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Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:14 am You are a hack. He offered to unlock the money in exchange for the announcement. It’s like the definition of bribery.

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Trust the process.
Just throw up conclusions and then tell them to get serious.
Noise and light.
Kill the je... errr they are human scum.

Sin,
88nazis

88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:54 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:49 am Blah blah blah a lot.
Don’t discuss the testimony.
Trust the process.

Sin,
88ovens

Post his testimony. I did. Where does it support anything you say? I thought you claimed to be a trial lawyer. Do your client's get sent to jail because someone who does not have any direct information about them presumes they are guilty of something?

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:28 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:37 pm the Ukraine

I know a ton of Ukrainians. And every last one of them would be rolling their eyes at you right now, if you weren't in the South Korea, and they weren't in the The United States.

.088 wrote:Its the Russian collusion hoax all over again. They say the big scary orange man did something because they feel it. There is no evidence of it. No one actually heard or saw it.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:58 am

88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:54 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:49 am Blah blah blah a lot.
Don’t discuss the testimony.
Trust the process.

Sin,
88ovens

Post his testimony. I did. Where does it support anything you say? I thought you claimed to be a trial lawyer. Do your client's get sent to jail because someone who does not have any direct information about them presumes they are guilty of something?

When I go to trial the jury actually listens to what we present, well at least some do. I told you 100 times the evidence is the the memo Drumph released.

Play dumb all you want. That doesn’t change any facts.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:01 am

.088 wrote:Its the Russian collusion hoax all over again. They say the big scary orange man did something because they feel it. There is no evidence of it. No one actually heard or saw it.

It isn't the same because f@t Huggy Barr has not come out to lie to the American people about what has been presented.


DId you not see Sondland's testimony?

All of the key U.S. players were operating with the understanding that Ukraine needed to make a public announcement of an investigation into Biden or else the congressionally appropriated funds would not be released.

All of these U.S. players were going rogue, en masse, in a direction opposite of what Donald wanted?

This is what you are selling now?





Within the call, which the WH chose to release...


Zelensky: We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense puroses.

Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though...


And Donald goes on to describe how they are supposed to look into Biden.

He also described how Ukraine was supposed to work with Rudy Giuliani.


1) What is Rudy Giuliani's position at the State Department?

2) All of the key U.S. players were operating rogue, en masse, you would have us believe. And yet right in this call we have U.S. #1, Donald, directly telling Zelensky that the aid was contingent upon him doing something.

"I would like you to do us a favor though."



Do you like being a major idiot for Donald Trump?

This is good for you?

It is your calling?

fucktard wrote:A real corrupt attorney general like loretta lynch got a pass from a hack like you.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:49 am Blah blah blah a lot.
Don’t discuss the testimony.
Trust the process.

Sin,
88ovens

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:23 am

fucktard wrote:A real corrupt attorney general like loretta lynch got a pass from a hack like you.

Link?





#fucktard

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:15 pm Where is the link to where I "gave Lynch a pass?"

Sack up or shut up, cum puddle.

88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:01 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:01 am

.088 wrote:Its the Russian collusion hoax all over again. They say the big scary orange man did something because they feel it. There is no evidence of it. No one actually heard or saw it.

DId you not see Sondland's testimony?

All of the key U.S. players were operating with the understanding that Ukraine needed to make a public announcement of an investigation into Biden or else the congressionally appropriated funds would not be released.

All of these U.S. players were going rogue, en masse, in a direction opposite of what Donald wanted?

This is what you are selling now?

You are one of the loons on the board, and I normally do not engage in communication with loons. It is pointless. And it will be again here. But I'll go ahead and respond to your delusional posts.

The testimony from everyone involved is that they did NOT communicate to Ukrainian officials that there was a requirement that Ukraine publicly announce the initiation of a corruption investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden as a precondition to obtaining U.S. financial aid for military purchases and a meeting with the President. Every witness said that it would be improper to do that, and that they would not and did not do it. The evidence shows that Ukraine had no fucking clue that the aid was suspended until September 5, 2019. How can you have a quid pro quo if the party being leveraged in that manner has no fucking clue that the aid is being held up? And the aid hold was lifted on September 11, 2019, despite Ukraine NOT having publicly announced any investigations of the obviously corrupt Bidens. Yes, many witnesses have testified that they presumed or assumed that the President must have intended for there to be a quid pro quo. They made their determinations based on whispers and innuendo flowing in the State Department and other executive branch agencies, which are filled with anti-Trumpers. But none of them spoke with or heard anything from the President that would substantiate their beliefs in the rumors. No one testified that Trump said these things. The only one who did speak to Trump on the matter, being Ambassador Sondland, was told by the President that there was no quid pro quo, and that all he wanted was for the Ukrainian president to do the right thing and follow through with the things he said during his campaign, one of which was to root out corruption in Ukraine. That would include an investigation of Burisma, which was shoveling millions of dollars to Biden's cocaine-addled and completely unqualified son during a time when Biden's father was in charge of U.S. policy to Ukraine. This is the actual evidence, despite Adam Schiff's efforts to cobble together something different. If you have any evidence that proves the opposite, post it here.

This is exactly the same bullshit that Mueller chased after. Everyone in DC and the press was 100% certain that there was some Russian coordination, collusion, conspiracy etc. with Trump during the 2016 election. After two years and $25M there was absolutely fucking nothing. Zilch. Even the Democrat operatives Mueller hired had to admit in the report that there was no evidence that any U.S. person colluded or conspired with Russia during the 2016 election. Game fucking over.

The press and the administrative state in this country are dangerously awful. They tell President Bush that Iraq has WMD's and get hundreds of thousands of people killed when they are wrong. No apology. In fact, they blame Bush for doing what they said to do. The are almost always wrong. Like you. You countenance this kind of government and press. You are part of the problem. You crave state control, and willingly lap up lies to further your desire to have the state pound everyone down to your despicable level.

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:30 pm I'm literally overflowing with tears of joy and admiration at this post.

I've been around a long time.
This response by 88 is logical, factually perfect and strikes a death blow to everything the democrats are doing.

I'm glad to be on the same board as you
I use a ton of hyperbole and colorful language because my intellect is not at your level.
That's more of a testament to your superiority than to my inferiority, as I'm a pretty smart character.
But you sir, are at a level that none of us are familiar with.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:44 pm Alright, who let 88's mom register the EAP troll?

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:41 pm

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:30 pm I'm literally overflowing with tears of joy and admiration at this post.

I've been around a long time.
This response by 88 is logical, factually perfect and strikes a death blow to everything the democrats are doing.

I'm glad to be on the same board as you
I use a ton of hyperbole and colorful language because my intellect is not at your level.
That's more of a testament to your superiority than to my inferiority, as I'm a pretty smart character.
But you sir, are at a level that none of us are familiar with.

Are you able to make a post at this board without blowing 88braincells? You are pitiful.

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:37 am You are too young and stupid to remember 84.
Reagan took the entire country when the dems put up a left wing weirdo.

Innocent Bystander wrote:

BSmack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:37 pm You're saying the President of the United States would threaten harm to a member of a witness's family? Even Trump supporters believe him to be a criminal.

Nah, he's saying expect Sondland to disappoint observers who want him to spill his guts snitching. Since that didn't happen, now what?

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:19 am
70% of voters believe Trump violated his oath of office.

He's guaranteed to get impeached and the Senate won't convict, but every single GOP senator who votes against conviction who is up for election in the next two years is going to be voted from office.

It's going to be a total GOP bloodbath if the Senate doesn't vote to impeach Trump. America is sick and tired of the Trump organized crime syndicate and it's especially tired of Trump's whores who say "how wide" when he whips his cock out, you pathetic sacks of shit.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:13 pm 88nazis,
A) No one testified they talked to Drump because most all of the people talking to Drump won’t testify.
B) The call where Drump says no QPQ is after the whistle blower complaint was made public.
C) The money was released after the whistle was blown.
D) President Z knew the money was being held up and still didn’t announce the investigation because he knew that was wrong and has more integrity than your orange leader.
E) Every witness said it was improper to ask for a QPQ and yet Cheetolini did it anyways.
F) You guys had 2 years unencumbered to look into Biden and you didn’t just like you had two years to fund a wall and you didn’t. Why? Because you don’t really want a wall or an investigation, you just want to bitch about them.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:33 pm No, they really want a wall. They're just too fucking stupid to realize they can never accomplish it.

Prosecutors Investigating the Trump Organization Zero In on Trump CFO Allen Weisselberg

Weisselberg is one of the Trump Organization’s longest tenured employees and is now co-running the business. He escaped federal prosecution for the Stormy Daniels payments but is now a focus of an investigation by Manhattan’s district attorney.


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.’s criminal investigation of the Trump Organization is scrutinizing the actions of one of the president’s oldest and most trusted deputies, ProPublica has learned.

The focus on Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, a 72-year-old accountant now running the business with Trump’s two adult sons, stems from his involvement in arranging a payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump (which Trump has denied).

Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, or SDNY, contended that the Trump Organization had improperly booked reimbursements for the hush-money scheme as “legal expenses,” with the aid of sham invoices. They granted legal immunity to Weisselberg and later closed their 18-month investigation with the guilty plea of one Trump associate, Michael Cohen. But Weisselberg’s immunity deal applied only to federal proceedings.

Now Vance’s state grand jury is examining whether Weisselberg, among others — and even the Trump Organization — should face state criminal charges for falsification of business records, according to a source familiar with the investigation. Neither Weisselberg nor the Trump Organization responded to requests for comment. Vance, through a spokesman, declined to comment.

A handful of lawyers and investigators from Vance’s office, led by Chris Conroy, chief of the DA’s major economic crimes bureau, traveled to the federal minimum-security prison camp in Otisville, New York, on Oct. 30 to meet for the third time with Cohen, who is serving a three-year prison sentence, according to two sources knowledgeable about the matter.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:30 pm Schifty keeps telling us that all of the Barisma shennanigans were "discredited".

Can someone please explain to me how they were discredited?

All I have heard so far is that there is no evidence that there was corruption.

We have a life long drug addict with no apparent qualifications other than a last name, receiving a rather nice payday from Barisma.

Has there been a congressional investigation into this?

We do know that there was some sort of investigation done by the Ukrainians a few years back, until Joe dropped the hammer on it and then bragged about it on video tape.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:22 pm Paging Softball Bat!

https://www.propublica.org/article/pros ... eisselberg

Prosecutors Investigating the Trump Organization Zero In on Trump CFO Allen Weisselberg

Weisselberg is one of the Trump Organization’s longest tenured employees and is now co-running the business. He escaped federal prosecution for the Stormy Daniels payments but is now a focus of an investigation by Manhattan’s district attorney.


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.’s criminal investigation of the Trump Organization is scrutinizing the actions of one of the president’s oldest and most trusted deputies, ProPublica has learned.

The focus on Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, a 72-year-old accountant now running the business with Trump’s two adult sons, stems from his involvement in arranging a payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump (which Trump has denied).

Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, or SDNY, contended that the Trump Organization had improperly booked reimbursements for the hush-money scheme as “legal expenses,” with the aid of sham invoices. They granted legal immunity to Weisselberg and later closed their 18-month investigation with the guilty plea of one Trump associate, Michael Cohen. But Weisselberg’s immunity deal applied only to federal proceedings.

Now Vance’s state grand jury is examining whether Weisselberg, among others — and even the Trump Organization — should face state criminal charges for falsification of business records, according to a source familiar with the investigation. Neither Weisselberg nor the Trump Organization responded to requests for comment. Vance, through a spokesman, declined to comment.

A handful of lawyers and investigators from Vance’s office, led by Chris Conroy, chief of the DA’s major economic crimes bureau, traveled to the federal minimum-security prison camp in Otisville, New York, on Oct. 30 to meet for the third time with Cohen, who is serving a three-year prison sentence, according to two sources knowledgeable about the matter.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:30 pm Schifty keeps telling us that all of the Barisma shennanigans were "discredited".

Can someone please explain to me how they were discredited?

All I have heard so far is that there is no evidence that there was corruption.

We have a life long drug addict with no apparent qualifications other than a last name, receiving a rather nice payday from Barisma.

Has there been a congressional investigation into this?

We do know that there was some sort of investigation done by the Ukrainians a few years back, until Joe dropped the hammer on it and then bragged about it on video tape.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:20 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:30 pm Schifty keeps telling us that all of the Barisma shennanigans were "discredited".

Can someone please explain to me how they were discredited?

All I have heard so far is that there is no evidence that there was corruption.

We have a life long drug addict with no apparent qualifications other than a last name, receiving a rather nice payday from Barisma.

Has there been a congressional investigation into this?

We do know that there was some sort of investigation done by the Ukrainians a few years back, until Joe dropped the hammer on it and then bragged about it on video tape.

You really are a tard. It has been discredited because Cheetolini has been in office for years and he and the FBI have found no evidence other than its shady looking, which it is. No ledger, no tape, no bank records, no testimony, no depositions, no charges.
And Joe dropped the hammer on the guy who wasn’t investigating. How about Rick Perry getting contracts for his friends from Ukrainians over the summer? How is that for whataboutism?

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:53 pm Blah blah blah.
I’m not a dem you fucking tard, I don’t care how many you take down.

Moving Sale wrote:A) No one testified they talked to Drump because most all of the people talking to Drump won’t testify.
B) The call where Drump says no QPQ is after the whistle blower complaint was made public.
C) The money was released after the whistle was blown.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:22 pm Paging Softball Bat!

https://www.propublica.org/article/pros ... eisselberg

Prosecutors Investigating the Trump Organization Zero In on Trump CFO Allen Weisselberg

Weisselberg is one of the Trump Organization’s longest tenured employees and is now co-running the business. He escaped federal prosecution for the Stormy Daniels payments but is now a focus of an investigation by Manhattan’s district attorney.


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.’s criminal investigation of the Trump Organization is scrutinizing the actions of one of the president’s oldest and most trusted deputies, ProPublica has learned.

The focus on Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, a 72-year-old accountant now running the business with Trump’s two adult sons, stems from his involvement in arranging a payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump (which Trump has denied).

Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, or SDNY, contended that the Trump Organization had improperly booked reimbursements for the hush-money scheme as “legal expenses,” with the aid of sham invoices. They granted legal immunity to Weisselberg and later closed their 18-month investigation with the guilty plea of one Trump associate, Michael Cohen. But Weisselberg’s immunity deal applied only to federal proceedings.

Now Vance’s state grand jury is examining whether Weisselberg, among others — and even the Trump Organization — should face state criminal charges for falsification of business records, according to a source familiar with the investigation. Neither Weisselberg nor the Trump Organization responded to requests for comment. Vance, through a spokesman, declined to comment.

A handful of lawyers and investigators from Vance’s office, led by Chris Conroy, chief of the DA’s major economic crimes bureau, traveled to the federal minimum-security prison camp in Otisville, New York, on Oct. 30 to meet for the third time with Cohen, who is serving a three-year prison sentence, according to two sources knowledgeable about the matter.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:20 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:30 pm Schifty keeps telling us that all of the Barisma shennanigans were "discredited".

Can someone please explain to me how they were discredited?

All I have heard so far is that there is no evidence that there was corruption.

We have a life long drug addict with no apparent qualifications other than a last name, receiving a rather nice payday from Barisma.

Has there been a congressional investigation into this?

We do know that there was some sort of investigation done by the Ukrainians a few years back, until Joe dropped the hammer on it and then bragged about it on video tape.

You really are a tard. It has been discredited because Cheetolini has been in office for years and he and the FBI have found no evidence other than its shady looking, which it is. No ledger, no tape, no bank records, no testimony, no depositions, no charges.
And Joe dropped the hammer on the guy who wasn’t investigating. How about Rick Perry getting contracts for his friends from Ukrainians over the summer? How is that for whataboutism?

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:11 pm And same with Don the Con eh?
Or is he an exception?