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Felix wrote: So other than the resident gas passing myopian, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Bronco fan that is predicting a Denver superbowl appearence this year.

Horsepiss. Guess pre-season Denver sports talk radio couldn't clear the Front Range, eh? Guess your trailer needs a bigger arial.

On the other hand, Chef fans screaming that this indeed is "the year" are plentiful. Mix that with a "willie roaf means 10 points" to the offense idiocy and KC fan has indeed set the table for another inevitable "WTF happened" chorus ringing down from Arrowrock.

Keep scratchin', cat-breath. Let me know if you really wanna debate Roaf's value, and I'll let you pick out the pattern on the plate that I serve your ass. And while it very well may be "the year" (guess we'll know in about 17 games or so) ChiefFan doesn't regard the Superbowl as a birthright, unlike many followers of the Blundering Herd.

You know what they say: Starve a cold, feed a failure

"Failure is not an option."

Truman wrote:With apologies to Jimmy Buffet...

Miami was no fluke
Why, just watch the Snake puke
Nothin’ here goin’ according to Hoyle
Half the team is from Cleveland
The rest under-chievin’
Even the Coors is beginnin’ to spoil

Chorus:
Wastin' away again in Elwayville
Searching for one last Superbowl shot
Some DonkFans claim that Shan-a-han’s not to blame
But we know it’s all the Mastermind’s fault

We don’t know the reason
He’s stayed all these seasons
Nothin’ to show since ol’ Horse-face retired
But leading his Ponies
He’s a fraud and a phony
It’s amazing he hasn’t been fired

Chorus:
Wastin' away again in Elwayville
Searching for one last Superbowl shot
Some DonkFans claim that Shan-a-han’s not to blame
But we know it’s all the Mastermind’s fault

Blown out at Invesco
And the fans all say “let’s go”
As Priest takes another one back to the house
And there’s boos in the South stands
For a poorly drawn game plan
And ol’ Ratty’s just tryin’ to hang on

Wastin' away again in Elwayville
Searching for one last Superbowl shot
DonkFan now claims that Shan-a-han is to blame
Yes we know it’s all the Mastermind’s fault

Great line, rack the hell out of Truman.
Funny stuff, bro. Bubba would approve.

Agreed, nice job Truman.

Maybe if the Griefs win a couple of more we'll see you again this season. :D

Welcome back Truman, nice tune.

The Chiefs are just better than the Broncos even without Welbourne, Warfield and Shawn Barber who will all be back in a couple of weeks. It doesn't matter if they are playing at a stadium where the scoreboard tells the fans what to say, the Chiefs will win. It's funny seeing all the Haytah Faider fans jumping on the Donks bandwagon though. Dtownmike is a realest.

KC 27
Den 21

Felix wrote: On the other hand, Chef fans screaming that this indeed is "the year" are plentiful.

So? What if it happens to be true? What u gonna' say then, Mr. Potato head?

Mix that with a "willie roaf means 10 points" to the offense idiocy..

Howz about you "mix in" some facts (or even some mis-informed opinions) to refute that "idiotic" statement then, rather than your usual mishmash of non-sequiters?

Willie Roaf plays in that game last week, they would've have scored at least 10 more points. There are good reasons why the Chiefs were the top scoring team in the NFL last year, and they start at left offensive tackle.

I guess I shouldn't really expect much football knowledge from a wishy washy spud like yourself. Damned if ICSF isn't right about one thing. You are one pathetic excuse for a fan. No wonder half the Donk fanbase wants you skinned.

Besides that, you root for a college football team that plays on a blue field.

Truman wrote: Keep scratchin', cat-breath. Let me know if you really wanna debate Roaf's value, and I'll let you pick out the pattern on the plate that I serve your ass.

Please tell me your not going to the "Roaf is worth 10 points" card Tru.....

Whitey Wagon may be overheating like a 67 Ford Fairlane with this nonsense, but you've always been a relatively reasonable Chef fan........

War Wagon wrote:
Besides that, you root for a college football team that plays on a blue field.

Nothing says "I'm a fucking idiot" quite like this post Whitey.......

This game is going to come down to this:

Can the Doinks slow the Chiefs ground game? - Maybe if Roaf doesn't play
Can the Chiefs stop the Doink ground game? - They've stopped Martin & Jordan so far
Can Plummer avoid stupid mistakes? - Probably not

It's gonna be a good one - I still Like the Chiefs to break the Mile High jinx: 27-24

Chiefs 31 Broncos 23

For the record, anyone picking the Chiefs to finish with less than 20 points is taking a pretty big risk, and anyone picking them under 10 (Rayduh "cock holster" James) is a complete moron. KC hasn't been under 10 points in a game since 2001.

KC 24
Den 16

Truman wrote: Keep scratchin', cat-breath. Let me know if you really wanna debate Roaf's value, and I'll let you pick out the pattern on the plate that I serve your ass.

Mrs. Potato Head wrote:Please tell me your not going to the "Roaf is worth 10 points" card Tru.....

Whitey Wagon may be overheating like a 67 Ford Fairlane with this nonsense, but you've always been a relatively reasonable Chef fan.

Translation: I'm a clueless twat who likes to spew garbage but when challenged to back it up, I'll try to deflect and cajole in another direction.

Got it.

Oh, and tater tot... if you want reasonable, perhaps you should join a sewing circle or take a course in cooking with less cholesterol.

What's that? You already are and them nasty old bitches smack you around too?

Sucks to be you, then.

Nothing says "I'm a fucking idiot" quite like this post Whitey.......

Hey, I'm not the fag who roots for a team that plays on a blue field.

Musta' really touched a nerve there, huh spudcakes?

KC Scott wrote:This game is going to come down to this:

Can the Doinks slow the Chiefs ground game? - Maybe if Roaf doesn't play

They pretty well stopped the Chargers running game last week- you know, the ground game that scored at will against the NYGiants last night. Denver's defensive weak spot is pass defense.

Can the Chiefs stop the Doink ground game? - They've stopped Martin & Jordan so far

Anderson is still nursing sore ribs & Bell is doubtful with a sprained ankle. But Ron Dayne will run the fuck over the Chefs, and KC has already proven themselves unable to shut down Griffin

Can Plummer avoid stupid mistakes? - Probably not

Probably not... but then they are playing the Chefs after all so it's not like he has to be Tarkenton or Stabler reincarnated.

War Wagon wrote: but when challenged to back it up......

You first skeletor........

Go ahead and make a supported argument as to why Roaf's presence insures an additional 10 points to the Kansas City offense.......

this is gonna be great .....come on whitey, I'm rootin for ya.........

Hey, I'm not the fag who roots for a team that plays on a blue field.

Yeah, it really sucks to have the team you support own the longest home winning streak in the nation.........

you give new meaning to the term assclown......really

Cuda wrote:

Actually, Pinks, I could make Wags' argument for him ... although I'm not sure I'd attach any points to it.

Ten might not be enough.

Support?

Quite simple, actually. You have a HOF tackle anchoring one of the most dominant offensive lines in the game. A dominant line that makes its living running bread-and-butter plays off left tackle.

First and ten ... everyone knows what's coming, but with Roaf, Gonzalez, Richardson another pulling lineman, it's not easy to stop. Those first down runs often times turn into second-and-short, if not first-and-ten.

Willie Roaf helps our offense move the chains.

Without him, it boils down to a matter of execution. While Jordan Black is more than capable of holding down the left side, it's by no means a given that he will take his man out of the equation.

Suddenly, second-and-short becomes second-and-long when Black's man slides off the block to make a stop at the line. Or, even worse, Black jumps before the snap trying to get into position to block one of the best ends in the game.

What was once as close to automatic as you can get on the OL, now becomes unpredictable.

Roaf offers stability in an unstable game. Take him away and I don't find fault with the statement that you could also be taking points off the board.

Not tonight, though.

Chiefs - 27
Doncs - 24

It's quite simple really , even for you greenie. When Roaf's out they score less points, because they can't run the left side as effectively. When Trent drops back, he keeps having to look over his shoulder to see who's coming, rather than looking downfield for open receivers.

But since you're the one who called what I've seen with my own eyes "idiocy" and "nonsense", I reckon it's more up to you to disprove what I've said, than throw a lame generic label at it.

But you do what you gotta do.

KC Scott wrote:Can the Broncos slow the Chefs ground game? - Maybe if Roaf doesn't play

Not sure, but I like their chances!!! They did a pretty good job stopping that Ladainian Tomlinson guy... 52 total offensive yards!
Roaf must have been on the Chargers roster Sunday night cause that Tomlinson guy ended up with 220 total yards and 3 touchdowns!

orcinus wrote: Ten might not be enough.

I was being conservative.

one great football mind wrote:Quite simple, actually.

another great football mind at the [b]exact[/b] same moment wrote:It's quite simple really...

Case closed, Pinks.

You'll get no argument from me that Roaf is one of the best offensive lineman in the NFL and the KC offense is much better when he's playing, but you both act like when Roaf's not playing there is nobody playing the position........there is, and from their numbers it seems he's filling in relatively aptly.......

The point is that to unequivocally state that Willie Roaf adds 10 points to Kansas City's offense is simply mindless drivel........

Willie Roaf isn't worth ten points to the Chiefs offense 'cuz he never gets in the end zone.


Sincerely,

Eagle fan

You either didn't read or didn't understand my point, Pinks.

The same could be said of the jet airliner that is able to fly along just fine in the event one of its engines should fail.

While it may be true, one of the engines failing ups the probability that another might fail and, in turn, crash said plane into the ground.

Run twenty plays off tackle on first down with Roaf in the game, and run the same battery with Black; the goal of both to be 6+ yards from scrimmage.

If it's not out of the question to assume Roaf's report would return a much higher percentage of successful plays, then why is it so difficult to fathom Kansas City, in turn, having a greater percentage of success on the score board with him as opposed to without?

I never said Kansas City got ten points on the board just from his presence alone; however, I'm not opposed to the claim that you could take ten points away from the final score if he's not part of the equation.

Much like a pitcher is always going to have more success throwing an 0-2 pitch as opposed to a 2-0 pitch, the same holds true for Kansas City on second-and-short vs. second-and-long.

Roaf makes the former much more attainable ... much more often. Play that hand out enough and it's going to equal more lights on the scoreboard.

Comprende?

d-townmike wrote:I can't pick them to win next Monday:

Chiefs 30
Broncos 14

Sorry fellow Bronco fans, but I'm a realistic fan...Feel free to pile on now and pile on some more IF the Broncos pull this one off next week.

The moment of truth is almost here!
Will d-townmike's shirt say “REALISTIC FAN” on the front or “KICK ME” on the back?

Parker can't catch a cold so far.

Can't catch, can't hang onto the ball, and can't tackle without grabbing a facemask.

Yep ... that's how you win in Denver.

Take the punch and get to work.

Ouch.....

The holding calls on KC special teams are killing them .

drummer wrote:The holding calls on KC special teams are killing them .

what? it's not like Hall is running into the endzone or anything..

non factor

godzilla2002 wrote:

d-townmike wrote:I can't pick them to win next Monday:

Chiefs 30
Broncos 14

Sorry fellow Bronco fans, but I'm a realistic fan...Feel free to pile on now and pile on some more IF the Broncos pull this one off next week.

The moment of truth is almost here!
Will d-townmike's shirt say “REALISTIC FAN” on the front or “KICK ME” on the back?

I gotta say I'm impressed so far. But eeeeasy there, GZ2k2. It's only the first quarter.

Looks like the KC defense has improved, just not when it comes to stopping the run which the Broncos are definitely doing right now.

KC loks like they came totally unprepared to play at the level it takes to be competitive, much less win, in Dungver.

Quite disgusting so far. The play calling is as banal as it is ineffective.

C'mon boys. Mix it up a little.

drummer wrote:The holding calls on KC special teams are killing them .

Shouldn't you be over at "Tardland" talking about things tards talk about?

Maas was talking about the edge the Broncos' have on the Chiefs in Denver... on the radio here in KC

I still think the Chiefs have one of the best teams in the NFL... if not the best.

The Chiefs will come back from 17-0, to win this game...


the truth

As soon as I pick-up he Cheifs D, I get plungered in the ass.

m2 wrote:

drummer wrote:The holding calls on KC special teams are killing them .

Shouldn't you be over at "Tardland" talking about things tards talk about?

Maas was talking about the edge the Broncos' have on the Chiefs in Denver... on the radio here in KC

I still think the Chiefs have one of the best teams in the NFL... if not the best.

The Chiefs will come back from 17-0, to win this game...


the truth

The kiss of death!

We're obviously going after the penaly record tonight.

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:The Chiefs' offensive line can't fucking block ANYBODY tonight.

But missing Willie Roaf won't make any difference.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't blame the game so far on Roaf...

KC has a hard time with the roll out.


the truth

Cicero wrote:As soon as I pick-up he Cheifs D, I get plungered in the ass.

If you pick the Chiefs' "D", you deserve to be assplungered.

Might as well quit throwing the ball to Parker.

Bailey goes out?

Getting interesting.

Yawn......another Monday night blow out snoozer.

Unrack the unprepared, uninspired Griefs.......

PS - Please come to San Diego in a sleep walking state.