Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:21 pm
Papa Willie wrote:
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Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:53 pm
And yet you you have no problem believing what they tell you happened 4 billion years ago - because (you think) it supports some dumb-assed connection, that you still haven't explained.Papa Willie wrote:
How am I cherry picking when I’m using readings from the earth’s entire history?
You’ve no concept of time, nor do you understand that the entire picture is required to even come up with an even half-assed guess of what is happening. These poor fuckers can’t even predict what’s going to happen a few hours down the road, much less years.
Guess what - there were no "readings" from 4 billion years ago, because there was nobody there to "read" them.
Talk about no concept of time...10 billion years ago this was probably an empty spot in space. How is that not also relevant?
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:35 pm
No, but he's a lot more interested in my history over the past 5 years than he is in how I felt in 1958. Or what happened to my great great grandfather, for that matter.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:42 pm
How do you know that? Isn't all time and space relative?Papa Willie wrote:
At no point in infinite time have we ever occupied the same space we're in right now.
You need a point of reference to define any space or place in time.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:28 pm
That's why you need a point of reference. Your location in space or time can only be defined relative to some other place or entity.Papa Willie wrote:
If the universe is infinite, then how could that be?
How do you know that?You do understand that there is no such thing as absolute 0, don't you?
Probably true, but he really doesn't care what what my cholesterol was when I was 10.PS: You're silly if you think your Dr. only wants 5 years of your medical history.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:39 pm
I think Melty is an absolute zero.You do understand that there is no such thing as absolute 0, don't you?
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:23 pm
I thought about taking a swing at that hanging curve but was in a conciliatory mood.Goober McTuber wrote:I think Melty is an absolute zero.You do understand that there is no such thing as absolute 0, don't you?
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:25 pm
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:48 pm
Not sure that is any vindication. They are still responsible for 17 fires. Props I guess for it not being 18?
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:53 pm
That one was the most destructive fire in California history. So it's maybe a little more than 1/18th.Left Seater wrote:Not sure that is any vindication. They are still responsible for 17 fires. Props I guess for it not being 18?
I don't like defending PG&E. Like I said before, the IOUs in this state are basically in the business of raping the ratepayers with the blessing of the state regulators. But I've also heard that the PG&E transformer close to where the Camp fire started was found after the fire to have suspicious bullet holes.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:36 pm
Nonsense. My wife drives a G25.Papa Willie wrote:I wouldn't expect either of you to have a comprehension of infinity.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:28 pm
This. If more folks in SoCal and San Fran had to run an A/C unit most of the year the rate payers would totally revolt. However CA gets away with their raping of the rate payers because so many people don’t need to run A/C.Mikey wrote:
I don't like defending PG&E. Like I said before, the IOUs in this state are basically in the business of raping the ratepayers with the blessing of the state regulators.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:34 pm
We run it plenty at our house. Not nearly like you all I'm sure, but we have days in the summer that reach three digits, and consecutive weeks where the high doesn't go below 90. If you live within a mile or so of the coast, not so much, but we're 12 miles inland.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:26 pm
Don't have an A/C unit, no need. Been burning alot of NG lately though. Sucks when the nighttime temperature has been dropping into the 50's for the last month or so.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:30 pm
LOL we had frost earlier this week.
We're on propane for heat and DHW. That shit is $$$. I get a bill for about $400 to $500 every time they come to fill the tank, which is probably four times a year. I've gotten used to sleeping with the T-stat set at 67. Actually no getting used to it for me, but the wife needs to bundle up. Thinking about getting solar hot water, though.
We're on propane for heat and DHW. That shit is $$$. I get a bill for about $400 to $500 every time they come to fill the tank, which is probably four times a year. I've gotten used to sleeping with the T-stat set at 67. Actually no getting used to it for me, but the wife needs to bundle up. Thinking about getting solar hot water, though.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:14 pm
No doubt it is necessary in parts of the state. I have been in Palm Springs during the summer.
However, more that 40% of California dwellings do not have A/C. Another 18% has only window units. This really cuts down on the need for power in the state. By far the biggest user of power in Texas is cooling offices and dwellings nine plus months a year.
Mikey your wife would freeze at casa Lefty. In the summer the A/C is set to 67 for sleeping and heat is set to 65 in the few winter months. But you guys in SoCal are weather pussies. I went to dinner twice this week and restaurants had portable heaters going outside on their patios and the temps were 68-70. WTF?
However, more that 40% of California dwellings do not have A/C. Another 18% has only window units. This really cuts down on the need for power in the state. By far the biggest user of power in Texas is cooling offices and dwellings nine plus months a year.
Mikey your wife would freeze at casa Lefty. In the summer the A/C is set to 67 for sleeping and heat is set to 65 in the few winter months. But you guys in SoCal are weather pussies. I went to dinner twice this week and restaurants had portable heaters going outside on their patios and the temps were 68-70. WTF?
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:02 am
And here I thought you had the whole BTU thing figured out, Miguel.Mikey wrote:LOL we had frost earlier this week.
We're on propane for heat and DHW. That shit is $$$. I get a bill for about $400 to $500 every time they come to fill the tank, which is probably four times a year. I've gotten used to sleeping with the T-stat set at 67. Actually no getting used to it for me, but the wife needs to bundle up. Thinking about getting solar hot water, though.
Anyone that uses propane for anything other than cooking is a fool. NG is best if available. Electric otherwise. Especially when you have “our” MST out back helping to pay for it. The fact you are using propane tells me NG is unavailable. A heat pump will handle socal’s modest heat needs. A solar water heater with electric backup would be best for domestic HW.
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Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:19 am
No natural gas available in our neighborhood. No sewer either, so we're on a septic system.
When we moved in there was propane space heat and water heat, and we added a propane dryer. We changed out the dryer last year for an electric one. Our kitchen is all electric. Not even plumbed for gas.
And yes, propane is expensive but around here electricity is even more expensive. SDG&E, I think, has the highest residential rates in the continental US. Over the past two years we've averaged about $0.30/kWh on a tiered rate (I hear you guys have pretty high rates as well).
With this "Smart Home Study" I'm supposed to start participating in I have to go on a TOU (Time of Use) rate where it's higher during the peak periods and lower during off-peak. In the summer they will actually have a "super peak" period from 4:00 pm until 9:00 pm where it's something like $0.56/kWh.
That period used to be 2:00 pm until 6:00 pm, I think, until we started getting loads of solar generation and the system peak period has shifted until later.
This new battery that was installed in December, which hasn't been inspected or commissioned yet will, hopefully, let me shift all my super peak usage to the new super off-peak period (midnight until 6:00 am) where the cost is a somewhat more reasonable $0.09/kWh. I'll also put the plug-in Fusion on a controller so it charges up after midnight.
In between hours will be something like $0.25/kWh. If I can manage to actually put a few kWh back into the grid in the late afternoon, I'll get reimbursed at that high rate as well, but there's not much production that late in the day, even during the summer.
When we moved in there was propane space heat and water heat, and we added a propane dryer. We changed out the dryer last year for an electric one. Our kitchen is all electric. Not even plumbed for gas.
And yes, propane is expensive but around here electricity is even more expensive. SDG&E, I think, has the highest residential rates in the continental US. Over the past two years we've averaged about $0.30/kWh on a tiered rate (I hear you guys have pretty high rates as well).
With this "Smart Home Study" I'm supposed to start participating in I have to go on a TOU (Time of Use) rate where it's higher during the peak periods and lower during off-peak. In the summer they will actually have a "super peak" period from 4:00 pm until 9:00 pm where it's something like $0.56/kWh.
That period used to be 2:00 pm until 6:00 pm, I think, until we started getting loads of solar generation and the system peak period has shifted until later. This new battery that was installed in December, which hasn't been inspected or commissioned yet will, hopefully, let me shift all my super peak usage to the new super off-peak period (midnight until 6:00 am) where the cost is a somewhat more reasonable $0.09/kWh. I'll also put the plug-in Fusion on a controller so it charges up after midnight.
In between hours will be something like $0.25/kWh. If I can manage to actually put a few kWh back into the grid in the late afternoon, I'll get reimbursed at that high rate as well, but there's not much production that late in the day, even during the summer.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:28 am
I went out for a while, years ago, with a woman who had moved out here from Michigan. In the winter she would set her thermostat to about 78. Just sweltering. I figured at the time that cold weather folks just like having it really warm inside during the winter.Left Seater wrote:No doubt it is necessary in parts of the state. I have been in Palm Springs during the summer.
However, more that 40% of California dwellings do not have A/C. Another 18% has only window units. This really cuts down on the need for power in the state. By far the biggest user of power in Texas is cooling offices and dwellings nine plus months a year.
Mikey your wife would freeze at casa Lefty. In the summer the A/C is set to 67 for sleeping and heat is set to 65 in the few winter months. But you guys in SoCal are weather pussies. I went to dinner twice this week and restaurants had portable heaters going outside on their patios and the temps were 68-70. WTF?
I'm still wearing shorts outside during the day until it gets to about 60.
I could easily live with 65 deg for sleeping. We run our AC at about 74 in the summer. 67? talk about weather pussies.
Nice thing around here is that, even on most of the hottest days, it cools down to at least the low 70s by evening. At that point I turn off the AC, open all the windows, and turn on the whole house fan, which draws about 12,000 CFM of fresh air in from the outside.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:10 am
Whole house fans rock!!!!
Between it and the large oaks on the south side of Casa Smackaholic, we live 99+% AC free.
I am surprised that you can heat water cheaper with propane than electrons.
Between it and the large oaks on the south side of Casa Smackaholic, we live 99+% AC free.
I am surprised that you can heat water cheaper with propane than electrons.
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:21 pm
Hey 'holic, how's the weather back in your part of the country this week?
I heard you were supposed to be getting some pretty cold weather.
Right now here it's 73 deg and 22% humidity. Low of 52 tonight.
I decided to pick some fruit from a couple of our trees today:
I heard you were supposed to be getting some pretty cold weather.
Right now here it's 73 deg and 22% humidity. Low of 52 tonight.
I decided to pick some fruit from a couple of our trees today:
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:13 pm
Die in a mudslide, or fire.Mikey wrote:Hey 'holic, how's the weather back in your part of the country this week?
I heard you were supposed to be getting some pretty cold weather.
Right now here it's 73 deg and 22% humidity. Low of 52 tonight.
I decided to pick some fruit from a couple of our trees today:
Either works for me.
Supposed to be single digits late this week.
Thanks for asking. Dick.
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Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:41 pm
Yeah, funny how Oregon and Washington pay basically half the cost per kWh as California does, yet the average bill is about the same.Papa Willie wrote:https://www.eia.gov/electricity/sales_r ... ble5_a.pdf
Funny how all the asshole power companies make sure that everybody's monthly costs are pretty much the same. Even with a hell of a break, we still get hammered in GA...
Re: PG&E files for bankruptcy protection
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:18 pm
smackaholic wrote:
Supposed to be single digits late this week.
Thanks for asking. Dick.
I played golf yesterday.