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Papa Willie wrote:https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Why are you kicking your own ass like that?

BSmack wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Why are you kicking your own ass like that?

It's what he does. I'm so happy I gave him that link.

Papa Willie wrote:

BSmack wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Why are you kicking your own ass like that?

LEFT-CENTER BIAS

Though they might be factual, that is to let you know you have to put your bias blinders on.

The problem is we're talking about the facts in the story and not whatever perceived bias you are imagining.

I know nothing about Tillman, so I can't make a judgement. But I do know a story can be factually accurate and biased at the same time. This happens often with quotes taken out of context. Also happens when some facts are presented and others are omitted. This kind of reporting is done all the time for expediency. But it's also done to advocate opinions.

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Maybe his brother said it best.

https://youtu.be/yRNxiPVZ69Q

BSmack wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Why are you kicking your own ass like that?

Good one, Melty. That's exactly as I pictured you once you realized that you had kicked your own fat ass. Again.

Nike needs to come out with a new line of shoes for kneelers. They already have running and walking shoes. Now they need to complete their product line with shoes for people who want to kneel. Maybe they'd have an upturned toe box so Cap doesn't get a foot cramp. Or maybe a grass stain resistant toe so as to avoid those unsightly smudges for when you just gotta take a knee.

schmick wrote:So nike will continue to pay Asians, mostly children or women, 20 cents an hour to work 70-80 hours a week so that nike can make enough profit to pay this guy millions of dollars to speak out against injustice and opression....am I reading this correctly?

Not to mention no bathroom breaks for the sweat shop workers. Can't be taking pee breaks and slowing down the production line when you gotta pay a mediocre former quarterback millions.

Papa Willie wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:Good one, Melty. That's exactly as I pictured you once you realized that you had kicked your own fat ass. Again.

You've never kicked anybody's ass, knigger boy.

In your case I don't have to. I just sit back and watch you take care of business.

IKYABWAI. Brilliant, Lamespray.

Great commercial, strange spokesperson.

Darren Rovell
@darrenrovell
Nike stock closes at $83.47, an all-time high for the company.

ML@Coyote wrote:I know nothing about Tillman, so I can't make a judgement. But I do know a story can be factually accurate and biased at the same time. This happens often with quotes taken out of context. Also happens when some facts are presented and others are omitted. This kind of reporting is done all the time for expediency. But it's also done to advocate opinions.

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ML, I can't claim to have "known" Pat Tillman, but I met him on a few occasions and had a chance to speak to him. What I can suggest, is that Tillman was not an "endorsement" kind of guy. He stood for American values and freedom and gave his life for his beliefs. He probably would have agreed with the CK protest, as it was peaceful, though he would have disagreed with the intent of any disrespect to the flag and anthem. That really isn't at the heart of Kaepernick's stance, but Tillman would likely not have approved of his likeness being used in the Nike ad, as the context may not have been entirely in line with Tillman's core values, especially since the whole thing is about endorsing a freaking shoe in the end. He could have cared less about that.

Last year, Tillman's widow issued in a statement saying that her husband and the many other Americans that have given their lives for this country, believed in "The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one's heart - no matter those views."

Pat Tillman was a very solid guy. His legacy will last a very long time. Nike's message is right, but the delivery is questionable.

Jay in Phoenix wrote: ML, I can't claim to have "known" Pat Tillman, but I met him on a few occasions and had a chance to speak to him. What I can suggest, is that Tillman was not an "endorsement" kind of guy. He stood for American values and freedom and gave his life for his beliefs. He probably would have agreed with the CK protest, as it was peaceful, though he would have disagreed with the intent of any disrespect to the flag and anthem. That really isn't at the heart of Kaepernick's stance, but Tillman would likely not have approved of his likeness being used in the Nike ad, as the context may not have been entirely in line with Tillman's core values, especially since the whole thing is about endorsing a freaking shoe in the end. He could have cared less about that.

Last year, Tillman's widow issued in a statement saying that her husband and the many other Americans that have given their lives for this country, believed in "The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one's heart - no matter those views."

Pat Tillman was a very solid guy. His legacy will last a very long time. Nike's message is right, but the delivery is questionable.

Rack you, Jay

Papa Willie wrote:Why is it that a big company would risk the chance of alienating half their buyers? Unless, I guess they know the majority of their customers are liberal.

I had a pair of their shoes in 1979 and then in 1999. Both pair were shit and only lasted about a year. That was a good enough selling point for me.

They do have a max weight rating, ya know.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:ML, I can't claim to have "known" Pat Tillman, but I met him on a few occasions and had a chance to speak to him. What I can suggest, is that Tillman was not an "endorsement" kind of guy. He stood for American values and freedom and gave his life for his beliefs. He probably would have agreed with the CK protest, as it was peaceful, though he would have disagreed with the intent of any disrespect to the flag and anthem. That really isn't at the heart of Kaepernick's stance, but Tillman would likely not have approved of his likeness being used in the Nike ad, as the context may not have been entirely in line with Tillman's core values, especially since the whole thing is about endorsing a freaking shoe in the end. He could have cared less about that.

Last year, Tillman's widow issued in a statement saying that her husband and the many other Americans that have given their lives for this country, believed in "The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one's heart - no matter those views."

Pat Tillman was a very solid guy. His legacy will last a very long time. Nike's message is right, but the delivery is questionable.

Perfectly said.