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Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:35 pm
by Moving Sale
Left Seater wrote: Wrong. It is my understand that the hostages were released after the cash was handed over. If this is incorrect please hit me up with something proving otherwise.

But as until the hostages were released we shouldn't have paid a dime to Iran. I don't care what was previously agreed to or if there was a contract. Taking hostages is breach of contract in my book.
Im not sure what your complaint is. Almost every settlement has some drag time on one side or the other.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:34 am
by mvscal
Moving Sale wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Shut the fuck up, moron. The deal was made by the Carter Administration to supply aircraft to the Shah's government and the deal was stopped by the Carter administration after the revolution, you gibbering fuck puddle.
Also known as breach of contract.
The contract was with the Shah's government.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:30 am
by Moving Sale
So what?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:39 am
by Left Seater
Moving Sale wrote:
Left Seater wrote: Wrong. It is my understand that the hostages were released after the cash was handed over. If this is incorrect please hit me up with something proving otherwise.

But as until the hostages were released we shouldn't have paid a dime to Iran. I don't care what was previously agreed to or if there was a contract. Taking hostages is breach of contract in my book.
Im not sure what your complaint is. Almost every settlement has some drag time on one side or the other.
Wrong. Taking hostages isn't drag time. It changes the playing field completely and not only move the goal posts but destroys them.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:29 am
by Moving Sale
Wtf are you talking about? They had our people, we had their money and we switched, albeit not at the exact same time. I still don't get what your problem with this is other than Obama was president when it happened.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:26 am
by Dr_Phibes
Weird thread for this board. I've haggled for things I've needed and paid with cash. Sure there's no tax but you get what you want and no one gets hurt.

I'm guessing no one on this board lives in a large city? Too many lawyers in this thread, not enough haberdashers.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:02 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Dr_Phibes wrote:Sure there's no tax but you get what you want and no one gets hurt.
That's actually the inscription on my Uncle Izzy's headstone.

:o

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:44 pm
by Left Seater
Moving Sale wrote:Wtf are you talking about? They had our people, we had their money and we switched, albeit not at the exact same time. I still don't get what your problem with this is other than Obama was president when it happened.
Nice Strawman. Yes Obama is in the WH, but I wouldn't agree with this regardless of who made the decision. Timing is everything here just like it is in most business or other transactions. You have said you require payment up front from your clients. There is a reason you do that. You take payment then you do your lawyering. Same thing here.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:10 pm
by Moving Sale
Yes payment first. So what's your problem again?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:26 pm
by The Big Pickle
Moving Sale wrote:Yes payment first. So what's your problem again?

R A N S O M!!!!

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:30 pm
by Left Seater
You clearly are not this dense. So are you making such a big deal out of this just to defend the WH? Sure seems that way.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:37 pm
by mvscal
Moving Sale wrote:So what?
So one party to the contract dissolved. The contract is null. That's what.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:05 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Look, Koch whore, (yer new nic, it's official) just because the government changed, the contract was between the nation of Iran, not the particular leader. That is, it wasn't from the Shah's private stolen horde of billions that the $400 million came, but from the national treasury. And therefore the money belongs to the nation of Iran regardless of who's in office.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:26 pm
by mvscal
And that's where you're totally fucking wrong. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:17 pm
by Moving Sale
Left Seater wrote:You clearly are not this dense. So are you making such a big deal out of this just to defend the WH? Sure seems that way.
Im not making a big deal about it. Did you see me start a thread on it?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:10 am
by Moving Sale
mvscal wrote:And that's where you're totally fucking wrong. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
You are an idiot.

Dames & Moore v. Regan, 453 U.S. 654 (1981)

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:03 am
by Dr_Phibes
mvscal wrote:. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
So how do you reconcile a dictatorship with a violent uprising? Under whose sanction? Governments come and go, but the state remains.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:12 am
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:And that's where you're totally fucking wrong. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
C'mon, Koch whore, let's remember that the bulk of sanctions--i.e., stealing their money--came as some sort of snide attachment to our own heinous sponsored war upon Iran. You don't dare to defend the disgusting Dulles brothers imperialist design any more than you can actually defend the Koch brothers demented "libertarian" agenda. You are so.....fucking...disgusting...
and yes, that means you, bris-juice, because you are Koch whore, and always have been--as well as the pathetic "Euroclone" idiocy.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:57 pm
by mvscal
Moving Sale wrote:
mvscal wrote:And that's where you're totally fucking wrong. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
You are an idiot.

Dames & Moore v. Regan, 453 U.S. 654 (1981)
No help there. In fact you just kicked your own ass. Had there been a lawful transition of power, there would be no need for an international tribunal to arbitrate claims arising from that unlawful transition since those contracts would have continued in force. The fact that American entities were suing to recover monies owed is a clear indicator that the revolutionary government repudiated contracts with American interests and that we reciprocated.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:59 pm
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
mvscal wrote:And that's where you're totally fucking wrong. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
C'mon, Koch whore, let's remember that the bulk of sanctions--i.e., stealing their money--came as some sort of snide attachment to our own heinous sponsored war upon Iran. You don't dare to defend the disgusting Dulles brothers imperialist design any more than you can actually defend the Koch brothers demented "libertarian" agenda. You are so.....fucking...disgusting...
and yes, that means you, bris-juice, because you are Koch whore, and always have been--as well as the pathetic "Euroclone" idiocy.
The who? Trump kicked the Koch Bros in the twat and sent those pathetic cucks packing along with their clown car of dickless betas.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:01 pm
by mvscal
Dr_Phibes wrote:
mvscal wrote:. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
So how do you reconcile a dictatorship with a violent uprising? Under whose sanction? Governments come and go, but the state remains.
Who says we have to? We have no obligation to recognize the legitimacy of the Islamic Republic of Iran either diplomatically or otherwise.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:13 pm
by Moving Sale
Yeah they set up a tribunal to exclusively decide our claims against them and not vice versa.
Now go suck Trump's orange cock.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:18 pm
by mvscal
Yes, that's pretty much exactly what it was about. We have all the leverage and Bath House Barry the Kenyan Rent Boy gave it away for nothing. That's what he does.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:36 pm
by Moving Sale
Which is why the tribunal settled billions of dollars claims against us before Obama ever became pres.
How does the tiny handed vulgarian's cock taste in your mouth you vapid racist fuck?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:32 am
by mvscal
Moving Sale wrote:Which is why the tribunal settled billions of dollars claims against us before Obama ever became pres.
Other way around, you fucking idiot.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:34 am
by Moving Sale
Yeah except thats not what happened. Once again you are full of shit.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:14 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Did you wytch that yourself, Tubby?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:01 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
mvscal wrote:And that's where you're totally fucking wrong. Had there been some orderly and/or lawful transition of power, you might have a point but there wasn't and you don't.
C'mon, Koch whore, let's remember that the bulk of sanctions--i.e., stealing their money--came as some sort of snide attachment to our own heinous sponsored war upon Iran. You don't dare to defend the disgusting Dulles brothers imperialist design any more than you can actually defend the Koch brothers demented "libertarian" agenda. You are so.....fucking...disgusting...
and yes, that means you, bris-juice, because you are Koch whore, and always have been--as well as the pathetic "Euroclone" idiocy.
The who? Trump kicked the Koch Bros in the twat and sent those pathetic cucks packing along with their clown car of dickless betas.
Huh? Are you attempting to squirm your way into some new pretend world of fresh denials? Look, for several years you have marched in loyal lock-step with every single attitude and issue that the Koch brothers relentlessly pursue. You are the most classic Koch whore I've ever seen. You are a vigorous droning horn of denial on the subject of Climate Change, the principle agenda of the Kochs and their various fake "institutes," and you similarly mouth the empty slogans of "libertariansim," just like them. And like them you display a barely hidden admiration for Nazis and all things fascistic.

And now you're suggesting that Trump has "kicked them" somehow? No, Koch whore, the truth is that they were properly repelled by him and have themselves chosen to regard him as a political leper. That you would, in your weirdly passive aggressive manner, actually support and promote the utterly fatuous and fake Trump is not surprising, given your own fake head space. But that you would abandon your actual toxic nest of Koch brother pathology indicates that--like Trump--you're falling apart. Why are we not surprised?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:33 pm
by The Seer
Moving Sale wrote:Wtf are you talking about? They had our people

"Since 'The Wizard of Oz,' the short-in-stature have flocked to L.A., where work can be found in jobs ranging from human lawn jockey to mini Donald Trump. But the recent death of a 4-foot-1 cabaret act known as 'Mini Kim Kardashian' reveals the uncomfortable reality of how slowly things have evolved since the days of the freak show."

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:28 pm
by Moving Sale
The Seer wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:Wtf are you talking about? They had our people

"Since 'The Wizard of Oz,' the short-in-stature have flocked to L.A., where work can be found in jobs ranging from human lawn jockey to mini Donald Trump. But the recent death of a 4-foot-1 cabaret act known as 'Mini Kim Kardashian' reveals the uncomfortable reality of how slowly things have evolved since the days of the freak show."
How is third grade treating you?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:56 pm
by Arch Angel
Moving Fail.

Quit posting.

When we read your shit, we become dumber each time.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:10 pm
by Moving Sale
Care to provide any specifics you fucking douche?

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:18 pm
by smackaholic
I think Arch is right. I used to think it was just early onset alzheimers.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:27 pm
by Moving Sale
Do tell.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:13 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
wtf?????

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Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:41 am
by LTS TRN 2
The useless puke of Bris-juice and Fat Fuck, their childish squirms, are an affront to anything that might be called human or alive.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exc ... ssed-iran/

The utter malignancy of the neocon coup, as it has engulfed the world since the New Pearl Harbor of 9/11, speaks for itself...

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WW

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:48 pm
by Moving Sale
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The useless puke of Bris-juice and Fat Fuck, their childish squirms, are an affront to anything that might be called human or alive.
Don't forget 88cockstosuck who's nic is literally a neo-nazi symbol.

Re: $400 Million Payment to Iran

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:03 pm
by The Big Pickle
Moving Sale wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The useless puke of Bris-juice and Fat Fuck, their childish squirms, are an affront to anything that might be called human or alive.
Don't forget 88cockstosuck who's nic is literally a neo-nazi symbol.

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Rack 88

Personally, I'm a 14/88 guy