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smackaholic wrote:Elections have consequences, or so I've been told. The reps run the executive and legislative branch, but by margins too thin to steamroll things through. This means the reps have to throw the dems an occasional bone. They have as they are willing to live with some form of DACA....with a few strings. The dems, unfortunately want everything and are willing to give up nothing. And so long as 90% of the MSM carries their water, they may get away with it.

Joe in PB wrote:

Mikey wrote:

Joe in PB wrote:90% of Drumpf’s motivation is to undo everything that Obama accomplished even when what’s best for the country, like DACA.

Please explain how or why DACA is best for the country, as opposed to deporting illegal immigrants and their children back to their country?

Innocent Bystander wrote:

Joe in PB wrote:What I want is illegal aliens sent back to their countries. What I want is to stop paying for illegal alien education and medial needs. What I want is a balanced budget and a Capitol Hill that is functional, unfortunately none of those things happened.

Really, there's nothing more that needs to be said.

Mikey wrote: You go first. I was just disagreeing with your claim, which was completely unsubstantiated. I know you feel that whatever your opinion is should be obviously correct to the rest of the world but, really, it doesn’t work that way.

88 wrote:Not a spending bill. Takes 60 votes.

Joe in PB wrote:

Mikey wrote: You go first. I was just disagreeing with your claim, which was completely unsubstantiated. I know you feel that whatever your opinion is should be obviously correct to the rest of the world but, really, it doesn’t work that way.

Thanks for demonstrating exactly what is wrong on Capitol Hill. Whatever the other party is in favor of, your party is not.

“Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the President’s the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room, and he’s got to lead. And he doesn’t do that, he doesn’t like doing that, that’s not his strength. And that’s why you have this horrible situation going on in Washington. It’s a very, very bad thing and it’s very embarrassing worldwide.”

Joe in PB wrote:
Please explain how or why DACA is best for the country, as opposed to deporting illegal immigrants and their children back to their country?

“The fight to protect Dreamers...is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,”

Left Seater wrote:

Joe in PB wrote:
Please explain how or why DACA is best for the country, as opposed to deporting illegal immigrants and their children back to their country?

Simple. It is all about votes. The Dems need them and one of Hillary’s aides put it in a memo.

http://www.newsweek.com/daca-memo-democ ... 5988?amp=1

“The fight to protect Dreamers...is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,”

Whether Trump remains in his behind-the-scenes role is unclear — he is “itching” to be involved and constantly watching TV, according to a senior White House official. One adviser who speaks to Trump frequently said he “always wants a deal.”

As Trump has watched the nonstop television coverage of the shutdown, he has bounced from grousing to aides that he will be blamed for the shutdown, to asking aloud if he should try to end it, to saying Republicans are in a better spot than Democrats and citing polls that show as much.

He complained about not going to Florida for the weekend, where the first anniversary of his inauguration was to be feted with a lavish gala, while also telling advisers his administration was doing better on handling the shutdown than Obama’s did in 2013, according to people who spoke to him.

Trump was determined to show he was working, posing Saturday for a photo behind his desk, wearing a white “Make America Great Again” golf hat. To the click of cameras, he strode resolutely down the portico and even made a rare venture up to the office of White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, where he addressed a coterie of top aides.

coterie

Softball Bat wrote:

coterie

Prayers going out.

88 wrote:

BSmack wrote:

88 wrote:Not a spending bill. Takes 60 votes.

Not true. Had the Republicans not already wasted budget reconciliation on their disastrous attempt to repeal Obamacare they would have that card in the deck right now. But they didn't because they suck and now they can't make a deal.

So what you are saying is that the the Democrats are not responsible for shutting down the government because the Republicans could have prevented the Democrats from shutting down the government, but didn't?

88 wrote: I wish your parents had smuggled you into a certain facility on the shore of Guantanamo Bay as a child.

Screw_Michigan wrote:They won't. Not sending back people who were forced to move without their consent is a priority for non-racists in America.

Left Seater wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:They won't. Not sending back people who were forced to move without their consent is a priority for non-racists in America.

You get paid to write? Wonderful sentence there.

If these people really were forced to move here then sending them home would be the compassionate thing to do.

From the UPi:

McConnell said Democrats caved after realizing the shutdown wasn't politically wise.

"I think if we've learned anything during this process it's that a strategy to shut down the government over the issue of illegal immigration is something that the American people didn't understand," McConnell said.

Goober McTuber wrote:

Left Seater wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:They won't. Not sending back people who were forced to move without their consent is a priority for non-racists in America.

You get paid to write? Wonderful sentence there.

If these people really were forced to move here then sending them home would be the compassionate thing to do.

When it's now the only home they know? That's being compassionate? You aren't this stupid.

Oh, wait...

Left Seater wrote:See the linked quote from Screwy. He tried to make it sound like these people were kidnapped and held here against their will. He is trying to spin a narrative. I replied in kind calling out his crap.

Goober McTuber wrote: Well, if you're going to reply in kind, it is incumbent upon you to translate your sentences into Screwballese. If you're going to write it in proper English, you're just going to confuse the reader.