T1B

Posted: **Sat May 03, 2025 7:06 pm**

Mikey wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 6:39 pm All I really know is that, whatever position I take, I’m right.

and...

Posted: **Sat May 03, 2025 7:15 pm**

HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 6:43 pm
Mikey wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 6:39 pm
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 5:27 pm Ah the classic Left vs Right tax battle.

The Left says 1% of a Billion is more than 1% of a thousand, therefore the outcomes are unequal.
The Right says 1% is 1%. The input is equal.

Both are telling the truth which is why the argument will never resolve.
^^^^
Gets it. Sorta.

When discussing the national debt, it seems that things get reversed. It all depends on whose ox you want to gore.
I knew we could agree on something. :bonertouch:

It happens on occasion.

TBH, from a selfish standpoint, I hope that they keep the TCJA rates for a few more years. Or even lower them. Once everything is converted to a Roth IRA they can raise them as high as they want. Assuming we still have a country in the next three years.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 12:22 pm**

Who pays tariffs?

And for your further enjoyment the last shipments from China that aren't covered by tariffs should arrive this week. After that you'll be seeing tariff charges added to your bills.

FAFO

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 4:07 pm**

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:22 pm Who pays tariffs?

And for your further enjoyment the last shipments from China that aren't covered by tariffs should arrive this week. After that you'll be seeing tariff charges added to your bills.

FAFO

Not me. I don't have an iphone made by Chinese coolies.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 4:58 pm**

mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 4:07 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:22 pm Who pays tariffs?
Not me. I don't have an iphone made by Chinese coolies.

So you won’t be paying any tariffs? I’ll be interested to see how that works out.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 5:10 pm**

If you chaps need anything, toothbrush, combs, etc - let's make a deal. You don't want to wander around looking like a complete Frankenstein monster.
I'll label it as a 'gift'.

I've had thirty PMs so far, posters are desperate to reach a deal with me. Don't get left out.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 5:29 pm**

Last chance, Mikey.

Hot Bod Beach Floats for your pool, no tariffs! You can't get by without these.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 6:42 pm**

Dr_Phibes wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 5:29 pm Last chance, Mikey.

Hot Bod Beach Floats for your pool, no tariffs! You can't get by without these.

Thanks but I’m not really feeling it.

Maybe you could pack up a couple servings of poutine and send it this way?

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 8:49 pm**

Mikey wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 4:58 pm
mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 4:07 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:22 pm Who pays tariffs?
Not me. I don't have an iphone made by Chinese coolies.
So you won’t be paying any tariffs? I’ll be interested to see how that works out.

Certainly not for any large purchase. It's a moot conversation in any event. China will cave or collapse. There is no replacement for the US market. We might experience some minor inconvenience, they will have their balls cut off and nailed to their foreheads.

You need to stop being such a fucking pussy and understand how economic leverage actually works. I'm sure you can find your balls somewhere around the house.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 10:44 pm**

I didn’t realize you had a degree in “economic leverage.”
Been a CEO for long?

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 10:45 pm**

mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:49 pm
Mikey wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 4:58 pm
mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 4:07 pm

Not me. I don't have an iphone made by Chinese coolies.
So you won’t be paying any tariffs? I’ll be interested to see how that works out.
Certainly not for any large purchase. It's a moot conversation in any event. China will cave or collapse.

Will that be the day before or the day after Mexico pays for the wall?

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 11:00 pm**

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:45 pm
mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:49 pm
Mikey wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 4:58 pm

So you won’t be paying any tariffs? I’ll be interested to see how that works out.
Certainly not for any large purchase. It's a moot conversation in any event. China will cave or collapse.
Will that be the day before or the day after Mexico pays for the wall?

HPG? You wanna get this?

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 11:06 pm**

Mikey wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 6:39 pm
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 5:27 pm Ah the classic Left vs Right tax battle.

The Left says 1% of a Billion is more than 1% of a thousand, therefore the outcomes are unequal.
The Right says 1% is 1%. The input is equal.

Both are telling the truth which is why the argument will never resolve.
^^^^
Gets it. Sorta.

When discussing the national debt, it seems that things get reversed. It all depends on whose ox you want to gore.

All I really know is that, whatever position I take, I’m right.

Except you are not. Billionaires do not pay income taxes on the vast majority of their wealth. They are billionaires because assets they hold have appreciated in value. But they do not sell those assets and realize taxable income very often.

It’s like Mikey’s casa. It has appreciated, but he isn’t paying income taxes on the appreciated value. But he’s a multi-millionaire because he owns that asset (and others). And good for him.

Libtards want to take accumulated assets from others they deem too wealthy, but don’t want their accumulated assets to be touched, even though their own accumulated assets significantly exceed those of the median.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 12:03 am**

mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 11:00 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:45 pm
mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:49 pm

Certainly not for any large purchase. It's a moot conversation in any event. China will cave or collapse.
Will that be the day before or the day after Mexico pays for the wall?
HPG? You wanna get this?

B-I-N-G-O!

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 12:58 am**

HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 5:27 pm Ah the classic Left vs Right tax battle.

The Left says 1% of a Billion is more than 1% of a thousand, therefore the outcomes are unequal.
The Right says 1% is 1%. The input is equal.

Both are telling the truth which is why the argument will never resolve.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/fede ... data-2025/

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 2:27 am**

mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:49 pm

Certainly not for any large purchase. It's a moot conversation in any event. China will cave or collapse. There is no replacement for the US market. We might experience some minor inconvenience, they will have their balls cut off and nailed to their foreheads.

You need to stop being such a fucking pussy and understand how economic leverage actually works. I'm sure you can find your balls somewhere around the house.

I'll call bullshite, you don't actually believe any of that but it makes for decent bluster.
You're going up against a command economy, it's specifically designed for this. It can stop on a dime, turn in any direction and it specialises in damage control. A command economy is a wartime economy. You have nothing, no industrial policy, nothing - just some vague hope 'the invisible hand' will turn up.

The administration don't know what the f*ck they're doing, just the latest example from the past week - the 25% on auto parts got cancelled the day before it was supposed to kick in because Ron Mexico didn't factor in the total collapse of the auto industry.
The tariff policy is dead now, it's just a matter of how much damage it's going to before this is realised. The similarities between this and Perestroika are stark.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 2:42 am**

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:22 pm Who pays tariffs?

^^^ Diego nails it once again!! The consumer pays the tariff!!

Whether it’s a tariff on goods or a minimum wage tariff on people, it works the same! Luckily thinkers like Diego and mvscal are always set in their principles and will call a spade a spade and stick to their guns and not just flip flop because the guy carrying the baton is their hero/villain!

I myself, being a lifelong leftist, absolutely love the artificial tampering of the pricing system. Like when Kamala was discussing price controls on grocery chains, I was absolutely salivating!! I’m just in love with it all, no matter who carries the baton!!

Can I get an “R” for …. no, not you Roaeioux… an “R” for Rent Control!!

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 3:21 am**

We should have a US/China tariff derby pool, I'll run it if everyone's comfortable with that.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 3:24 am**

Put me down as trump eventually backing down, but trying to claim victory.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 3:28 am**

Roux wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 3:24 am Put me down as trump eventually backing down, but trying to claim victory.

Well that was quick. Congratulations Roux

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 3:50 am**

Dr_Phibes wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 2:27 am
mvscal wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:49 pm

Certainly not for any large purchase. It's a moot conversation in any event. China will cave or collapse. There is no replacement for the US market. We might experience some minor inconvenience, they will have their balls cut off and nailed to their foreheads.

You need to stop being such a fucking pussy and understand how economic leverage actually works. I'm sure you can find your balls somewhere around the house.
I'll call bullshite, you don't actually believe any of that but it makes for decent bluster.
You're going up against a command economy, it's specifically designed for this. It can stop on a dime, turn in any direction and it specialises in damage control. A command economy is a wartime economy. You have nothing, no industrial policy, nothing - just some vague hope 'the invisible hand' will turn up.

The administration don't know what the f*ck they're doing, just the latest example from the past week - the 25% on auto parts got cancelled the day before it was supposed to kick in because Ron Mexico didn't factor in the total collapse of the auto industry.
The tariff policy is dead now, it's just a matter of how much damage it's going to before this is realised. The similarities between this and Perestroika are stark.

I've never seen anything more scatter-shot and absurd than this administration's tariff nonsense.

We are inside of a total disaster, and it will be *painfully* evident as time goes by.

Dump is the patsie.

MAGA will eventually realize, and that would be hilarious to witness, except that the consequences for the nation will be so dire.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 4:39 am**

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 3:50 am
Dump is the patsie.

I don't know about that Pops, sometimes people are just really stupid. It's not without precedent.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 8:00 pm**

Huge props to the lawyers who are fighting the piece of shit orange felon.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 10:42 pm**

RACK Vice President Pence

Not all Republicans are bat shit crazy.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 11:00 pm**

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 11:20 pm**

mvscal wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:00 pmWho?

You should be able to remember him. He was one of the few members of the first Dump administration who wasn't a coffee boy.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 11:24 pm**

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:20 pm
mvscal wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:00 pmWho?
You should be able to remember him. He was one of the few members of the first Dump administration who wasn't a coffee boy.

Sorry. Not ringing any bells. Was Liz Cheney unavailable for comment?

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 11:31 pm**

Mike Pence's desperation to remain relevant is palpable.

Posted: **Mon May 05, 2025 11:47 pm**

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:20 pm
mvscal wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:00 pmWho?
You should be able to remember him. He was one of the few members of the first Dump administration who wasn't a coffee boy.

He certainly was while he was in office.

https://youtu.be/SjY4vdyBx0Y?si=B5KPVbsyH-TWiYKT

Posted: **Tue May 06, 2025 12:09 am**

Roux wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 10:42 pm RACK Vice President Pence

Not all Republicans are bat shit crazy.

He sounds exactly like Chimpy Bush. You remember him don't you?

Posted: **Tue May 06, 2025 12:55 am**

Remember when Lefties hated warmongering politicians? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Posted: **Tue May 06, 2025 1:19 am**

Nice av, btw.

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