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Mikey wrote:

smackaholic wrote:

Rooster wrote:I don’t live in California. I left around the time I began contracting because the thought of investing, as tax proponents call it, to the tune of 10.3% of my gross wages was anathema to me. If I got something for my money, like terrific roads on Highway 99 or cheap fuel, I might have stayed, but to see my tax dollars get frittered away to illegal aliens was a step too far.

I’ll admit that there are some things I miss, like flying into Yosemite at treetop level all throughout the year. I miss flying into Chrissy Field at the foot of the Golden Gate Bridge. I miss flying up to the Dardanelles and Kirkwood.

But the bad so far outweighs the good and in such a lopsided fashion that I doubt that I’ll ever return except to visit my kids.

The funny thing is, when we announced that we were leaving our friends expressed amazement that we’d ever leave. When we told them we didn’t wish to pay such exorbitant taxes they told us they thought everyone paid that much. Like the frog in the slowly heating pot of water, they never gave any thought to the crazy high taxes and how it gets spent.

The uber-rich won't leave. They are insulated from the 3rd world state it is becoming. I will be the first to admit, I'd likely live there if I had an 8 figure net worth. It really does have unmatched nature beauty and weather. But the middle-class are leaving in droves and will continue to. And that is where the money is.

At some point, maybe they'll come to their senses, but I am afraid that 50 years of stuffing the place full of people who think a 3rd world existence is the norm, won't permit this.

And yet you live in a state with a higher overall tax burden than California (according to WalletHub):

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-h ... den/20494/

6. Connecticut
Total tax burden: 10.19 percent

Property tax burden: 4.17 percent
Individual income tax burden: 3.34 percent
Total sales and excise tax burden: 2.68 percent


10. California
Total tax burden: 9.57 percent

Property tax burden: 2.66 percent
Individual income tax burden: 3.65 percent
Total sales and excise tax burden: 3.26 percent


Maybe you should consider moving out here. Better yet, forget that we already have enough snowbirds.

And who knows, maybe WalletHub is just another media shill for the Democrats.

If you are looking for me to defend Ct, you'll be waiting a long time.

This once very wealthy state is swirling the drain. You have the issue of poor fukkers from south of the border swarming in. Over the last half century, we have had a very similar problem. The difference is, our latin invading horde walked right in the front door from Puerto Rico. American citizens, every last one of them. In fact, a number of dominicans come in posing as puerto ricans.

We moved away about 24 years ago. Unfortunately, the OL talked me into coming back 3 years later. Should have stayed in TN. A kid in college, 2 good jobs and a paid off mortgage in a nice semi-rural town are the only things keeping us here. The difference between you and me is that you seem to not have a problem with your state being run into the financial ditch. I hate the hell out of it. Our plan is to either sell and run away in the next 5 years or so, or maybe just say fuggit and ride it out here. At that point the fact that our home will have no market value won't be so important. My kids might argue otherwise, but too fukkin' bad.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:

Rooster wrote:...Victor Davis Hanson, a prominent political writer...

Prominent among who? The 5 or 6 soft-handed, doughy-chinned neo-conservatives left in America?

There's more of us than that.

And my chin isn't doughy......well, maybe a few of them are.

I am hoping that Cali doesn’t change, for decades at least. Look it is nice to visit and the weather is nice. (Although pulling out the fruit tree heaters when the temperature is 71 on a restaurant patio is beyond me, but to each their own.)

However as long as Cali wants to take in illegals, give health care to everyone at little or no cost, have generous benefits for homeless, let illegals vote in some elections and not strictly enforce drug laws, I see that as a win. Our homeless population in SAT has declined a bit due to the vast majority of them wanting to get to Austin or Cali. Unfortunately buying them bus tickets is seen as bad pool and a good way to draw more looking for free transport to Cali.

At the same time, Mikey who seems like a level headed person, hasn’t chosen to leave Cali. So that says something. However, if Mikey were to chose to bail, I might start getting worried.

smackaholic wrote:At that point the fact that our home will have no market value won't be so important. My kids might argue otherwise, but too fukkin' bad.

Your home has no market value because of Democrats? Why? Did they come over and do your reno work?

Mikey wrote:
And yet you live in a state with a higher overall tax burden than California (according to WalletHub):

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-h ... den/20494/

6. Connecticut
Total tax burden: 10.19 percent

Property tax burden: 4.17 percent
Individual income tax burden: 3.34 percent
Total sales and excise tax burden: 2.68 percent


10. California
Total tax burden: 9.57 percent

Property tax burden: 2.66 percent
Individual income tax burden: 3.65 percent
Total sales and excise tax burden: 3.26 percent


Maybe you should consider moving out here. Better yet, forget that we already have enough snowbirds.

And who knows, maybe WalletHub is just another media shill for the Democrats.

So, Holic's (statistical) "burden" is 10.19% of $31 billion

Yours is 9.57% of $210 billion.


Talk about manipulating numbers.

Dinsdale wrote:

Mikey wrote:
And yet you live in a state with a higher overall tax burden than California (according to WalletHub):

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-h ... den/20494/

6. Connecticut
Total tax burden: 10.19 percent

Property tax burden: 4.17 percent
Individual income tax burden: 3.34 percent
Total sales and excise tax burden: 2.68 percent


10. California
Total tax burden: 9.57 percent

Property tax burden: 2.66 percent
Individual income tax burden: 3.65 percent
Total sales and excise tax burden: 3.26 percent


Maybe you should consider moving out here. Better yet, forget that we already have enough snowbirds.

And who knows, maybe WalletHub is just another media shill for the Democrats.

So, Holic's (statistical) "burden" is 10.19% of $31 billion

Yours is 9.57% of $210 billion.

So?
You’re really not very good at math, are you?

What if a state, county or whatever, had a base of $1 billion and a “burden” of 100%. By your logic they’d be better off than either CT or CA.

What this country really needs is more "babysitters"... to make sure "fat fucks" get off the couch and go to work.


Sup, Porky(Georgia), Left Seater (San Antonio), BlubberSmack (upstate New York), DownSyndrome a holic.(Connecticut), and the Dems' biggest retard (Screwy).


I/we... have a time limit... on supporting your asses... since you"are" Americans.


Get a job... you FAT FUCKS !

BSmack wrote:

smackaholic wrote:At that point the fact that our home will have no market value won't be so important. My kids might argue otherwise, but too fukkin' bad.

Your home has no market value because of Democrats? Why? Did they come over and do your reno work?

I am not talking about my home in particular. I am talking about real estate values in general. If you had a home in detoilet it likely had strong value in the 60s. Today it is likely worth shit, regardless of the level of maintenance you did. Just as a complete dump in Dorchester which you couldn’t give away in 1990 is today worth a fortune due to the gentrification that has taken place there. I suspect Boston might be ripe for a serious correction though. Massachusetts isn’t run as badly as Connecticut, but it isn’t that much better. Western Mass real estate is t any better than Connecticut’s.

As for it being 100% democrats faults, not really. We had a few rep governors over the last 30 years and they didn’t help things much. Rolland sorta tried and all it got him was some time in club fed.


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Funny, no matter what they try to do, prices seem to keep going up around here.

Until they don't.

Rack toolio for stirring up some noise in here

Oregon is trying some sort of statewide rent control. Maybe that will work, or it won’t. But hey let them give it a shot.

Rent control helps the few able to take advantage of it. It fukks everyone else.


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It's simply amazing how stupid most of you are... NOT really.

You live in shitholes on purpose.


You've chosen to spend the rest of your days on the planet... in some of the ugliest places on the planet so you can save money, get FAT and watch TV all day long.


There isn't a human being on the planet that would want spend 9 months a year... outside in the elements of the south.


The weather is beyond atrocious..



I don't think there is someone who makes more than a $1,000 a month that lives there on purpose.


The south... is the World's shithole.




Bacon, Georgia





You can't make this shit up...

Not a single bum, bum droppings or used heroin needles in site. Not much traffic either. A little work and that place could be livable......till the twister visits.

If those were in Half Moon Bay they’d go for a half $million, with smaller lots.

Papa Willie wrote:Have y’all noticed how much I’ve destroyed Shit n’ Needles’ life? I never meant to...

Pssst... Everyone on the board is laughing at you and not with you... shit for brains.



Trailer parks... ain't called heaven... around the rest of the World.


Rack Georgia... for keeping a fence around the state and not letting the likes of you to infest the United States.

Not that you would have the gas money to leave the state...


P.S., ... how many billionaires call Georgia home... and why?


This is why we laugh at you.



the truth

Left Seater wrote:Oregon is trying some sort of statewide rent control. Maybe that will work, or it won’t. But hey let them give it a shot.

It is some crazy shit. They passed and signed a bill that limits rent increases to 7% a year plus CPI. Now the real estate market is doing pretty good in the state with all the inbound California fucks and Intel throwing up fabs every year. Prices are 500K for a brand new house and even 70's homes with no updating are bringing 340K. So you need 80 to 100 K in income to be a home owner in this state right now. That has put a tremendous pressure on the rental markets, studios are 1,000 a month, 2 bedroom 1250, 3 bedroom 1650 and a house is 1,700 to 2400 depending.

Now most landlords were getting 3% increases to cover taxes, and maybe a 1% or so in a given year. But along comes our socialist Commie pussy eating liberal governor and her super majority in the Legislature and they pass this rent control bill to "protect" the renters. The landlords are saying, you know you like telling us what the fuck to charge and all, so we will limit our rent increases to the 7% plus CPI, no problem. Because it is at least 5% more than what the market was seeing WITHOUT the rent controls. These landlords are high fiving each other all over the place. Net profits just went up baby...

My son has some rentals, and gets $ 1,700 for a 1946 3 bedroom slightly updated house in a marginal hood. He is going to increase his rents to the max, he has 100% occupancy and a waiting list. If the tenants bitch, he will tell them to contact their liberal Legislatures in the super majority and complain to them about it. Socialism works comrades...rent increase of over 45% in 5 years..fuck yeah.