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Jay in Phoenix wrote:Yes exactly

Left Seater wrote:1. In the video the guy puts an artificial obstruction between the eye and the object. This doesn’t show vanishing point.

2. The board the guy artificially placed in front of the camera is why we can’t see all or some of the umbrella.

3. It is cut off by the board he placed in front of the camera!

4. If perspective actually explained this he wouldn’t need the board. But he does need the board to make it dissappear.

5. This is because he gets above the artificial obstruction he placed in the way of the umbrella.

6. Where is the artificial board in the photo of the power line towers?

Jay wrote:You and Sale have had your asses handed to you up and down this thread.

Left Seater wrote:At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.

Left Seater wrote:Think about what you are saying. Your point is the three foot object disappears before the 50 foot object. I would agree.

Dinsdale wrote:This one's been killing me. I'd love to hear the science behind this "vanishing point" phenomenon.

Things suddenly disappear (apparently at varying rates) based on distance?

That's news to anyone who has ever looked through a telescope.

Lefty wrote:At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.

L TARD wrote:How about the Big Bang? Sure, we've had lots of believable folks like Carl Sagan and even (briefly) Stephen Hawking supporting it. But...it's total bullshit. How about the Out Of Africa theory for the origins of humanity? Lots of credentialed experts are still completely on board with this one, despite the ever mounting evidence refuting it. Yep, it's bullshit. How about the narrative that the ancient Egyptians built the great pyramids? Bullshit.

And so when we come to the seemingly preposterous notion that the earth is flat--or, rather, not the globe of which we've been so soundly assured, well it may seem like a total joke. But, since so many other basic facts of our existence are actually not what we've been told, why not examine some other ideas?

Left Seater wrote:So a 100 foot tower has infinite vanishing points.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:Liar.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:
"Oooh, milk. Just like my mommy makes." the midget smiles for the first time. His gnarled and stubby fingers curl around the cool glass. Meanwhile, the old man has removed his pants and placed his index finger up his ass. He pulls the finger out with a discernible 'POP' and sniffs it. His face scrunches up. There is a nugget of corn on the tip. The old guy sticks the finger into his mouth and begins sucking.

"My, that looks tasty." the troll says with a sigh. "Almost as good as black cock...almost." He tips the milk to his lips and takes a sip. "Yum." he purrs. He then slams the whole glass full of milk down his little hatch.

Left Seater wrote:This is another falsehood on your part. The lower of the power line towers disappearing isn't due to a vanishing point. At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.

In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.

LS wrote:Where is the guy’s vanishing point? He never is gone from view. So where exactly is his vanishing point?

LS wrote:Further we are just to take his word that the yard is flat? If that is the case then you need to take Nasa’s Word on photos. If you don’t then why do we have to accept his word?

LS wrote:But by all means claim a mic drop walk off, without addressing anything.

Lefty wrote:You refuse to discuss multiple subjects that can’t happen with a flat earth model, yet fit perfectly with a globe model.

Left Seater wrote:Further, you claim every photo from space is doctored but we should accept this guy at face value.

poptart wrote:Just like when you drive away from a mountain.
It gets smaller, smaller, smaller... and then finally it has sunk into the horizon and can no longer be seen at all.
Right?

Left Seater wrote:Seasons, sunsets, eclipses, flights between continents, all fit perfectly on a globe, yet you won’t discuss.

Left Seater wrote:Further we are just to take his word that the yard is flat?

88 wrote:Pop. You know that football fields, particularly natural grass fields, are crowned.

88 wrote:Are you still surprised each time someone plays peek-a-boo with you?

Left Seater wrote:If seasons, sunsets, eclipses, Southern Hemisphere non stop flights don’t prove a globe, they certainly disprove your flat earth.

LS wrote:Your psychosis is getting worryingly severe.

poptart wrote:4.Hypothetical: Perfectly level ground. Place a camera on the ground. Begin to walk away from it. How far will you have to walk before your feet disappear from view?
lol

Answer:

LMAO!

Left Seater wrote:But ask yourself why can I still see the upper 47 feet of the 50 foot object if there isn’t curvature? In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.

poptart wrote:It is a matter of perspective.

It is that simple.

Left Seater wrote:If perspective actually explained this he wouldn’t need the board. But he does need the board to make it dissappear.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is looking for a fix to a problem that doesn't exist — stopping foreign countries from picking out troublesome people for a lottery to move to the U.S. They don't get to do that.

He's talking about the diversity visa program, which bears little resemblance to his common portrayal of it. Trump's mischaracterization of the program over the weekend followed a speech to conservatives Friday that drifted off the facts on the economy, the environment and more.

A look at his recent rhetoric:

TRUMP: "I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they're not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don't want to have their good people to leave. ... We want people based on merit. Not based on the fact they are thrown into a bin and many of those people are not the people you want in the country, believe me." — Fox News phone interview Saturday night.

THE FACTS: That's not how it works.

The lottery program is run by the U.S. government, not foreign governments. Other countries do not get to sort through their populations looking for bad apples to put in a "bin" for export to the U.S. Citizens of qualifying countries are the ones who decide to bid for visas under the program.

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions, the State Department randomly selects a much smaller pool of winners. Not all winners will have visas ultimately approved, because they still must compete for a smaller number of slots by getting their applications in quickly. Those who are ultimately offered visas still need to go through background checks, like other immigrants.

The lottery is extended to citizens of most countries, except about 20. The primary goal is to diversify the immigrant population by creating slots for underrepresented parts of the world.



TRUMP on the Obama-era mandate to buy health insurance or pay a fine: "That's gone." — Conservative Political Action Conference, Friday.

THE FACTS: It's not gone. People still risk fines this year if they go without health insurance. Under a law that has been enacted, the fines will disappear in 2019.



TRUMP: "We passed the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: Trump's tax cuts are not the largest in history, despite his frequent claims that they are.

In comparisons using 2012 inflation-adjusted dollars, his cuts average about $130 billion a year, compared with $208 billion a year for President Ronald Reagan's 1981 tax cut package, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget of the Senate proposal that shaped the final overhaul. President Barack Obama cut taxes by a larger average than Trump, in 2010 and 2013, when he made permanent the temporary cuts enacted by President George W. Bush.

Analyses of earlier versions of Trump's tax cut proposals, when they were considerably larger than they eventually became, found that his package lagged Reagan's, post-World War II tax cuts and at least several others when measured as a percentage of the gross domestic product. That's another common yardstick used by economists for historical comparisons.



TRUMP on the Paris climate accord, which he has announced the U.S. will leave: "Basically, it said, 'you have a lot of oil and gas' ... and basically, they were saying, 'Don't use it. You can't use it.'" He added: "They called India a developing nation. They call China a developing nation. But the United States? We're developed. We can pay." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: That's a misrepresentation of the accord on several fronts. First, emission targets in the accord are voluntary, determined by individual nations, and they can be made stronger or weaker by each country. So while the agreement is aimed at achieving more clean energy, nothing in it stops the U.S. from exploiting its petroleum reserves.

Second, Trump is stating a distinction between developed and developing nations that was relevant in the decades-old Kyoto Protocol on global warming but is largely meaningless in the Paris agreement.

Such differential treatment "has nothing to do with the Paris Agreement," said Henry "Jake" Jacoby, founding co-director of MIT's Joint Center on the Science and Policy of Global Change, in an email. "The Paris Agreement does NOT ... impose specific differential action among countries regarding greenhouse emissions abatement."

It merely affirms a "moral" obligation for richer countries to help poorer ones achieve a cleaner energy future, he said.

Nigel Purvis, an international law expert who was a State Department climate negotiator both in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations, said no country is obligated to make financial payments to any other country under the Paris accord. "That is exactly what the Bush administration and Congress said they wanted instead of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which did have different obligations for developed and developing nations," he said.



TRUMP on the Paris accord: "You know, China — their agreement didn't kick in until 2030. Right? Our agreement kicks in immediately." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: No. The accord already affects China, which pledged to peak its emissions by 2030, not to wait until then to take action.

"That means gradual slowdown in the growth of their emissions between now and then," said John Sterman, director of the Sloan Sustainability Initiative at the MIT Sloan School of Management. "To reach an emissions peak by 2030 China must deploy policies to reduce coal use and promote renewables now — and has been."

The U.S., before Trump, pledged to cut its emissions by 25 percent to 28 percent, below 2005 levels, by 2025.



TRUMP on coal: "And West Virginia, now, is doing great. You look at what's happening in West Virginia, you look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, you look at what's happening in Ohio and you look at what's happening in Wyoming — you look at what's happening all over — it's like a — it's like a different world." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: Coal has not come roaring back and West Virginia's economy, in particular, still struggles.

Nationwide, coal mining has added just 1,100 jobs in Trump's first year and the industry now employs 51,800. That reverses five years of declines, but back in 2013 coal mining employed 78,400. Abundant natural gas has become a cheaper alternative to coal for many power plants and is a key reason for the coal industry's long-term struggle.

West Virginia's unemployment rate was 5.5 percent in December, the latest data available, compared with 4.5 percent in May and little changed from when Trump took office in January 2017.

The national unemployment rate has fallen since May and was 4.1 percent in December. West Virginia has added just 1,500 jobs since Trump's inauguration, a 0.2 percent gain. That's below the nationwide increase of 1.3 percent.

Wyoming hasn't gained any jobs since January 2017. Its unemployment rate has fallen from 4.8 percent to 4.2 percent, partly because fewer people are looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.

Pennsylvania has added jobs and its unemployment rate has fallen in the past year. But coal doesn't appear to have much to do with it. The biggest job gains were in professional and business services, which include engineering, accountants and architects, and a separate category mostly made up of hotel and restaurant jobs.

Ohio has also improved overall: Its unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent in December from 5 percent when Trump took office. The state added 35,000 jobs, a 0.6 percent gain, also below the national average. Its job gains were mostly in education and health care, hotels and restaurants, and manufacturing.

Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump said Monday he would have stormed into the Florida high school to stop the gunman perpetrating the nation's latest mass shooting "even if I didn't have a weapon" as he lambasted the inaction of a sheriff's deputy assigned to the school.

"You don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there, even if I didn't have a weapon

Goober McTuber wrote:

Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump said Monday he would have stormed into the Florida high school to stop the gunman perpetrating the nation's latest mass shooting "even if I didn't have a weapon" as he lambasted the inaction of a sheriff's deputy assigned to the school.

"You don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there, even if I didn't have a weapon

Sure you would have, Donnie.

Left Seater wrote:In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.

poptart wrote:Wrong.

Left Seater wrote:Again you have proven zero. Just accept the yard is flat because that guy claims it is.

88 wrote:Again, you fail.

BSmack wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:

Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump said Monday he would have stormed into the Florida high school to stop the gunman perpetrating the nation's latest mass shooting "even if I didn't have a weapon" as he lambasted the inaction of a sheriff's deputy assigned to the school.

"You don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there, even if I didn't have a weapon

Sure you would have, Donnie.

Just like he defeated the Viet Cong by going raw on 70s pussy.

The West Austrialian wrote:A world-first air route is planned to link South America and Asia, with Perth the critical hub linking the two big travel markets.
The fastest route is via the South Pole but a stop in Perth would be needed for fuel, creating exciting stopover tourism potential.
Argentine airline Norwegian Air Argentina has applied and been given approval for the Buenos Aires to Perth route, and is applying for rights to Singapore, while Airbus and Boeing have done studies on how the route would be accomplished.
China Southern, Singapore Airlines, and Qantas also have rights to fly the route.
Last week in Perth, the Argentine Chamber of Commerce’s Australia executive director, Diego Berazategui, presented the initiative to key WA industry representatives and Argentina’s ambassador to Australia, Hugo Gobbi.
“The study shows that a trans-polar flight between Buenos Aires and Perth would take less than 15 hours and would position Perth as a great midpoint destination for international travellers between Asia and Latin America,” Mr Berazategui said.
“One of the points highlighted in the discussion was that Perth would significantly benefit by attracting ‘in-transit’ passengers — a new wave of visitors from both Asia and Latin America.
“This could have a major impact on the number of people visiting Perth and should be considered an important part of the WA Asian Engagement Strategy.”
Mr Gobbi said that the route “would be a real game changer for both Argentina and Australia”.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:Pssst...Papa. It's 'cause the Bible says it is so.

Even though it doesn't.

Dinsdale wrote:Uhm... yeah. Maybe the bible isn't the best source of astronomy. Or anything else.