Papa Willie wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 12:44 am
C'mon, man. They could have easily gotten the cuffs on him after minute 2 of the knee being in the throat.
It should have been obvious w/in 30 seconds of cuffing him as to whether it was sufficient. If it was sufficient they should have moved him in the back of one of their units, and if not they should have hogtied him. This arrest was definitely outside of department policy (as well as the law).
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:38 am
by smackaholic
From the video I just saw, he already was in cuffs. That cop had most of his weight on his knee which was on his neck. And he wasn’t struggling. He was simply sitting there like a sadistic asshole, punishing Floyd for resisting earlier, I’d guess.
schmick wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 10:17 pm
So an oversized man was resisting the police and fighting them while they try to restrain an oversized man who is fighting them..
But because the oversized man is black, its a racially motivated execution and not just an oversized man who brought it upon himself by trying to bully the police? Got it.
Boy, are you stupid!
How many officers do you see attempting to restrain Floyd?
I wasn't there, I have no idea what the situation was. Since you were obviously there I will defer to your first hand knowledge of the situation
I wasn't there, but the news reports all say that there were 4 officers there. Additionally, 4 officers were fired from the department as a result of this homicide. Common sense would tell someone of reasonable intelligence that there were 4 officers there.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:56 am
by Diego in Seattle
Innocent Bystander wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:09 pm
What are other cops saying about how this was handled,
From a Facebook page for LE & their followers:
"I write this as a veteran Police Officer and I am saddened and disgusted. Some of the comments from so-called law enforcement officers is simply mind boggling. It’s apparent some will defend cops no matter what. Yes, we are entitled to due process. Yes we are innocent until proven guilty. However, we also are responsible for policing our own, stepping in to stop wrong doing and holding ourselves to a higher standard. I am usually the first one to say “wait until a full investigation is completed” before offering an opinion. Sometimes we just need to speak up when something looks or feels wrong, even when it’s one of our own. It’s painful and it sucks but it’s real. THIS is where we earn the public trust, by being real. Defending the line, at all costs, isn’t working out for us. Sometimes we make mistakes. Sometimes it’s a lack of training. Sometimes we’re just plain wrong. Imagine how different things would be if just one officer said these words: “Get off his neck, he got him!”
I’ve worked as a law enforcement officer long enough to know there are people who shouldn’t be wearing the badge and many who have tarnished it. Right now, the badge is tarnished and it saddens me greatly. I’ve unfortunately watched as life left many people during my career and this was not easier to watch. These experiences will haunt me forever. George Floyd didn’t deserve to die and this is not the image I want associated with my chosen profession.
If you’re a cop who wants to justify this or post threatening comments or messages, check yourself, unfollow this page and consider a new career.
For the outraged citizens who follow this page, most of us are just as outraged and it certainly does not reflect law enforcement as a whole.
We’re better than this."
Innocent Bystander wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:09 pm
What are other cops saying about how this was handled,
From a Facebook page for LE & their followers:
"I write this as a veteran Police Officer and I am saddened and disgusted. Some of the comments from so-called law enforcement officers is simply mind boggling. It’s apparent some will defend cops no matter what. Yes, we are entitled to due process. Yes we are innocent until proven guilty. However, we also are responsible for policing our own, stepping in to stop wrong doing and holding ourselves to a higher standard. I am usually the first one to say “wait until a full investigation is completed” before offering an opinion. Sometimes we just need to speak up when something looks or feels wrong, even when it’s one of our own. It’s painful and it sucks but it’s real. THIS is where we earn the public trust, by being real. Defending the line, at all costs, isn’t working out for us. Sometimes we make mistakes. Sometimes it’s a lack of training. Sometimes we’re just plain wrong. Imagine how different things would be if just one officer said these words: “Get off his neck, he got him!”
I’ve worked as a law enforcement officer long enough to know there are people who shouldn’t be wearing the badge and many who have tarnished it. Right now, the badge is tarnished and it saddens me greatly. I’ve unfortunately watched as life left many people during my career and this was not easier to watch. These experiences will haunt me forever. George Floyd didn’t deserve to die and this is not the image I want associated with my chosen profession.
If you’re a cop who wants to justify this or post threatening comments or messages, check yourself, unfollow this page and consider a new career.
For the outraged citizens who follow this page, most of us are just as outraged and it certainly does not reflect law enforcement as a whole.
We’re better than this."
Thank you.
Any bad officers such as this one deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Period.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:20 am
by Diego in Seattle
I'm a bit intoxicated at the moment, so I hope this comes out clear...
The big question for LE in general is whether those cops have a history of UOF abuses. If there are & they either retained them or hired them from another agency they will be giving LE a balck eye as much as the officers themselves.
And then there's this. Self-centered piles of shit who never gave a single fuck about George Floyd...
There were numerous cases of social distancing violations there. Somebody call the cops.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:45 pm
by Derron
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:07 pm
I haven't seen much on the protests yet.
Duly noted. So anything you say is basically conjecture and wild ass guesses at this point.
They look like racists/hypocrites when they use rubber bullets & tear gas on unarmed protesters
The "unarmed" protestor's who are throwing rocks, concrete bricks, flaming bottles of gasoline at them, destroying others property and looting stores??
yet use no force on armed protesters in the Michigan statehouse.
The protestor's who are peacefully exercising their 2nd Amendment rights with no violence ? Those guys ?? They have guns.....shoot those fuckers where they stand for carrying guns. Storm the capital and remove the protestors by any means, including violence against them. You know why they did not remove them ?? Because they had legally carried firearms.
Governors need to start calling out the NG for these MAGA protests (I'm looking at Michigan & Kentucky).
Fuck yeah ....get the National Guard out to round up those fucking Trump supporters at their rallies....because they support Trump, just round those fuckers up, stand them up against the wall and blow their brains out. Care to point out the glaring differences between the Minneapolis riots where you claim police brutality and a peaceful political rally of Trump supporters where no crimes were committed ?? The main difference is that you agree with one and feel the other should be summarily silenced.
The irony is overwhelming.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:50 pm
by Derron
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:20 am
I'm a bit intoxicated at the moment, so I hope this comes out clear...
Sounds like a great time to go to T1B and mash out a couple of takes. Disclaimer duly noted.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:42 pm
by smackaholic
Diego,
What are your thoughts on Kent State?
I mean you seem to think that unleashing NG troops on protestors is a good idea, right?
4 dead in Ohio?
Were they wearing MAGA hats? If so, shoulda been 40. Maybe 400.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:53 pm
by smackaholic
Next question to the race arsonists.
Do you think Floyd would have received the same treatment were he white?
Not sure what happened during the video gap between peaceful arrest and kneeling on his neck.
If I had to guess, I'd say Floyd did/said something that pissed off the sadistic asshole cop.
SAC then decided to show that kneeeguh a little respect. Trouble is, he sucks at the police brutality game and wayyyyy overplayed it, resulting in one very dead negro.
Do you think he would have received a similar lack of respect from some white trash POS any differently?
Would he have said, Mr Floyd, that wasn't nice what you did. Maybe shook his finger at him. Maybe just slapped him around a bit?
Prolly not.
My guess is that SAC would have had WTPOS face down, knee on his neck. Only difference would have been no one else giving a fukk and turning it into a national story.
If I was a SAC, I would likely prefer honkey targets as the chance of being held responsible, in this day and age, would be lower.
To believe this was a racial thing means believing that SAC was midway through a calm, run of the mill arrest when he said to himself "wait a second, this dude's a fukking kneeeeguh, I gotta sit on his neck for about 6 minutes before we bring him in."
Is that the scenario you are going with?
Dude was cuffed because he forged a check, while balck?
And then midway through the arrest, he decides to choke him to death, just cause he's balck?
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:55 pm
by Screw_Michigan
smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 4:53 pm
Do you think Floyd would have received the same treatment were he white?
Of course not.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:08 pm
by smackaholic
Are you saying that whites are not subject to police brutality?
Are you really THAT fukking stupid?
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:30 pm
by L45B
schmick wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 6:18 am2 leftists discussing how much the news lies
Not sure about the other guy, but Dave Rubin is definitely not a leftist. He could be considered a liberal, but given today’s ultra left tilt, he is probably more a modern conservative.
And that was exactly why that cop kneeled on dudes neck. You should understand.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
by Screw_Michigan
smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:08 pm
Are you saying that whites are not subject to police brutality?
Are you really THAT fukking stupid?
Can you even fucking read? It is a fact that blacks are subject to police brutality at a greater rate than white people. Beside, you trying to make this debate about race diverts from the fact that NOBODY deserves to be summarily executed by police for whatever reason.
Do try to keep up, you monumental lunkhead.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:54 pm
And that was exactly why that cop kneeled on dudes neck. You should understand.
Another black man summarily executed by the state. Duhron applauds.
schmick wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 7:52 pm
Not taking sides in a conflict I wasn't there to witness.
Was dude resisting arrest?
He had a warrant for FELONY FORGERY!
the cops spent 10 minutes trying to get him in cuffs and put him in the car....
You really are fucking retarded. He was in cuffs from the minute they took him out of his car. He was in cuffs the entire 8 or 10 minutes he was face down in the street with a knee buried in his neck.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:03 pm
by The Big Pickle
He was fighting the cops for 10 minutes before they got the cuffs on him....
Once they got the cuffs on him he fought them for another 10 minutes trying to get him in the police car
The reason he was on the ground is because he jumped out of the cop car once they finally got him in there....
Just like Trayvon, Just like Michael Brown, just like every other black that got killed resisting arrest the truth
will come out.
Once again....Goober will be the RETARD!
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:14 pm
by Innocent Bystander
The Big Pickle wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Killing Zulus
raBNUUj1-fY
Oh my God....I had three orgasms...killing Zulu makes me cum hard......
Everybody in those photos is dead. What would they think of USA 2020? Sometimes the more things change ... they really have changed. Or is it a matter of distinctions not making a difference?
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:24 pm
by Innocent Bystander
The Big Pickle wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 10:03 pm
He was fighting the cops for 10 minutes before they got the cuffs on him....
Once they got the cuffs on him he fought them for another 10 minutes trying to get him in the police car
The reason he was on the ground is because he jumped out of the cop car once they finally got him in there....
Just like Trayvon, Just like Michael Brown, just like every other black that got killed resisting arrest the truth
will come out.
Those cops intentionally killed Floyd, BP. You didn't really nut over that, did you? Are you voting Democrat this year?
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:42 pm
by Diego in Seattle
IB;
Why are you continuing to engage with this racist?
He's not so much defending the cop but more so defending a racist murder. The police chief has even said that none of those cops complied with department policy. The only reason to continue defending the racist former cops is to defend the murder of minorities.
Stop giving the board pieces of racist shit acknowledgement.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:03 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
It is a fact that blacks are subject to police brutality at a greater rate than white people. Beside, you trying to make this debate about race diverts from the fact that NOBODY deserves to be summarily executed by police for whatever reason.
I will ignore your lack of self awareness in those two sentences to ask this question. Do you have a link to data showing police brutality broken down by race? I have been trying to help find some but haven't been able to. Serious question.
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
It is a fact that blacks are subject to police brutality at a greater rate than white people. Beside, you trying to make this debate about race diverts from the fact that NOBODY deserves to be summarily executed by police for whatever reason.
I will ignore your lack of self awareness in those two sentences to ask this question. Do you have a link to data showing police brutality broken down by race? I have been trying to help find some but haven't been able to. Serious question.
I don't have a link but I do know that the FBI maintains records on police UOF (among other things).
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:44 pm
by Wolfman
Anyone here ever been at least "pulled over" by a cop and notice that the cop is being an asshole/belligerent should know enough not to make things worse by talking back or remotely seeming to show disrespect.
Been there and realized it is best to keep my mouth shut.
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
It is a fact that blacks are subject to police brutality at a greater rate than white people. Beside, you trying to make this debate about race diverts from the fact that NOBODY deserves to be summarily executed by police for whatever reason.
I will ignore your lack of self awareness in those two sentences to ask this question. Do you have a link to data showing police brutality broken down by race? I have been trying to help find some but haven't been able to. Serious question.
I don't have a link but I do know that the FBI maintains records on police UOF (among other things).
I saw something from the FBI, but it didn't break down the person on the receiving end of the force by race.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:56 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Wolfman wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:44 pm
Anyone here ever been at least "pulled over" by a cop and notice that the cop is being an asshole/belligerent should know enough not to make things worse by talking back or remotely seeming to show disrespect.
Been there and realized it is best to keep my mouth shut.
You're living decades into the past if you think that it's acceptable for cops to use extra force as the result of "talking back." If one can't do their job of peace officer while ignoring spiteful comments from suspects then they shouldn't be given the privilege of wearing a badge.
And that's not just how I feel, it's how the vast majority of LE feels as well.
This is turning into a huge black eye for LE that could have been avoided if the POS former officer had been disciplined for illegal UOF.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:31 am
by The Big Pickle
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:46 am
by Screw_Michigan
Wolfman wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:44 pm
Anyone here ever been at least "pulled over" by a cop and notice that the cop is being an asshole/belligerent should know enough not to make things worse by talking back or remotely seeming to show disrespect.
Been there and realized it is best to keep my mouth shut.
Talking back to the police doesn't give them the right you kill you. BTW, how are your 'rona parties going?
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:49 am
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:03 pm
I will ignore your lack of self awareness in those two sentences to ask this question. Do you have a link to data showing police brutality broken down by race? I have been trying to help find some but haven't been able to. Serious question.
Use your brain--white people get the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement much more often than balcks and latinos do. Beside, stop bitching about race. Law enforcement summarily executing citizens of any skin color is abhorrent and should be opposed at all costs. Of course, it's only conservatives who defend this practice.
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:03 pm
I will ignore your lack of self awareness in those two sentences to ask this question. Do you have a link to data showing police brutality broken down by race? I have been trying to help find some but haven't been able to. Serious question.
Use your brain--white people get the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement much more often than balcks and latinos do. Beside, stop bitching about race. Law enforcement summarily executing citizens of any skin color is abhorrent and should be opposed at all costs. Of course, it's only conservatives who defend this practice.
So you got nothing to back up your take, got it.
Agree on law enforcement killing citizens. But you want to make it racial without facts.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:33 am
by Softball Bat
It looked like a standard pro wrestling hold, so I
don't know why he died.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:57 am
by Innocent Bystander
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 10:42 pm
He's not so much defending the cop but more so defending a racist murder. The police chief has even said that none of those cops complied with department policy.
I know.
Cacs gonna cac.
Reading BP is therapeutic, Diego. BP is the underside of ivy along a gray wall, revealed during a spring thunderstorm.
I believe he's wrong about the justification of Floyd's execution. He's not close to being alone in his beliefs, though. Your LEO buddies condemn the execution; why aren't a significant number of civilians? It is as simple as racism; so why is it still as simple as racism?
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
It is a fact that blacks are subject to police brutality at a greater rate than white people. Beside, you trying to make this debate about race diverts from the fact that NOBODY deserves to be summarily executed by police for whatever reason.
I will ignore your lack of self awareness in those two sentences to ask this question. Do you have a link to data showing police brutality broken down by race? I have been trying to help find some but haven't been able to. Serious question.
I have anecdotal evidence which is good enough.
Sin,
Bizzaro88
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:32 am
by Kierland
And now the police station is on fire.
Outstanding.
“We are better than this.”
Sin,
Some pig
Yeah no you are not. That is exactly who you are and have always been and video has proven that point time after time after time after time.
You sir are a JUBM just like all the rest.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:44 am
by Kierland
Go fuck a duck you broad brush painting, broad brush painter hating numb nut.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:57 am
by EAP
Kierland wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:32 am
And now the police station is on fire.
Outstanding.
“We are better than this.”
Sin,
Some pig
Yeah no you are not. That is exactly who you are and have always been and video has proven that point time after time after time after time.
You sir are a JUBM just like all the rest.
Karma.
Ice cube says "we will strike back"
Note to ice cube. You've never stopped striking back.
Every single day in the inner cities, you rob, rape, murder, etc.
NONSTOP.
NOTE to kierfag.
Hopefully a career animal thug does a violent home invasion at your crib. Knock the stupid out of you.
These bad cops? Prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
But, violent animal felons need to invade kierfag's crib. The stupid gene is strong in his family.
Re: George Floyd
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 8:48 am
by Innocent Bystander
schmick wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:35 am
The second George Floyd is seen as a black person and not just a person, you fucked up. The same can be said.for the second you see the individual officers and attribute their wrong doings to all police officers.
Ain't this some shit... George whose old lady is white, and Derek whose old lady is Asian, worked together at the same Latino nightclub as security. The plot doesn't thicken, it starts to make sense.
Derek killed George for a reason. But for whom?
Was there ever really a forged 'document'? Who made the call at the store/restaurant?
Who were the other cops who also worked this joint?
The nightclub also housed La Raza radio, owned by the same lady who owned the nightclub. Which cartel is behind this?
schmick wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:35 am
The second George Floyd is seen as a black person and not just a person, you fucked up. The same can be said.for the second you see the individual officers and attribute their wrong doings to all police officers.
Ain't this some shit... George whose old lady is white, and Derek whose old lady is Asian, worked together at the same Latino nightclub as security. The plot doesn't thicken, it starts to make sense.
Derek killed George for a reason. But for whom?
Was there ever really a forged 'document'? Who made the call at the store/restaurant?
Who were the other cops who also worked this joint?
The nightclub also housed La Raza radio, owned by the same lady who owned the nightclub. Which cartel is behind this?
What did I tell you?
There's more to this than meets the eye.
La Raza is a racist organization.
Were you aware of this?
Don't play dumb, we have screw, Diego and Kierland for that.
