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Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:01 pm
by Diego in Seattle
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:37 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:33 am It should be pointed out that mere possession of Top Secret/SCI documents is a very serious felony per sections 793 & 794 of the Espionage Act. While ex-presidents can be given security clearances by their successors, Biden revoked Trumps security clearances early last year.

If it is found that he sold the documents to a foreign government he could face the death penalty.
But as POTUS, Orange Man had the authority to declassify documents--and as his attorneys have tried to make clear,
Nope, he can't. Top Secret/SCI info/documents can't be declassified by even a sitting POTUS. And it's for situations just like this that the Espionage Act was written.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:55 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:01 pm
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:37 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:33 am It should be pointed out that mere possession of Top Secret/SCI documents is a very serious felony per sections 793 & 794 of the Espionage Act. While ex-presidents can be given security clearances by their successors, Biden revoked Trumps security clearances early last year.

If it is found that he sold the documents to a foreign government he could face the death penalty.
But as POTUS, Orange Man had the authority to declassify documents--and as his attorneys have tried to make clear,
Nope, he can't. Top Secret/SCI info/documents can't be declassified by even a sitting POTUS. And it's for situations just like this that the Espionage Act was written.
Bullshit. POTUS has the authority to designate--or undesignate--what's top secret in the first place. The whole notion of "nuclear secrets" is obviously just a cheap attempt to whip up hysteria among the already panicking DNC morons. And the fact of the DOJ waiting three days after issuing the warrant before conducting the raid shows that there was of course no actual threat at all. Moreover, Orange Man's legal team had been cooperative with the DOJ right along--until they were blindsided by this cartoonish bullshit. And it's going to blow back in their faces. Have you ever seen a more dysfunctional administration than this freak show of Gibberin' Joe, Kamaltoe, and the host of Queer commies and twisted freaks? Let's be real--the Cheney/Chimp administration was as purely criminal and evil as can be, but this shitshow is far more incompetent and destructive to the nation.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:30 pm
by Kierland
I love how this board used to have tons of people pimping Dump and now we are down to one unhinged wacko who is barely worth replying to.

I know I’ve typed that out before but it just feels like the end of an era. Trippy that it’s been 25+ years.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:34 am
by LTS TRN 2
But Squirmy, I'm not pimping him at all. I've gone to some lengths to explain exactly what is the basis of Orange Man's corruption. And as for his character, I'm way beyond you yokels as far as impugning his rampant childish narcissism. And too I'm up front about wanting him OUT of the 2024 election.

As usual, you're just reflexively squirting pissy insults and parroting NPR bullet points. Or is it the Daily Beast?

But what's at stake in this latest fiasco is the weaponizing of the FBI and DOJ as a political tool to an unprecedented degree. And it doesn't matter if the Woke mob thinks it's okay because it's in a good cause.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:46 am
by Diego in Seattle
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:55 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:01 pm
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:37 pm

But as POTUS, Orange Man had the authority to declassify documents--and as his attorneys have tried to make clear,
Nope, he can't. Top Secret/SCI info/documents can't be declassified by even a sitting POTUS. And it's for situations just like this that the Espionage Act was written.
Bullshit. POTUS has the authority to designate--or undesignate--what's top secret in the first place. The whole notion of "nuclear secrets" is obviously just a cheap attempt to whip up hysteria among the already panicking DNC morons. And the fact of the DOJ waiting three days after issuing the warrant before conducting the raid shows that there was of course no actual threat at all. Moreover, Orange Man's legal team had been cooperative with the DOJ right along--until they were blindsided by this cartoonish bullshit. And it's going to blow back in their faces. Have you ever seen a more dysfunctional administration than this freak show of Gibberin' Joe, Kamaltoe, and the host of Queer commies and twisted freaks? Let's be real--the Cheney/Chimp administration was as purely criminal and evil as can be, but this shitshow is far more incompetent and destructive to the nation.
While a POTUS doesn't have the ability to declassify TS/SCI docs, even those that he does have the authority to declassify they must follow a process. And if this had been done by POTUS the DOJ never would have been able to get a judge to sign off on a search warrant.

Logic isn't your strong point, is it?

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:13 am
by LTS TRN 2
Obviously there's a clear legal dispute here and each side will declare the other to be wrong. But the real issue is the absurd level of overkill in what is an obvious political stunt shamelessly using the FBI and DOJ as political weapons. And I don't care what your politics are--you never say or offer any sort of actual opinions on actual subjects--but you should be outraged that such a blatant abuse should be allowed at all. And of course the Biden slime patrol is immediately saying it will take months to pore over the 20 boxes of documents. It's a sick joke.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:23 am
by Softball Bat
MS wrote:I love how this board used to have tons of people pimping Dump
They've all been run.



:)

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:30 am
by LTS TRN 2
Fuck off, Roach, you sour little twerp. I think you need a limerick--perhaps in honor of Michael Brown who had the gall to desecrate August 9th.

There once was a thug named Brown
Who bum-rushed a cop with a frown;
Six bullets later he met his creator,
And his homies then burnt down the town.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:33 am
by Kierland
Kierland wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:30 pm one unhinged wacko who is barely worth replying to.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:51 pm
by Kierland
The spin on this has been amazing. From planted to all you had to do was ask to declassified to everyone does it to burn the place down in 48hrs. Or was it 24?

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:10 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Kierland wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:51 pm The spin on this has been amazing. From planted to all you had to do was ask to declassified to everyone does it to burn the place down in 48hrs. Or was it 24?
Literally just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it will stick.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:24 am
by Kierland
Now it’s give me back that planted evidence that I have never seen in my life.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:53 am
by Screw_Michigan
Kierland wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:24 am Now it’s give me back that planted evidence that I have never seen in my life.
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Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:32 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Kierland wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:24 am Now it’s give me back that planted evidence that I have never seen in my life.
Try to keep up...

Now it's "They planted evidence that I had already declassified." :lol:

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:30 pm
by Softball Bat
Roach wrote:The thing is, the sociopathic cocksucker is very capable and likely to have sold any and all top secret shit to anyone that will help his personal ass.
Yes.
The presidency was always just a transaction for him.

Rump's base is loaded with blue collar grunt types.
It has always been hilarious to me that these dumb twats think mr. piggy actually cares about their plight.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:16 pm
by LTS TRN 2
As easy as it is to compile clips of Orange Man sounding whacky and unhinged, let's take a look at one where he's actually speaking quite clearly and directly--and doing so addressing a subject no other president has dared to broach since JFK. And just consider the present galling fact of Biden sending $8 billion--and counting--to the kleptocracy that is Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpwkdmwui3k

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:30 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Roach, your attention deficit is getting the better of you. Orange Man starts talking about half way through and continues to the end. Now try setting everything else aside. Pretend it's some other U.S. official--or president--saying the exact same thing. Can you honestly disagree? :?:

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:15 am
by LTS TRN 2
No, the gas pipeline to which he refers is secondary to his main point of the wealthy Euro nations paying a much smaller share than they owe to NATO. The fact of Russia supplying gas is only practical since they should be allies. The ongoing Cold War rhetoric and hysteria is totally fake and has been for decades. The idea that Russia would invade the Balkans or Sweden is absurd, while Ukraine is the Nigeria of Europe as far as corruption--and like Crimea, the eastern Ukraine region is largely Russian.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:00 am
by Kierland
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:16 pm As easy as it is to compile clips of Orange Man sounding whacky and unhinged, let's take a look at one where he's actually speaking quite clearly and directly--and doing so addressing a subject no other president has dared to broach since JFK. And just consider the present galling fact of Biden sending $8 billion--and counting--to the kleptocracy that is Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpwkdmwui3k
Way to suck commie cock, pinko.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:56 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Squirmy, the commies are here! The BLM narrative? Pure commie. The whole Biden agenda of "Equity"? Absolute commie bullshit. The basic MO of academia? Commie as can be. To say you're clueless misses the point. You're a total fake little punk.

As for Russia, they're selling natural gas in the manner of Capitalism. Sure, Putin had to root out the hooknosed parasite "oligarchs," and that was a bit messy. But there's nothing whatever "commie" about Russia today, and the reflexive Cold War rhetoric--by neocon scum--is just more manipulative bullshit.

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:32 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Which party was it that spent the Fourth of July in 2018 in Russia?

Re: FBI raids Mar-a-Lago

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:57 pm
by LTS TRN 2
You're referring to the GOP senators who were apparently warning the Russians not meddle in the elections? What's that got to do with commies? Obviously it was a calculated effort to address the baseless accusations by the DNC as to Russian meddling in 2016. What has that got to do with the entire Woke agenda--which the DNC completely embraces--being actual Marxist doctrine right down the line? What's that got to do with "Admiral" Levine being Undersecretary of Health and openly pushing for legislation and federal authority to promote "trans" policies and agenda?

Do you have an actual opinion on the "trans" lunacy and the Woke anti-white agenda of the commie DNC? You seem unclear.