensing biz, but he did make a valid point. if this bitch is going to be locked up for ignoring the law, when are all the sanctuary city law ignorers going to be locked up?

seems like a whole lotta selective enforcement going on here.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:03 pm

And what is the source of that contempt? Did she just walk into a courtroom and tell the judge to go fukk himself?

No, she did not.

She was dragged into court because she chose to not follow a law. The biggest difference here, is you can at least make an argument for the validity of said law. In the case of sanctuary cities, there is no dispute. The local government is blatantly ignoring federal statute.

You could at least show a modicum of consistency here, chip, but consistency is not the strong suit of libtard. Every fukking thing with you guys is situational.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:22 pm

I agree with everything you said. My point was that the feds are selective in their prosecution of law breakers. Despite what Obama and his minions have been spouting, we actually do have a set of laws on the book regarding immigration. They go on about how this system is "broken". The system is "broken" not because it is unworkable. It is broken because it is being ignored. This douche in Kentucky is guilty of doing exactly the same thing. She is chosing to ignore federal regulations. So why is she locked away while the authorities look the other way when it suits their politics?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:28 pm

Smackaholic, I agree that those city officials should be prosecuted.

But at the same time I have to wonder if you bitch & moan when you get pulled over for speeding "why did you stop me?! Look at all those other speeders!"

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:33 pm

Absolute shit analogy, diego.

Others around me not being pulled over is just the luck of the draw. Now, if I had evidence that he was pulling me over based on my political beliefs, you can g0d dam well bet I would bitch.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:51 pm

You can bitch about those cities not being prosecuted, but not Davis being tossed in jail. Just because others break the law is no excuse for you to break the law.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:59 pm

You just don't get it, do you?

I have already said this bitch got what was coming.

My problem is with the fact that the thugs in DC only prosecute when they feel like it.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:30 am

smackaholic wrote:You just don't get it, do you?

I have already said this bitch got what was coming.

My problem is with the fact that the thugs in DC only prosecute when they feel like it.

Then it sounds like we're in agreement.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:31 am

mvscal wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:Her atty is saying that they aren't valid due to her signature not being on the licenses.
They aren't valid because there is currently no statutory basis for any county clerk in the State of Kentucky to issue a marriage license to anybody nor will there be until the Kentucky legislature convenes in session to amend the statute to comply with the court's ruling.

Sorry, your gay fucking wedding will have to wait until January 5th at least.

I didn't know that. My Bad. Then no clerk in Kentucky should be issuing any licenses and no contempt should be sustained and she shouldn't even lose her job till she refuses to enforce a VALID law. Good catch.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:39 am

88 wrote:

What a cliche.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:10 am

So when everyone isn't campaigning for personal freedom. they're twitching curtains and gossiping about neighbours.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:33 pm

Moving Sale wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:Her atty is saying that they aren't valid due to her signature not being on the licenses.
They aren't valid because there is currently no statutory basis for any county clerk in the State of Kentucky to issue a marriage license to anybody nor will there be until the Kentucky legislature convenes in session to amend the statute to comply with the court's ruling.

Sorry, your gay fucking wedding will have to wait until January 5th at least.
I didn't know that. My Bad. Then no clerk in Kentucky should be issuing any licenses and no contempt should be sustained and she shouldn't even lose her job till she refuses to enforce a VALID law. Good catch.

A "minor detail" that seems to have gotten overlooked in the dust up caused by her idiotic and legally irrelevant religious objections. She could use a smarter lawyer, too.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:00 pm

Go Coogs' wrote:
88 wrote:

What a cliche.

Not really. I've don't think Polo ever sponsored the Miss Kentucky beauty pageant.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:33 pm

mvscal wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:Her atty is saying that they aren't valid due to her signature not being on the licenses.
They aren't valid because there is currently no statutory basis for any county clerk in the State of Kentucky to issue a marriage license to anybody nor will there be until the Kentucky legislature convenes in session to amend the statute to comply with the court's ruling.

Wrong, numbnuts.

SCOTUS didn't strike down the whole law regarding marriage. The only struck down the part that references gender.

Page 23 of the majority decision:

"Baker v. Nelson must be and now is overruled, and the State laws challenged by Petitioners in these cases are now held invalid to the extent they exclude same-sex couples from civil marriage on the same terms and conditions as opposite-sex couples."

Your wife should give you extra lashings for your latest outburst of stupidity.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:45 pm

Uhh Diego do you know Kentucky law and how they wrote these laws?

Some states don't don't just add a law limiting marriages based on sex. They completely rewrote the laws from waiting to licenses to fees etc.

There are a few lawsuits now that are claiming some states shouldn't be issuing any marriage licenses at all because their state laws have been invalidated as per the SCOTUS decision.

I don't know if KY is one who completely rewrote theirs but this would seems to give credence to mvscal's take.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:50 pm

They didn't rewrite it so the law as it stands is invalid. There may be a possibility of severance, but I'm not sure how that would work given the wording of the statute.

Her attorney is probably playing the religion angle for the pub, not because he is stupid.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:30 pm

Moving Sale wrote:They didn't rewrite it so the law as it stands is invalid. There may be a possibility of severance, but I'm not sure how that would work given the wording of the statute.

Her attorney is probably playing the religion angle for the pub, not because he is stupid.

I considered severability but I don't how you can make an argument in favor with a straight face.

402.005 Definition of marriage.
As used and recognized in the law of the Commonwealth, "marriage" refers only to the civil status, condition, or relation of one (1) man and one (1) woman united in law for life, for the discharge to each other and the community of the duties legally incumbent upon those whose association is founded on the distinction of sex.
Effective: July 15, 1998
History: Created 1998 Ky. Acts ch. 258, sec. 4, effective July 15, 1998.

A majority of SCOTUS has ruled that this definition of marriage is unconstitutional. If you sever the definition, what you have left is a series of procedures for the certification and administration of something which has no legal definition under law. What, exactly, is a county clerk supposed to be certifying? It doesn't stand up without it.

I think it's mostly a timing issue due to the legislature being out of session.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:39 pm

Congratulations Mike Huckabee - you're no longer the fattest fuck in the room.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:33 pm

Mikey wrote:Congratulations Mike Huckabee - you're no longer the fattest fuck in the room.

Hopefully this prisoner he helped get free won't murder another four police officers.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:19 pm

If she was black the press would never report it.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:59 pm

They cancelled school so that she could be let out. I guess the lesson on killing & skinning squirrels will have to wait until tomorrow.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:59 pm

It may be me....but it looks like Frank Underwood really let himself go.

trev · Post by **trev** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:59 pm

Who is the hillbilly in the straw hat? Good Lord, there is so much wrong with this group of people.

I saw a moment of the press conference and it was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:31 pm

trev wrote:Who is the hillbilly in the straw hat?

That's her fourth husband. Thank God she's upholding the sanctity of marriage.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:32 pm

trev wrote:Who is the hillbilly in the straw hat? Good Lord, there is so much wrong with this group of people.

I saw a moment of the press conference and it was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

But they think and vote just like you.

sin
Papa Willie

trev · Post by **trev** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:44 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
trev wrote:Who is the hillbilly in the straw hat?
That's her fourth husband. Thank God she's upholding the sanctity of marriage.

The fact that he dressed that way for the picture frightens me.