Birthright Citizenship

[Innocent Bystander]

Gonna be lots of castor oil and long walks on February 18.

I don't understand.

[Innocent Bystander]

As an example, let's consider a hypothetical Vladimir, born in the United States to parents affiliated with Russia, and who entered our country legally as foreign ambassadors. Bad, bad people. Let's assume Vladimir is now 24 years old, has joined a Russia-affiliated Mafia, and is living a life of crime.

Until one day he gets busted, and Vladimir is now facing many felony charges.

Vladimir's defense attorney moves to dismiss those charges, saying that the court lacks jurisdiction over him. Do you think that the court will find that Vladimir is subject to the court's jurisdiction?

Do you think Vladimir is an American citizen?

If Vlad's Ashkenazi, he has no loyalty to anyone except other Ashkenazi. Russian, American, they're both irrelevant.

If Vlad's Orthodox or anything else, and was born while his parents were Ambassadors, he is a citizen of whatever country his parents represent. He is not American. Just like John McCain was American, not Panamanian. He was born in Panama, but his parents were American citizens.

Vlad's attorney is correct. Or, he would be if birthright citizenship were not abused. Making that argument opens up a can of worms for the rest of his family, though. Since he's Ashkenazi mafia, it doesn't matter. The judge has been bribed on one hand, and mortally threatened on the other, to give the verdict Vlad's people want. The judge needs protection. Will the judge receive it?

[The Seer]

I read the Constitution as a living document.

Living, flexible for interpretation, and to be ignored....

Separation of Powers

* Pushing Back on Biden’s COVID-19 Mandates
* Stopping Biden’s SAVE Scheme

The First Amendment

* Protecting Religious Student Organizations’ Rights
* Defending Faith-Based Contractors

The 14th Amendment

* Protecting Women’s Sports
* Fighting Race-Based Admissions

https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/docu ... tID=409571
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-techn ... defends-it
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/inte ... -and-void/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden- ... 025-01-17/

Pre-Pardons will have their day in court also.

[mvscal]

Gonna be lots of castor oil and long walks on February 18.

I don't understand.

Pin that to the list.

[mvscal]

Pre-Pardons will have their day in court also.

Perhaps. I wouldn't expect that to go anywhere, though. Pardons have long been understood to be a plenary power of the executive. I would support an amendment to clarify that power to specifically articulated offenses. I don't think that would be a big ask, but I do think it would require a constitutional amendment. It might even have a chance of passing. I don't see it as a partisan issue.

[Innocent Bystander]

Gonna be lots of castor oil and long walks on February 18.

I don't understand.

Pin that to the list.

You've gone soft.

[Innocent Bystander]

It’s kind of ironic that the folks here arguing about the “intent” of the 14th amendment, for the most part, would completely ignore the “intent” of the second amendment when at the time of its ratification the meaning of “firearm” was vastly different than it is today, and did not include semiautomatic rifles with large clips and bump stocks, or even semiautomatic handguns. They also completely discount the first 13 words.

It’s also pretty amazing that some folks here aren’t calling for changes to this Amendment given that children of criminal aliens are granted citizenship.

But please keep making this argument loud and often. It will help keep the GOP in office for a long time.

I'm not sure what crime has to do with it unless you're making a meta statement about the criminality of being on US soil without a Visa, naturalization certificate, or bloodline. If Vlad's parents were saints who overstayed their visa, they're criminals who weren't charged for the crime of overstaying their visa.

The GOP aren't in office. AIPAC is (except for Massie).

The Second Amendment doesn't need to be changed. It needs to be respected.

The Fourteenth Amendment isn't being respected, because the subjects of it aren't respected.

[Innocent Bystander]

It says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Two parts: (1) born or naturalized, and (2) subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Born is pretty straightforward, so let's consider subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

As an example, let's consider a hypothetical José, born in the United States to parents affiliated with MS-13, and who entered our country completely illegally. Bad bad people. Let's assume José is now 24 years old, has joined MS-13, and is living a life of crime.

Until one day he gets busted, and José is now facing many felony charges.

José's defense attorney moves to dismiss those charges, saying that the court lacks jurisdiction over him. Do you think that the court will find that José is subject to the court's jurisdiction?

Do you think José is an American citizen?

. I have yet to hear an even remotely compelling argument as to why the children of people who aren't supposed to be here should automatically become citizens.

Because of the plain language of the Constitution (not what some people said about it) provides for them to be citizens.

The plain language of the Amendment has nothing to do with Jose, because his ancestors were not held as chattel on US soil and were not legally classified as property instead of persons before Abraham put his foot up the bankers' asses and emancipated everyone.

Jose's parents are Salvadorans, who came here following the Iran-Contra destruction of Central America funded by the intentional destruction of the FBA family and FBA communities. MS-13 exists because the United States government paid for it to exist.

Different crime against humanity.

MS-13 being allowed to flourish in the US was the human equivalent of releasing ... well, any of the species listed at this website https://eandt.theiet.org/2018/05/24/top ... goes-wrong

[88BuckeyeGrad]

If I wasn't so dehydrated from bourbon abuse, I'd try to weep for you. Srsly.

[Innocent Bystander]

You can weep, but you won't support reparations?

As Trump proved these past two weeks, self-deportation can work.


https://x.com/JaymalGreen/status/1883719736732623231

Chicago politicians need to STOP their shenanigans. I just watched Tom Homan arrest to deport an illegal immigrant who has been convicted of sexual crimes involving CHILDREN.

Border Czar Tom Homan has said CLEARLY, “I am not going into schools to snatch children.” Yet, CPS created a LIE that hit the news last week when it was secret service who actually came to the school.

The only reason that ICE agents are in the neighborhoods is to arrest SAFETY THREATS. That means that they have been convicted of a high level crime. The problem is that because we are a sanctuary city and state, they won’t allow ICE to come inside the jails. Therefore, they have to wait until they go home to arrest them.

Collateral damage: If the safety threat is NEAR other illegal immigrants, then they will be deported too. The best way to avoid deportation is avoid those who have high level records. Tom Homan is deploying HUNDREDS of ICE agents to Chicago this week, be on the lookout for what’s coming!

[Diego in Seattle]

And how do brown-skinned Americans avoid being deported (without a hearing)?

Yeah, we know....

[Sudden Sam]

If it was up to Dems, there would be no ID required for anything

[Diego in Seattle]

If it was up to Dems, there would be no ID required for anything

You, about now...

[88BuckeyeGrad]

You can weep, but you won't support reparations?

Explain to me how it would work, who gets it, and why it would be fair. I'm an open-minded dude.

[Innocent Bystander]

If it was up to Dems, there would be no ID required for anything

Speaking of ...






Folks are pissed off at Sharpton for his latest extortion stunt, which this time is anti-Target/pro-Costco. DEI means different things to different people, but some folks are sick of being mules in the middle. Sharpton's days are numbered.

[Innocent Bystander]

You can weep, but you won't support reparations?

Explain to me how it would work, who gets it, and why it would be fair. I'm an open-minded dude.

Are you?

Why wouldn't it work, who wouldn't get it, and why wouldn't it be fair?

[Roux]

IB, those who advocate are the ones who bear the burden of proof.

You are saying there should be reparations. It is you who must offer a compelling reason to do so.

[Mikey]

I don't understand.

Pin that to the list.

You've gone soft.

It happens with age and an unhealthy diet.

[Mikey]

If it was up to Dems, there would be no ID required for anything

You, about now...

Hysterical old woman.

[Mikey]

If it was up to Dems, there would be no ID required for anything

Speaking of ...






Folks are pissed off at Sharpton for his latest extortion stunt, which this time is anti-Target/pro-Costco. DEI means different things to different people, but some folks are sick of being mules in the middle. Sharpton's days are numbered.

Whoever put that pitcher together is to stupid to speel two.

[Innocent Bystander]

Pin that to the list.

You've gone soft.

It happens with age and an unhealthy diet.

Red is the best chef in the forums (sorry, Roux). (Maybe you two n.igg.as had a cook-off to settle the question differently, though. I don't know. I wasn't here.)

Still, edibles will fuck you up that badly? Stay away from weed, y'all.

[Innocent Bystander]

IB, those who advocate are the ones who bear the burden of proof.

You are saying there should be reparations. It is you who must offer a compelling reason to do so.

Because jews are against it.

It's suspect.

[Innocent Bystander]

Example:

https://www.hoover.org/research/case-ag ... ns-slavery



Libertarian Epstein can die in the deepest fires of hell for waiving off the toll of slavery and Jim Crow by not only comparing it to the Six Million (tm), but using jew accounting to minimize the human lives affected. This is multitudes worse than the 'Oct 7 is equivalent to fifteen 9/11s' bullshit from 2023, not least because jews profited off slavery, profited off Jim Crow, profited off AA and are now profiting off the 'dismantling' of AA just so they can steal even more resources from the very people they are holding down.

[Innocent Bystander]

If it was up to Dems, there would be no ID required for anything

Speaking of ...






Folks are pissed off at Sharpton for his latest extortion stunt, which this time is anti-Target/pro-Costco. DEI means different things to different people, but some folks are sick of being mules in the middle. Sharpton's days are numbered.

Whoever put that pitcher together is to stupid to speel two.

I know. Someone else can remake the .gif. It was an online response to this

https://nypost.com/2025/01/25/us-news/r ... ommitment/




You can't enter Costco without a membership. You can't get a membership without ID. Al is an old school ne.gro minion. It's farcical to argue voter ID requirements are discriminatory against blacks because blacks have a hard time getting ID, only to roll into a warehouse which doesn't allow entry without a paid badge telling black people to follow your lead and give this white company your ID for the privilege of giving them your cash.

Voter ID laws misused the memory of poll taxes in order to twist voter enfranchisement into something it isn't, at the expense of black people but the profit of illegals and those who make money off illegals.

[Mikey]

You have to pay a membership fee to shop at Costco, hence you have to show your membership card. Good or bad, right or wrong, that's their business model. In California you can enter Costco without a membership if you're buying wine or booze. That's the law in California. You just can't buy anything else. They do treat their employees very well compared to all, or at least most, other retailers.

[The Seer]

Jooos bad, kneegrows good....yawn.

[L45B]

I was just at the East Harlem Costco on Friday, damn wish I knew Mr Sharpton was going to be there. I typically shop at the Costco across the East River in Queens (in the 14th district of NY) but they were out of Clif Bars and lobster ravioli.

[Dr_Phibes]

In California you can enter Costco without a membership if you're buying wine or booze. That's the law in California. You just can't buy anything else.

That sounds weird. I'm not criticising it, but why?

'Look, I really really need a drink'.

'Oh Ok.'

[Mikey]

In California you can enter Costco without a membership if you're buying wine or booze. That's the law in California. You just can't buy anything else.

That sounds weird. I'm not criticising it, but why?

'Look, I really really need a drink'.

'Oh Ok.'

I see what you mean. I don't think that they're trying to encourage more people to buy alcohol, but Costco is technically a membership-based club (everybody has to pay an annual fee) and in some states they can't restrict alcohol sales to just members. Supposedly they are, by far, the largest wine retailer in the US. Probably liquor too.

[Dr_Phibes]

That makes sense. I was thinking

'And I'll have five gallons of dill pickles to go with my booze'

'sorry, but no.'

[FiatLux]

they are, by far, the largest wine retailer in the US. Probably liquor too.

Alcoholic.

I still have my membership card but haven't renewed for a few years. I just can't stand those lines.

That, and I don't need 39 hard boiled eggs.

[Meat Head]

they are, by far, the largest wine retailer in the US. Probably liquor too.

Alcoholic.

I still have my membership card but haven't renewed for a few years. I just can't stand those lines.

That, and I don't need 39 hard boiled eggs.

Idiot.

[Mikey]

they are, by far, the largest wine retailer in the US. Probably liquor too.

Alcoholic.

I still have my membership card but haven't renewed for a few years. I just can't stand those lines.

That, and I don't need 39 hard boiled eggs.

I go to the Costco in Vista every Saturday morning after the farmers market on my weekly trip out of the hills. They officially open at 9:30 am but often open up 15 minutes early or so and I try to time my arrival with that. Usually park withing about 10 cars of the front door. Mostly I get meat and chicken (most of which I throw into the freezer), cheese, some produce and non-perishable stuff like canned goods and seasonings. If you look you can find deals on some stuff there that you will never find in a grocery store. Sundried tomatoes from Greece packed in EVOO, Castelvetrano olives (imported from Italy), Italian tuna packed in EVOO...

For months they were carrying large wedges of Point Reyes Original Blue cheese for something like $10.00/lb. I stocked up several months worth of that shit.

Yeah I'm into that kind of stuff. Anything with their Kirkland store brand label is usually very high quality.

I'm always out by about 9:45 and the parking lot is full.

[FiatLux]

For months they were carrying large wedges of Point Reyes Original Blue cheese for something like $10.00/lb. I stocked up several months worth of that shit.

Good stuff. I usually grab some on my way to Salmon Creek when I go to surfing there. Or grab some at Safeway.

Better start stocking up a little more.

https://www.kqed.org/news/12021426/poin ... g-conflict

[Meat Head]

You haven't renewed for a few years but you go there for cheese?

Stop pretending and just let your true idiot shine through.

Surfing...

[FiatLux]

If you like cheese. I think they let you order online.


https://pointreyescheese.com/

[mvscal]

You haven't renewed for a few years but you go there for cheese?

As long as it can scraped off the head of an uncircumcised penis, mstool will spread it on a cracker and happily munch it down while getting fucked up the ass. Don't ask. That cheese goes on a different cracker.

[Mikey]

If you like cheese. I think they let you order online.


https://pointreyescheese.com/

Original Blue is $45.00 for three 6 Oz wedges. That’s $40.00 per pound and why I was buying it at Costco. They must have had a glut to get rid of because it disappeared a couple of weeks ago.

[Roux]

Red is the best chef in the forums (sorry, Roux). (Maybe you two n.igg.as had a cook-off to settle the question differently, though. I don't know. I wasn't here.)

I'm not sure who Red is, but I'm quite ok with him or her being the best chef. I do fairly well with cajun and creole stuff, Louisiana soul food, but I don't claim to be some master chef, I simply like to cook. It is fun to me.

Props to Mikey and the Cooking Forum.

[Mikey]

If you like cheese. I think they let you order online.


https://pointreyescheese.com/

From Google Maps it looks like they’re east of Tomales Bay and Hwy 1, and outside the National Seashore area. So maybe not affected?