California hypocrisy on display once again...

[Kierland]

Further proof you can't stay on a topic and inevitably turn to just typing smears and shit.

Fuck off you fat retard.

[Kierland]

Fat
Melting
Tard

[EAP]

trust the process
liberty and Raygun
blah blah blah

Reagan and his lovely wife gave generously to multiple charities.
Same thing with Romney and his beautiful wife Ann

Not only millions upon millions of dollars, but their time as well.

Several studies have shown that conservatives are way more giving than left wing nutjobs such as yourself.

You are a fake news cum guzzling Bernie loving fool.
So don't be surprised if you have ZERO credibility in here or out in the real world.

[Diego in Seattle]

trust the process
liberty and Raygun
blah blah blah

Reagan and his lovely wife gave generously to multiple charities.
Same thing with Romney and his beautiful wife Ann

Not only millions upon millions of dollars, but their time as well.

Several studies have shown that conservatives are way more giving than left wing nutjobs such as yourself.

You are a fake news cum guzzling Bernie loving fool.
So don't be surprised if you have ZERO credibility in here or out in the real world.

Speaking of batshit cray....



I don't give a frosty rat's ass about contributions to religious organizations.

And stop pulling such blatant bullshit out of your ass, as you're making this place unreadable. Care to hook us up with a couple of links that show just a couple of those studies that say that conservatives are more giving? Do you even understand the meaning of the term "conservative?"

[Left Seater]

I don’t know about conservatives, but Republicans are far more likely to donate than Democrats. Further it isn’t just socioeconomic. Rich Republicans and more likely to donate than rich Democrats.

https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articl ... 03479.html

[Kierland]

What a crock of shit. Some dude telling us what some study says? No methodology. Just conclusions and again, given how much you have lied especially lately I not believing your conclusions about what some guys says about some study.

[Kierland]

Nice white flag. It’s a very fat white flag but nice none the less.

[Kierland]

Fat
Inbred
Idiot

[Left Seater]

You want the study, here is a link to get it.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 4018804088

The NYTimes even covered it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/you ... hropy.html


Just because you don’t like it hardly makes something a lie. Rather it tells us a ton about you.

[Kierland]

Two firewalls.
Thanks.
And I didn’t say it was a lie (obviously you can’t read) I said the conclusion that it was true was a crock of shit based on what you linked to.

And just so we don’t have to go round and round with you saying shit is true when it’s isn’t.

https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.ph ... 94&EXT=pdf


Actual paper. No firewall.

[Diego in Seattle]

The NYTimes even covered it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/your ... hropy.html


Just because you don’t like it hardly makes something a lie. Rather it tells us a ton about you.

First off, the study involved only tax returns that were itemized. If they could have captured how those who take the standard deduction as well the survey could be quite different.

[quote="NY Times"}Dr. Nesbit said they also did not know whether donors were being purely generous or whether they would also benefit from their donation. This relationship is called consumption philanthropy, in which people give to a religious organization or a school from which they will derive a benefit in the form of, say, a better religious education program or a new gymnasium.[/quote]

WTF does a donation to an art museum do for most indigent Americans?

And giving to religious organizations not only doesn't guarantee the a better situation for most Americans, giving money to some religious organizations (like the Catholic Church) could be viewed as detrimental.

Those in favor of lower taxes have argued that individuals are more capable than the government of allocating money to important causes, including people in need of assistance. But the study found that was not true. Donations do not match government assistance, and without tax money, social services are not funded as robustly.

“The evidence shows that private philanthropy can’t compensate for the loss of government provision,” Dr. Nesbit said. “It’s not equal. What government can put into these things is so much more than what we see through private philanthropy.”

So you Republicans can stop trotting out the tired old argument that we need to allow churches to be tax-free. They don't necessarily compensate for government provision, and to actually rely on religious organizations to provide provide provision is a violation of the 1st Amendment.

Edit for UBB code correction

[Left Seater]

Two firewalls.
Thanks.
And I didn’t say it was a lie (obviously you can’t read) I said the conclusion that it was true was a crock of shit based on what you linked to.

And just so we don’t have to go round and round with you saying shit is true when it’s isn’t.

Hence I linked you up to the actual study. Sorry you have to pay for it

[Left Seater]

Diego,

You can move the goal posts all you want. The facts are you asked for a link and I provided it. Regardless of if you like or agree with where the donations go, doesn’t change facts.

Republicans donate and Democrats take.

[Kierland]

Your link is full of shit and even if it was right it doesn’t say Ds take. What a disgusting POS you are.

[Kierland]

Two firewalls.
Thanks.
And I didn’t say it was a lie (obviously you can’t read) I said the conclusion that it was true was a crock of shit based on what you linked to.

And just so we don’t have to go round and round with you saying shit is true when it’s isn’t.

Hence I linked you up to the actual study. Sorry you have to pay for it

I could always eat cake.

[Left Seater]

Again, just because you don’t like it doesn’t invalidate it. Suck it tiny.

[Kierland]

I can’t see it tard.

[Left Seater]

Eat your grandpa’s cake. Thanks for your donation to the IRS, oh wait.

Ya, keep on demanding payment up front from your clients.

[Kierland]

Wtf are you babbling about now.
None of you idiots can go 10 posts without twisting yourself into a knot.

[TONTO]

Tonto see fat-man get emotional like gay sissy man.

Tonto think this why Squaw have no papoose.

Squaw like straight-arrow and not limp barley blowing in prairie wind.

[Kierland]

[EAP]

trust the process
liberty and Raygun
blah blah blah

Reagan and his lovely wife gave generously to multiple charities.
Same thing with Romney and his beautiful wife Ann

Not only millions upon millions of dollars, but their time as well.

Several studies have shown that conservatives are way more giving than left wing nutjobs such as yourself.

You are a fake news cum guzzling Bernie loving fool.
So don't be surprised if you have ZERO credibility in here or out in the real world.

Speaking of batshit cray....



I don't give a frosty rat's ass about contributions to religious organizations.

And stop pulling such blatant bullshit out of your ass, as you're making this place unreadable. Care to hook us up with a couple of links that show just a couple of those studies that say that conservatives are more giving? Do you even understand the meaning of the term "conservative?"

EVERY response from you is a fuckin lie.
Are you capable of telling the truth at all?
Did you say religious organizations?
Some of the richest conservatives on earth, donate to the arts, medicine, various charities, etc....BUT since you're a low IQ fool, you simplify it to just religion alone.
This is why NO ONE takes you seriously.

[Kierland]

What does that have to do with Crazy Nancy?

[EAP]

Tonto see fat-man get emotional like gay sissy man.

Tonto think this why Squaw have no papoose.

Squaw like straight-arrow and not limp barley blowing in prairie wind.

Tonto drinks cum from Lone Ranger. And then sucks all cum from his horse, Scout.

[EAP]

What does that have to do with Crazy Nancy?

The topic was conservatives being way more philanthropic than left wing scum.
A great example is Joe Biden thru the years.
Diego is so fucking stupid, that he links a study by a left wing Dr.
What's he expect a lying left wing nutjob to say?
The reality is that government is the most ineffective and inefficient means to distribute anything.
Study after study confirms that.
Each and every year, beurocracy gets in the way of itself, causing billions in pure waste.
They've shown specific examples where a hammer cost $5000. A light bulb costing $750.
A screw costing $200. We're talking MAJOR LEAGUE WASTE.
ANYONE with an IQ above retard levels, fully understands that the private sector and the private philanthropic donors, are the most efficient at getting money where it needs to go.
Government is ALWAYS the least efficient means of getting things done.
Diego is a simple minded sheep, who quotes left wing hacks, thinking we will be duped like him.
But every time he links to a left wing source, we just nod our heads in disbelief.

[EAP]

Your link is full of shit and even if it was right it doesn’t say Ds take. What a disgusting POS you are.

Hey buddy? Diego's link was pure shit.
Once again, Diego links to a left wing nutjob.
The koch brothers totally invalidated Diego's claim.
Two very famous philanthropic conservatives, the koch brothers regularly gave millions upon millions of dollars to the arts, medical centers, research grants, etc....
But Diego once again links up to a mentally disturbed left wing nutjob. And expects us to be gullible and duped like he is.
Sorry Diego.
We're not as dumb as you.

[Kierland]

redundancy

The topic was donations fatty.

[Left Seater]

Your link is full of shit and even if it was right it doesn’t say Ds take. What a disgusting POS you are.

Why do you continue to lie? The story said the more Republican a county is the higher the giving level. It also said the more Democratic the more likely for the money to be redistributed there.

The more Republican a county is, the more its residents report charitable contributions, the study found.
The researchers said this finding fell within the broad political tendencies of traditional Republicans who favor less government intervention and more donations from the private sector to make up for the lack of government assistance.
“Their preference is to provide for the collective good through private institutions,” said Professor Nesbit. “But we don’t know what type of institutions they’re giving to.”

Wealth redistribution is higher in Democratic-leaning counties

Further your self righteous act is sad. You lie and use it to then make personal attacks. You aren’t any better than anyone else here, in fact you are probably worse. You want to come off as all high and mighty, but your actions are completely different than your words. Sad and pathetic.

[Kierland]

Good god you are an idiot. I know what it SAID. It's not correct. You THINK WD is higher with Ds because you don't COUNT all the bailouts as WD. You don't COUNT all the tax and regulation and whatnot that favors Big Biz. Make people jump thru a million hoops and the richer people will be able to do it. Again just look at the bailout. Money straight tot he accounts of big biz, a million forms for everyone else. You do COUNT giving money to pedophile priests. MY study put all that to bed, but you didn't read it. You just got in your head that you are better than everyone else and you are running with it. I could do that to, easy, but I have a conscious. I don't just hoard money and make excuses for why it is necessary.

[Left Seater]

No, I read some of your paper, it doesn’t refute at all the one I linked too. Yours tries and fails, I can see why you would like it given that.

the large bivariate relationship between giving and conservatism vanishes after adjusting for differences in income and religiosity.

No shit. No one with a Brian needs a study to tell us that. The poor aren’t donating and the non-religious aren’t donating to a church.


But the real issue is your study draws their conclusions at a state level.

At the state level, we find no evidence of a relationship between charitable giving and Republican presidential voteshare.

State vs county is a huge difference. And just because you don’t believe in religion doesn’t mean donations to it aren’t charitable giving. And more of the high and mighty words from you, but your actions don’t match. Get back to us when you bill your clients after the fact.

Another swing and a miss from you.

[Kierland]

So Rs are not more generous outside of religion, they are just more religious. That's the whole point idiot.

[Left Seater]

Fail.

Again you just want to move the goal posts. Further religious organizations do a ton of charity heavy lifting.

Sorry the facts keep kicking your ass, but it is what it is.

[Kierland]

Some do some don't. The point is your methodology sucks. You have no idea who "gives" more and who is more "generous" because there is no way to know and it depends on what one means. You had a take that you can't back up and now it is my fault if I don't believe you. What a tard.

[Left Seater]

Some do some don't. The point is your methodology sucks. You have no idea who "gives" more and who is more "generous" because there is no way to know and it depends on what one means. You had a take that you can't back up and now it is my fault if I don't believe you. What a tard.

Another fail. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t make it false.


Kick, scream, spin, melt down and turn in the keys to your log in again, just stop with the lies.

[Kierland]

I didn't say it was false you fucking lying twat. I said it was unproven, unknown, unknowable. Learn to read English please.

[Left Seater]

Another fail.

Everyone has to file with the IRS. The study took the amount of charitable giving from the tax returns.

But keep right on lying. It’s what you do.

[Kierland]

And that is what that is which is not Rs are more generous or more giving than Ds. You made the claim and you can't back it up and now it's my fault, again, somehow.

[EAP]

Orange County has over 3 million residents and only had about 30 deaths from Covid 19. Most I bet have been at the several senior living facilities in the county.

Yet according to screw and Kierland, this thing is deadly!

Make no mistake. If you've already got one foot on a banana peel? It's serious.
If your diet is like kierland's, capt'n crunch and ding dongs?
It's a killer.

[Kierland]

I'm eating a bowl of swiss chard, but I'm sure that is somehow leftist seeing as "swiss" is in the name.

[EAP]

I'm eating a bowl of swiss chard, but I'm sure that is somehow leftist seeing as "swiss" is in the name.

try some swiss dark chocolate instead.