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Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:51 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:30 pm
Yeah now it’s a bit different, problem is you are too fatheaded to admit young people vaxxed saved many many lives.
So that’s the difference between you and me. I use facts, you use feelings. You will be randomly right from time to time, like a broken clock.
You are still living in a fantasy where the vax was 95% effective at preventing spread.
It wasn't. EVER.
I wish the fukk it was. Would have been nice to have bid adieu to this bullshit last spring as we had hoped would happen. But even then, people that ACTUALLY follow "the science" warned that mass vaccination using a leaky vaccine would result in an increased likelihood of variants, and viola, they were right. The "anti vaxxers" said the vaccines should have been administered to those at substantial risk and v=everyone else should have just got back to a normal life.
Fortunately, variants have a habit of diminishing nastiness, so now, looks like we'll finally get the vaccine in the form of omicron.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:43 am
by Kierland
Nobody said anything about 95% effective, and the variants got less lethal, so again that’s just you making shit up. Dump fast tracked a vax that most Dump lovers didn’t take and they died more than the Blues. All facts- all verifiable, just like your insanity. You got played and you will never admit it. Just like you will never admit you’re a traytorr.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:02 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:43 am
Nobody said anything about 95% effective, and the variants got less lethal, so again that’s just you making shit up. Dump fast tracked a vax that most Dump lovers didn’t take and they died more than the Blues. All facts- all verifiable, just like your insanity. You got played and you will never admit it. Just like you will never admit you’re a traytorr.
95% effective was an early number thrown around. I remember being very impressed that they could come up with something that effective, that quickly.
The difference between you and me is that my take didn't change the day it went from being Trump's vaccine to Biden's.
My take on it changed when the real world evidence showed it wasn't what they claimed, along with listening to a number of people's takes about just what this was and why giving such a new vax to people who'd get by fine without it might be a very bad idea.
This vax should have been targeted at those that were at risk, period. I consider myself part of that group and willingly took the jab.
But a healthy 26 year old such as Kyle Warner (3 time national mountain bike champ) shouldn't have. Sadly for him, the jabber hit a vein/artery and his health is ruined. There are numerous documented cases of young extremely healthy people out there with no danger of serious harm, that were seriously harmed....by the vax.
But go ahead and continue your "stop the spread" propaganda even though it has been proven, beyond any doubt that the vax does little to nothing in this area.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:40 pm
by Kierland
So you are going with more people were harmed than helped? A vax YOU took harmed more people than it helped? That is so stupid it could only come from a fatt stupid traytorr.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:12 pm
by Diego in Seattle
'holic, stop bleating about the same mountain biker over & over. That's called anecdotal evidence. The stats clearly establish that it's better for the vast majority of people to get vaccinated than to not. As I said months ago a county medical chief said that vaxxed people have become infected at a rate of 1 in 6 compared to unvaxxed.
Is that 95% protection? Obviously not. But it's a lot more protection than not having been vaxxed. And the less people who become infected means all that less people to transmit the virus to more people. Yes, it slows the spread.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:30 pm
by Kierland
DARE was a bunch of drug company/prison industrial complex propaganda. No wonder you fell for it like a sheep.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:35 pm
by Mikey
smackaholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:02 pm
But a healthy 26 year old such as Kyle Warner (3 time national mountain bike champ) shouldn't have. Sadly for him, the jabber hit a vein/artery and his health is ruined. There are numerous documented cases of young extremely healthy people out there with no danger of serious harm, that were seriously harmed....by the vax.
WTF? Did they vaccinate him in the side of his neck or something? You don't hit a vein or an artery with shoulder jab. If they did it's the fault of whoever stuck him, not the vaccine.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:10 am
by Softball Bat
Pfizer & Moderna Investors Run for the Exits
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... a126b.html
This is a long (but very interesting) read.
"Vax skeptics" will nod their head through much of it.
So we'll just wait and see how it plays out in the coming weeks, months...
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:53 am
by smackaholic
Papa Willie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:57 am
Gotta admit - it’s seriously odd that the left is taking up for big pharma in this instance.
Not in this case it isn't. Big Pharma is part of the machine here used to distinguish the faithful from the rebels.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:07 am
by smackaholic
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:12 pm
'holic, stop bleating about the same mountain biker over & over. That's called anecdotal evidence. The stats clearly establish that it's better for the vast majority of people to get vaccinated than to not. As I said months ago a county medical chief said that vaxxed people have become infected at a rate of 1 in 6 compared to unvaxxed.
Is that 95% protection? Obviously not. But it's a lot more protection than not having been vaxxed. And the less people who become infected means all that less people to transmit the virus to more people. Yes, it slows the spread.
If this was true, how do you explain skyrocketing rates of infection in very highly vaxed areas?
It is bullshit. He is talking about those ill enough to be admitted to the hospital and I have already listed factors such as extremely vulnerable people (and idiots) being a substantial number of the "unvaxxed".
There are 4 things we know for certain.
Young healthy people are statistically in no danger of severe illness from CV.
The best possible protection is natural immunity via exposure. The data shows no added protection from being vaxxed and surviving CV. The way out of this is to let it rip through the population that can tolerate it while quarantining the population that can't.
The vax does serve as a prophylaxis to severe illness. If you are statistically in danger of severe illness, I would recommend you get it.
No one knows long term effects. Only time will tell. What we do know is that an improperly administered jab which gets that shit into the bloodstream has been shown to fukk up extremely healthy people.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:19 am
by smackaholic
Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:35 pm
smackaholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:02 pm
But a healthy 26 year old such as Kyle Warner (3 time national mountain bike champ) shouldn't have. Sadly for him, the jabber hit a vein/artery and his health is ruined. There are numerous documented cases of young extremely healthy people out there with no danger of serious harm, that were seriously harmed....by the vax.
WTF? Did they vaccinate him in the side of his neck or something? You don't hit a vein or an artery with shoulder jab. If they did it's the fault of whoever stuck him, not the vaccine.
Did you watch his interview with Dr John Campbell?
Dr Campbell is a retired English Doc who does a daily podcast. He is in no way anti-vax, but he hasn't drank the everyne get a jab kool-aid, either.
You say there zero chance of hitting a vein in the deltoid muscle. Are you implying there are none in this muscle? How the fukk is this muscle kept alive?
The vascular system is everywhere in the body. The veils/arteries may not be terribly large in this area, but they are there and they can be hit.
Needle aspiration used to be a regular thing with medical people. But they wanted to dumb it down, so complete idiots could do it. So, someone ran the numbers and decided aspiration was not needed because, there was hardly any chance you'd hit one.
Hardly any chance isn't none. Aspiration is simple and it avoids dumping this stuff into a vein. Denmark and I believe Germany are now instructing jabbers to use the practice.
The problem with our health nazis doing the same is that if they said, OK, everyone, start aspirating, it is an admission that they've been doing it wrong. It is also an admission that an improperly administered jabbed could fukk you up. And they aren't about to do that.....yet.
They will, once the truth comes out as it usually does in the end.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:21 am
by smackaholic
smackaholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:19 am
Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:35 pm
smackaholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:02 pm
But a healthy 26 year old such as Kyle Warner (3 time national mountain bike champ) shouldn't have. Sadly for him, the jabber hit a vein/artery and his health is ruined. There are numerous documented cases of young extremely healthy people out there with no danger of serious harm, that were seriously harmed....by the vax.
WTF? Did they vaccinate him in the side of his neck or something? You don't hit a vein or an artery with shoulder jab. If they did it's the fault of whoever stuck him, not the vaccine.
Did you watch his interview with Dr John Campbell?
Dr Campbell is a retired English Doc who does a daily podcast. He is in no way anti-vax, but he hasn't drank the everyne get a jab kool-aid, either.
You say there zero chance of hitting a vein in the deltoid muscle. Are you implying there are none in this muscle? How the fukk is this muscle kept alive?
The vascular system is everywhere in the body. The veils/arteries may not be terribly large in this area, but they are there and they can be hit.
Needle aspiration used to be a regular thing with medical people. But they wanted to dumb it down, so complete idiots could do it. So, someone ran the numbers and decided aspiration was not needed because, there was hardly any chance you'd hit one.
Hardly any chance isn't none. Aspiration is simple and it avoids dumping this stuff into a vein. Denmark and I believe Germany are now instructing jabbers to use the practice.
The problem with our public health overlords doing the same is that if they said, OK, everyone, start aspirating, it is an admission that they've been doing it wrong. It is also an admission that an improperly administered jabbed could fukk you up. And they aren't about to do that.....yet.
They will, once the truth comes out as it usually does in the end.
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:01 pm
by Kierland
Is there nothing you won’t whine about?
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:47 pm
by Mikey
smackaholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:19 am
Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:35 pm
smackaholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:02 pm
But a healthy 26 year old such as Kyle Warner (3 time national mountain bike champ) shouldn't have. Sadly for him, the jabber hit a vein/artery and his health is ruined. There are numerous documented cases of young extremely healthy people out there with no danger of serious harm, that were seriously harmed....by the vax.
WTF? Did they vaccinate him in the side of his neck or something? You don't hit a vein or an artery with shoulder jab. If they did it's the fault of whoever stuck him, not the vaccine.
Did you watch his interview with Dr John Campbell?
Dr Campbell is a retired English Doc who does a daily podcast. He is in no way anti-vax, but he hasn't drank the everyne get a jab kool-aid, either.
You say there zero chance of hitting a vein in the deltoid muscle. Are you implying there are none in this muscle? How the fukk is this muscle kept alive?
The vascular system is everywhere in the body. The veils/arteries may not be terribly large in this area, but they are there and they can be hit.
Needle aspiration used to be a regular thing with medical people. But they wanted to dumb it down, so complete idiots could do it. So, someone ran the numbers and decided aspiration was not needed because, there was hardly any chance you'd hit one.
Hardly any chance isn't none. Aspiration is simple and it avoids dumping this stuff into a vein. Denmark and I believe Germany are now instructing jabbers to use the practice.
The problem with our health spam doing the same is that if they said, OK, everyone, start aspirating, it is an admission that they've been doing it wrong. It is also an admission that an improperly administered jabbed could fukk you up. And they aren't about to do that.....yet.
They will, once the truth comes out as it usually does in the end.
Did you bother to actually read my post? You know, like the last (third) sentence, or does your attention span end after two?
Re: Tell Us How You Really Feel..
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:59 am
by LTS TRN 2
Papa Willie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:57 am
Gotta admit - it’s seriously odd that the left is taking up for big pharma in this instance.
Isn't that mind blowing? And Big Pharma is joined at the hip with Monsanto and so forth. It is surely the most bizarre and--apparently--oblivious act of mass hypocrisy by the Woke mob since..a year ago? :doh: