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Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:48 pm
by Diego in Seattle
What's wrong with your statement could be summed up with "all that aside, Mrs. Lincoln...How was the play?"
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:01 pm
by Mikey
88 wrote:Mikey wrote:Much different context
Care to explain the difference?
OK, I'll admit that Obama fucked up with that statement (sort of like you can keep your own doctor) and that I fucked up by not looking into it more closely. Both Obama and Dr. Ben were both tone deaf at best when making those statements. I still think the context was different, but that's an argument that would be impossible to win, so I'll concede.
The thing that amazes me is that there are posters here (Rooster, Smackaholic, Wolfman, shutyomouth, trev by way of waving her pompoms from the sideline) who would rationalize slavery in any form, anywhere. "Well...it's not the
worst thing that could happen to you." Ponderous. Having an angry weasel chew off your dick also isn't the worst thing that could happen to you - so why don't you go ahead and do that, and then go home and dream about a better life for your kids.
You people seriously should seek help. What's happened to this country?
BTW...
Wolfman wrote:im·mi·grant
ˈ
a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls. I don't see any reference as to the method by which one becomes an "immigrant" to another country. Picky, picky, picky.
Slaves were not considered "persons," so they couldn't possibly be immigrants until emancipation.
So shove your equivocation up your shriveled up ass.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:10 pm
by Goober McTuber
Mikey wrote:Having an angry weasel chew off your dick also isn't the worst thing that could happen to you - so why don't you go ahead and do that, and then go home and dream about a better life for your kids.
How is one going to have kids after an angry weasel chewed off one's dick?
Not to detract from an uncharacteristically excellent post on your part.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:24 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Goober McTuber wrote:Mikey wrote:Having an angry weasel chew off your dick also isn't the worst thing that could happen to you - so why don't you go ahead and do that, and then go home and dream about a better life for your kids.
How is one going to have kids after an angry weasel chewed off one's dick?
Not to detract from an uncharacteristically excellent post on your part.
So parents w/ kids can't dream of a better life for their kids?
#LogicFail
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:56 pm
by Goober McTuber
Diego in Seattle wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:Mikey wrote:Having an angry weasel chew off your dick also isn't the worst thing that could happen to you - so why don't you go ahead and do that, and then go home and dream about a better life for your kids.
How is one going to have kids after an angry weasel chewed off one's dick?
Not to detract from an uncharacteristically excellent post on your part.
So parents w/ kids can't dream of a better life for their kids?
#LogicFail
I was only addressing one scenario.
#ObtuseHumorlessFuckwit
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:05 pm
by trev
I never rationalized slavery. It's one of those things that saddens me to the core it happened.
Mikey, you messed up calling out Ben Carson for this and I mentioned that you did this because you don't like him for some reason. He hasn't done anything bad that I have seen and he seems like a sweet, smart, genuine human being.
So really, shove it up your ass for trying to put this back on me and others here.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:12 pm
by Rooster
For me slavery is just a historical event that those whose great-great-great-great-great grandparents were slaves are attempting to use to rationalize whatever agenda they have. Black? Oh, I deserve reparations, free college education, a get-out-of-jail-free card, a looted Walmart television, etc etc. It has no bearing on anyone today outside of a communal sense of entitlement. Yet you don't hear Jews wanting a handout because their anscestors suffered in the Holocaust. You don't hear about the Britons wanting reparations from the Italians for the emotional damage the Romans did to their sense of self.
At some point, it needs to be rcognized for what it is: An excuse for a lack of gumption. Get over it. It's ancient history-- at least by today's standards of news.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:25 pm
by Mikey
Papa Willie wrote:Mikey - YOU are a descendant of slaves. So am I. So is every white person in the world. So is every black person. See how this works?
So that means you're cool with slavery.
OK. Gotcha.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:25 pm
by Mikey
Rooster wrote:For me slavery is just a historical event that those whose great-great-great-great-great grandparents were slaves are attempting to use to rationalize whatever agenda they have. Black? Oh, I deserve reparations, free college education, a get-out-of-jail-free card, a looted Walmart television, etc etc. It has no bearing on anyone today outside of a communal sense of entitlement. Yet you don't hear Jews wanting a handout because their anscestors suffered in the Holocaust. You don't hear about the Britons wanting reparations from the Italians for the emotional damage the Romans did to their sense of self.
At some point, it needs to be rcognized for what it is: An excuse for a lack of gumption. Get over it. It's ancient history-- at least by today's standards of news.
Nice backpedal.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:26 pm
by Rooster
Backpedal? How so? Just a couple of posts ago you said I was minimizing or equivocating the American slave experience and now I'm backpedaling?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:32 pm
by BSmack
Papa Willie wrote:Mikey wrote:Papa Willie wrote:Mikey - YOU are a descendant of slaves. So am I. So is every white person in the world. So is every black person. See how this works?
So that means you're cool with slavery.
OK. Gotcha.
Where did I say that? No - I don't think it was cool, but it's not my problem. It happened over 100 years before you or I was born.
Get over it.
Obviously you forgot about the southern penal system.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:11 pm
by smackaholic
I never said slavery was a good thing. What Dr Ben said was that even a slave might have some hope that his descendants might be in a better situation. I also pointed out that a balck American could consider himself lucky, in a twisted fukked up sort of way, that his forebearers had the misfortune of getting shipped off to America as a slave, because had he not, he might be an African African and not an African American. And on average, being the latter is far better.....in 2017. Hell, i'd argue that it might have been better one hundred years ago in the Jim Crow south.
This is in no way rationalizing Jim Crow or slavery. It is just pointing out a fact.
The real question here is why we have libs continuing to dwell on the evils on American slavery. Is it because they thing slavery is more terrible than conservatives do?
No.
It all boils down to one thing. Keeping balck folk on the "progressive" plantation. They think that if they out "white guilt" conservatives, it will keep them pulling the D lever. For the last 50 years or so, this strategy has paid off, but I believe this tactic is slowly but surely running out of gas, as most political strategies eventually do. People like Dr Ben pose a danger to them and they will do everything in their power to tear him down.
Go ahead and call me an idiot and point out how you have more college degrees than I. I could give a fukk. You know g0d dam well I am right.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:34 pm
by Goober McTuber
smackaholic wrote:I never said slavery was a good thing. What Dr Ben said was that even a slave might have some hope that his descendants might be in a better situation. I also pointed out that a balck American could consider himself lucky, in a twisted fukked up sort of way, that his forebearers had the misfortune of getting shipped off to America as a slave, because had he not, he might be an African African and not an African American. And on average, being the latter is far better.....in 2017. Hell, i'd argue that it might have been better one hundred years ago in the Jim Crow south.
This is in no way rationalizing Jim Crow or slavery. It is just pointing out a fact.
The real question here is why we have libs continuing to dwell on the evils on American slavery. Is it because they thing slavery is more terrible than conservatives do?
No.
It all boils down to one thing. Keeping balck folk on the "progressive" plantation. They think that if they out "white guilt" conservatives, it will keep them pulling the D lever. For the last 50 years or so, this strategy has paid off, but I believe this tactic is slowly but surely running out of gas, as most political strategies eventually do. People like Dr Ben pose a danger to them and they will do everything in their power to tear him down.
Go ahead and call me an idiot and point out how you have more college degrees than I. I could give a fukk. You know g0d dam well I am right.
You are a fucking idiot. Forget the college degrees, my high school diploma is probably one more than you have.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:40 pm
by The Big Pickle
Pickle was here
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:19 pm
by smackaholic
Goober McTuber wrote:smackaholic wrote:I never said slavery was a good thing. What Dr Ben said was that even a slave might have some hope that his descendants might be in a better situation. I also pointed out that a balck American could consider himself lucky, in a twisted fukked up sort of way, that his forebearers had the misfortune of getting shipped off to America as a slave, because had he not, he might be an African African and not an African American. And on average, being the latter is far better.....in 2017. Hell, i'd argue that it might have been better one hundred years ago in the Jim Crow south.
This is in no way rationalizing Jim Crow or slavery. It is just pointing out a fact.
The real question here is why we have libs continuing to dwell on the evils on American slavery. Is it because they thing slavery is more terrible than conservatives do?
No.
It all boils down to one thing. Keeping balck folk on the "progressive" plantation. They think that if they out "white guilt" conservatives, it will keep them pulling the D lever. For the last 50 years or so, this strategy has paid off, but I believe this tactic is slowly but surely running out of gas, as most political strategies eventually do. People like Dr Ben pose a danger to them and they will do everything in their power to tear him down.
Go ahead and call me an idiot and point out how you have more college degrees than I. I could give a fukk. You know g0d dam well I am right.
You are a fucking idiot. Forget the college degrees, my high school diploma is probably one more than you have.
As predictable as the day is long. Can't refute my claim, just drop the you're a fukkin' idiot clam.
BTW, I do have my HS diploma.
Go find one of the half dozen balck folks there are in Wisky, north of milwaukee and get back to groveling.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:10 am
by Moving Sale
KC Scott wrote:Reading through this I think there are two general conclusions most everyone agrees on:
1. Slavery was horrible for the slaves who were brought here (they were the vanquished in Tribal warfare on their continent)
2. Their descendants living here today have a much higher quality of life and far more opportunity than their counterparts on the African continent
Define: general conclusions.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:13 am
by Moving Sale
Holic is a dumbfuck.
Almost everyone might hope their ancestors will be better off.
Is there any sin the right won't spin as a good thing?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:30 am
by smackaholic
Moving Sale wrote:Holic is a dumbfuck.
Almost everyone might hope their ancestors will be better off.
Is there any sin the right won't spin as a good thing?
I might be a dumb fukk, but I do know the definition of ancestor.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:37 am
by Moving Sale
And there is your answer.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:54 am
by smackaholic
right over your head......like most things.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:47 am
by Moving Sale
Nice projection dumbfuck.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:01 pm
by Rooster
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/10/nj ... nment.html
Once again, people getting all uptight about something that has no bearing on today.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:11 pm
by Diego in Seattle
I don't have a problem with the idea of a slave auction poster, but from the description of it it sounds like the students aren't being given proper context.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:16 pm
by The Big Pickle
Pickle was here
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:17 pm
by Rooster
Remember back in high school you'd have a slave auction during homecoming week? That's all verboten in today's SJW culture. After all, we need to protect our darling children from even a hint of being the recipient of white privilege. Heavens to Betsy! if some black student were seen to be sold to a white child, the horrah! Everyone's delicate sensibilities would be forever and permanently harmed.
This slave poster brouhaha falls under the same silliness.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:36 pm
by The Big Pickle
Why does anybody even respond to Moving Sale or Pedo in Seattle. They are fukkks that need to die and NOTHING you say will ever change their minds or the fact they need to die. It's beyond pointless. That's why I say what I say, because after 20 years of trying to communicate and rationalize with these fukkks I've come to the conclusion the only thing that will change their mind is revolution. So until the revolution when it becomes legal to kill enemy combatants the best way to respond to these losers is to tell them to "fukkkk off and die!"
And lastly, even mvscal wants to line these fukkkkers up against a wall....he just says it more eloquently then I do.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:37 pm
by BSmack
Rooster wrote:Remember back in high school you'd have a slave auction during homecoming week?
WTF? No, we did not have a slave auction. We had a contest to see who could make the best sign. The we had a bonfire, which they still have. What kind of jackwagons ran your school?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:20 pm
by smackaholic
Rooster, Where the fukk did you go to HS?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:35 pm
by The Big Pickle
Pickle was here
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:13 pm
by Bucmonkey
[quote="Rooster"]Remember back in high school you'd have a slave auction during homecoming week? quote]
WTF?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:03 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Bucmonkey wrote:Rooster wrote:Remember back in high school you'd have a slave auction during homecoming week? quote]
WTF?
i dont even
:|
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:05 am
by Mikey
Rooster's homecoming:

Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:54 am
by Diego in Seattle
At Rooster's high school they always showed the film Birth Of A Nation (the first one).
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:06 pm
by smackaholic
Pretty sure no one here actually had slave auctions in HS. I mean, yeah, goobs and wolfie are old enough, but they were both yankees. Sam lives in the right place, but I don't think he's quite that old. I sure his dad had slave auctions in HS, assuming he went to HS.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:48 pm
by Mikey
Totally different animal. At that HS it was completely voluntary. At Rooster's HS they actually auctioned off slaves to help pay for Homecoming.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:13 pm
by Rooster
I graduated from a high school in NC. The slave auction was run by the senior class and anyone could purchase the labors of underclassmen to do whatever menial tasks could think of, which, for the parents included yard work, washing cars, picking cotton-- that kind of stuff. You know, normal plantation chores everybody has to do, right?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:06 pm
by smackaholic
This was before they invented messicans, right?
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:25 am
by Rooster
Yeah, once the blacks got all uppity and won the White House Messicans became the house boys (or rather house girls/maids) for us genteel plantation owners. They don't make a mint julep quite like Lacadarious or Shaqueesa did, but they make up for it in margaritas.
Seriously, no one here had slave auctions in the build up to Homecoming Week? How about a Sadie Hawkins Day dance? Truthfully, I'm astounded that I might be the only one here who experienced the joy of owning another human being other than my kids. I'm sad for y'all. Must be an impoverished existence bein' a damn Yankee.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:29 am
by Dr_Phibes
KC Scott wrote:
One thing I wonder about is what this country would look like today if there had been no slavery?
Probably Canada. Still a bit louder and fatter, but a lesser degree of dynamism.
Always took pride in the Cornwallis army as a beacon for slaves, before and during Yorktown - superhuman accomplishments. And thank goodness your issues on the history are limited to yourselves and no one else.
Re: Ben Carson
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:57 am
by smackaholic
Look at Phibes being all high and mighty.
Biggest difference between you and us is that cotton won't grow in that frozen wasteland you call home.