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kcdave wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:01 am
#HARRIS/WALZ/2024

Outlaw BBQ grills, all varieties. Mandatory jail time and lost fingers for repeat offenders.

Tampon Tim is the best that the Cackles the Cocksucker can come up with?



Good luck with that. He's a total fuck up.

mvscal wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:31 pm He's a total fuck up.

Says the supporter of the furniture fucker.

What was the name of that Scorsese documentary about The Band?

Oh yeah, "The Last Walz"

He did such a good job with the rioting in Minneapolis.

Trump will even take MN this time. That will be sweet.

Dump is melting. Love it!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -campaign/

Trump complains about campaign as advisers try to focus on attacking Harris

The GOP nominee has grown increasingly upset about Kamala Harris’s surging poll numbers and media coverage since replacing Joe Biden on the ticket.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:03 am www.washingtonpost.com/politics

Question for veterans of the board: is Vance correct in accusing his counterpart of stolen valor?

thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

Sure looks like it. He spouts his service and apparently he dodged deployment. He comes off to me as a bull shitter.
Nice pick Dems. HaHa.

What these progressive idiots don't realize is we have this thing called the internet, where things can be verified.

Walz is a complete fuck up. He's being "swift boated" as I type this.

He also had a wreckless DUI, and he tried to lie his way out of it by saying he was deaf.

Yeah, thanks. I had the idea that stolen valor meant claiming service but never even wore the uniform; but then SG mentions swift boating. Comes back around to asking the opinion of vets, since the vague facts I could find point to the scenario being a matter of interpretation.

The guy spent 20+ years in the military and is getting grief for it?

Holy shit, talk about having absolutely nothing and grasping at straws

For those who may want to read the actual particulars of his military service, read this article. Note that it is from 2018, before any talk of being on a national ticket. Now go ahead and check out the record of Capt. Bone Spurs while you're at it.

She's going to win. And the felon is going to get convicted, again and again. Maybe at some point y'all will wake up and wonder wtf you were thinking when you supported a felon, con man, and vulgarian. Or maybe not, whatever, that is a you problem, good luck with it.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:13 pm The guy spent 20+ years in the military and is getting grief for it?

Holy shit, talk about having absolutely nothing and grasping at straws

For those who may want to read the actual particulars of his military service, read this article. Note that it is from 2018, before any talk of being on a national ticket. Now go ahead and check out the record of Capt. Bone Spurs while you're at it.

She's going to win. And the felon is going to get convicted, again and again. Maybe at some point y'all will wake up and wonder wtf you were thinking when you supported a felon, con man, and vulgarian. Or maybe not, whatever, that is a you problem, good luck with it.

Thanks for the dead link. Not a surprise. Probably a questionable source anyway.

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The requested URL was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."

And yes, he's getting grief. The military has a code, and they call bullshit when ex-military use their "service" as a way to get credibility.

Thank you for letting me know, link is corrected now.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:34 pm Thank you for letting me know, link is corrected now.

Oh my bad. It's MPR news.

Minnesota Public Radio - they make NPR look like the National Review.

The height of his military career was battling the weather.

If you have anything of substance to add, please do so.

Merely saying that you don't like the source does nothing to help you. If the article got something wrong, specify it, and then provide a source with accurate information.

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:27 pm
And yes, he's getting grief. The military has a code, and they call bullshit when ex-military use their "service" as a way to get credibility.

Says the moron whose hero is a silver spoon billionaire who got multiple deferments because of “allegedly” flat feet. And what would you know about any military “codes” anyway. Where did you serve?

bungle clone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:43 pm I had the idea that stolen valor meant claiming service but never even wore the uniform; but then SG mentions swift boating. Comes back around to asking the opinion of vets, since the vague facts I could find point to the scenario being a matter of interpretation.

That is one form of "stolen valor" and, arguably, the least common form.

It is more common to find vets embellishing their career. For instance, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn) claimed, for many years, to have been a "Vietnam veteran." Fact of the matter is that he never set foot in Vietnam and was merely in the armed forces in some capacity half a world away during the Vietnam War. Which story is more impressive to a voter who doesn't know any better? "Stolen valor" is a form of fraud.

Has Walz committed it? Absolutely, yes. Now this is specific to the US Army. I don't know how other branches are ordered. He claims or has claimed to be a "retired Command Sergeant Major." There are a couple problems with that claim. The first is that CSM is not a rank. It's a leadership position. Specifically, the CSM is the senior enlisted man in a battalion sized unit and the right hand of the battalion commander. Once that ticket is punched, they continue as a sergeant major in various staff positions at higher headquarters. The second problem with his claim is that he was in an acting role only. He did not complete the required course work to be permanently confirmed in that rank which is why he reverted to master sergeant on retirement.

In the Army, sergeants major hold a particular place of respect. They are held in near universal respect and esteem by both lower enlisted and officers. I guess that the other branches are similar. Basically, these are the dudes whose wallet says "Bad Motherfucker." All Walz had to do was complete his coursework and serve the remaining two years on his enlistment and he would join that elite company both in actual cash retirement bennies and social prestige. That seems like a slam dunk especially considering he was National Guard not Regular Army. So why didn't he? Oh, yes. That's right. His unit was going to be activated for service in Iraq. He bailed out on his unit when they needed him the most. He wasn't a clerk. He wasn't handing out blankets. He was a key leader in the unit. The argument that the orders didn't come through until after he submitted his paperwork doesn't fly either. First, he would have known long before the official order came down. NG units take a long time to spin up for active duty, so a warning order would have been sent months prior. The second reason, is that he could have pulled his paperwork and just showed up.

The stolen valor piece of him claiming an acting role rather than an actual official rank is sus, but not quite the end of the world. The more concerning aspect is him being a chicken dick twat and bailing on his unit when he was a key leader. I couldn't have done that even though I would have been dragged kicking and screaming in my own headspace. He was a cunt then and he's a cunt now.

Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:01 pm

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:27 pm
And yes, he's getting grief. The military has a code, and they call bullshit when ex-military use their "service" as a way to get credibility.

Says the moron whose hero is a silver spoon billionaire who got multiple deferments because of “allegedly” flat feet. And what would you know about any military “codes” anyway. Where did you serve?

Oh! What a fun game! I LOVE Whatabout! OK, my turn.

Whatabout Pedo Joe who continually says he was an elite athlete in multiple sports yet claimed to have asthma (allegedly) to avoid military service?

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pm The stolen valor piece of him claiming an acting role rather than an actual official rank is sus, but not quite the end of the world.

Oh well, better luck next time.

Your next right wing talking point will be along soon, maybe it might be better.

Meanwhile, why is the orange felon hiding? He signed up for this, is he having second thoughts about running? If he wants to drop out, that's ok, no objection here.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:45 pm If you have anything of substance to add, please do so.

Merely saying that you don't like the source does nothing to help you. If the article got something wrong, specify it, and then provide a source with accurate information.

The article didn't get anything wrong, it just didn't SAY anything.

Typical of your party. No substance, only feelz.

Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:01 pm

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:27 pm
And yes, he's getting grief. The military has a code, and they call bullshit when ex-military use their "service" as a way to get credibility.

Says the moron whose hero is a silver spoon billionaire who got multiple deferments because of “allegedly” flat feet. And what would you know about any military “codes” anyway. Where did you serve?

I didn't serve, but I have a right to call bullshit when I hear it or read it.

My BIL was a career Marine who did multiple combat tours in Iraq. He saw some serious shit.

He echoed the words that I expressed.

So there's that...

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:43 pm

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pm The stolen valor piece of him claiming an acting role rather than an actual official rank is sus, but not quite the end of the world.

Oh well, better luck next time.

Your next right wing talking point will be along soon, maybe it might be better.

Meanwhile, why is the orange felon hiding? He signed up for this, is he having second thoughts about running? If he wants to drop out, that's ok, no objection here.

Hiding?? Boy are you ensconced in your echo chamber.

Trump has no intention of leaving the race.

Your pathetically biased media would love it if he quit.

Ain't happening. He's got a lot of shit to clean up after Biden leaves. Both literally and figuratively.

Walz wasn't an E9, dumbfuck. He lied. Your graphic is also lying about Vance's awards. There are a few atta boys missing.

Thank you mvscal. According to what I can infer from what you wrote and some searching, Gov. Walz may have earned this medal:

bungle clone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:33 pm Thank you mvscal. According to what I can infer from what you wrote and some searching, Gov. Walz may have earned this medal:

Is that for stoking a pharmacy fire?

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pmThe stolen valor piece of him claiming an acting role rather than an actual official rank is sus, but not quite the end of the world. The more concerning aspect is him being a chicken dick twat and bailing on his unit when he was a key leader. I couldn't have done that even though I would have been dragged kicking and screaming in my own headspace. He was a cunt then and he's a cunt now.

Anyone that served one day less than Walz can such every inch
of his white cock. Dude served 24 years finishing as an E8 or E9,
whatever the hell, that part needs to be cleaned up and explained.
From what I have read, he served in the role of CSM, but
was never actually completed the course work or was officially
promoted. The Army's way of fucking a guy. Do the work, but do
not receive the compensation.
But the rest, fuck off. He put up with the Army's bullshit for 24 years.
4 years passed the retirement qualifier. He was 41, married, had a
young daughter at home, good honest Mon-Fri career, and folks in
his ear telling him to run for office. Only a fool would have stuck
around the Guard to deploy overseas. He put in his time, and then
some. I served 4 years, and couldn't wait to get the hell out.
mvs, you talk a lot of shit for someone who got the hell out as well.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:43 pm Meanwhile, why is the orange felon hiding? He signed up for this, is he having second thoughts about running?

'They Got You In Here Too, Huh?' Says Biden As Dems Lock Kamala In Basement

WASHINGTON, D.C. — With the presidential race entering its final few months, top Democratic officials decided to return to their tried and true game plan of hiding their candidate in the basement to avoid having any voters see them or hear them until after election day.

"They got you in here too, huh?" Biden was overheard saying to Harris. "They told me I should just stay in here. That was four years… four hundred billion… million billion… four… a long time ago. They said I could watch as many cartoons as I want down here and then when I came out of the basement, I would be president. Now I'm not going to be president anymore, but they told me to stay down here anyway. They've got somebody else now. A black gal… or Indian… or… anyway."

A source deep within the White House confirmed that Harris had been sent to the basement. "It's the only way we can really maintain control," the source said. "You've seen her do interviews, right? When she goes off-script, bad things happen. Just like Joe. So, with that in mind, we decided the best thing to do is just do what we did with him — lock her in the basement, keep her hidden, and let the media and celebrities do all the campaigning for her. Super brat, right? Did I use that word right?"

At publishing time, White House staff had been instructed to make sure the basement remained fully stocked with wine to keep the vice president comfortable.

Good.
Keep her in the basement.

Listening to her for longer than 20 seconds is nauseating.

Gee, I wonder why mvskkkal won't mention what the Army's rules are for filing for retirement are, along with when Walz's unit received their deployment orders....

Anyone who unfairly attacks a fellow soldier is the real blue falcon.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:28 pm

Walz is slinging so many lies it's hard to keep up, so your ignorance can be somewhat forgiven.

kcdave wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:07 am

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pmThe stolen valor piece of him claiming an acting role rather than an actual official rank is sus, but not quite the end of the world. The more concerning aspect is him being a chicken dick twat and bailing on his unit when he was a key leader. I couldn't have done that even though I would have been dragged kicking and screaming in my own headspace. He was a cunt then and he's a cunt now.

Anyone that served one day less than Walz can such every inch
of his white cock. Dude served 24 years finishing as an E8 or E9,
whatever the hell, that part needs to be cleaned up and explained.
From what I have read, he served in the role of CSM, but
was never actually completed the course work or was officially
promoted. The Army's way of fucking a guy. Do the work, but do
not receive the compensation.
But the rest, fuck off. He put up with the Army's bullshit for 24 years.
4 years passed the retirement qualifier. He was 41, married, had a
young daughter at home, good honest Mon-Fri career, and folks in
his ear telling him to run for office. Only a fool would have stuck
around the Guard to deploy overseas. He put in his time, and then
some. I served 4 years, and couldn't wait to get the hell out.
mvs, you talk a lot of shit for someone who got the hell out as well.

I never served a day, but I have every right to call bullshit on lying.

Just like Kerry and Dick Blumenthal.

I totally respect those that did serve, but like any other profession, I'll call bullshit when someone flat out lies for purposes of political gain.

Cackles would've been better served to choose Mark Kelly. Selfishly, I'm glad she didn't.

She "Walz"'ed into a horrible choice.

It's particularly nauseating when progressives use the military when it's convenient for their narrative. The camo campaign hats for example.

Progressive Hollywood and the publishing industry loved Vance's story, when it suited their narrative, until it didn't.

Exploitation for political gain is in the DNA.

Shameful...

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:41 pm It's particularly nauseating when progressives use the military when it's convenient for their narrative. The camo campaign hats for example.

Progressive Hollywood and the publishing industry loved Vance's story, when it suited their narrative, until it didn't.

Exploitation for political gain is in the DNA.

Shameful...

Says a member of the flag waving insurrectionist cult.

Mikey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:42 pm
Says a member of the flag waving insurrectionist cult.

^^^This exactly!!!

Speaking of flags, my fellow midwestern leftists (like Screwy) and I absolutely love the new Minnesota state flag and the hidden homage it pays to our most loyal of citizens, including Illhand Omar. Whatever it takes to appease these wonderful patriots, I am willing to sacrifice my privilege so that they can have more.

L45B wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:10 pm

Mikey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:42 pm
Says a member of the flag waving insurrectionist cult.

^^^This exactly!!!

Speaking of flags, my fellow midwestern leftists (like Screwy) and I absolutely love the new Minnesota state flag and the hidden homage it pays to our most loyal of citizens, including Illhand Omar. Whatever it takes to appease these wonderful patriots, I am willing to sacrifice my privilege so that they can have more.

You, sir, are the hardest working mofo in here. By far. Kudos.

Mikey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:42 pm

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:41 pm It's particularly nauseating when progressives use the military when it's convenient for their narrative. The camo campaign hats for example.

Progressive Hollywood and the publishing industry loved Vance's story, when it suited their narrative, until it didn't.

Exploitation for political gain is in the DNA.

Shameful...

Says a member of the flag waving insurrectionist cult.

There was no insurrection, and there is no cult.

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:11 pm There was no insurrection, and there is no cult.

Also, the earth is flat.

kcdave wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:07 amDude served 24 years finishing as an E8 or E9,whatever the hell, that part needs to be cleaned up and explained.

It's easily explained. He lied. Period. You know damn well there is a huge difference between E8 and E9 in respect and prestige. It's also not the only thing that "needs to be cleaned up and explained." Nor was he "fucked over" by the Army. He could have easily earned that promotion.

CNN fact-checks Tim Walz about ‘absolutely false’ claim he carried weapons 'in war'
CNN correspondent called out Walz, saying he 'has used language that suggested that he carried weapons in a fighting situation'

Walz was seen in a video shared by the Harris campaign on Wednesday where he declared at a campaign event, "We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at."

video at link.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-fact- ... eapons-war

Ooops. Another lie. Just a question for a fellow vet, have you ever known anyone who lied about their service who wasn't a complete shitbag? It really isn't that hard to not lie about your service. Take Vance for example. Dude did a hitch in the Marines out of high school. He did the job they gave him, went where they sent him and said he was fortunate enough not to have been involved in any serious combat. How hard is that?

As to my own service, nothing was happening in 1995 not to mention that the unit wasn't depending on me. Oddly enough, though, I was an "acting jack" as well. When my dickheaded 1SG ripped me out of HQ platoon and sent me back to a line platoon as a Stinger team chief, I was forced to trade my beloved sham shield for corporal's stripes, but I was not officially a corporal (the shittiest rank in the Army). I do not claim to be corporal. I was a specialist and proud member of the E4 Mafia.

Every once in awhile I do think of what would have happened if I had been a lifer. I would have been in nearly 11 years by 9/11. I would have been, at least, an E6 if not E7. My 20 would have been 2011 with a front row seat for the entire shitshow in Iraq from 1991 to 2011. Fuck that. If you give the Army enough chances, they will eventually manage to get you killed. Of course, I was active duty not some pud pulling weekend warrior like Walz who bailed the first time his unit was ever faced with the prospect of doing any actual soldiering. And his unit did. 22 months in Iraq through the surge, but dickface was busy lying about his rank and pretending he had a part in it. Total cunt.

bungle clone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:33 pm Thank you mvscal. According to what I can infer from what you wrote and some searching, Gov. Walz may have earned this medal:

A buddy fucker for sure.