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Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 12:39 pm
by Roux
The more you talk, the more you reveal that you don't understand.
You do understand that that state taxes exist, right? And that Congress has no authority to reduce state taxes.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 1:53 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
Roux wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 12:39 pm
The more you talk, the more you reveal that you don't understand.
You do understand that that state taxes exist, right? And that Congress has no authority to reduce state taxes.
The states do, don't they? My state has no income taxes.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:24 pm
by Roux
Every state has state taxes, be it income, property, sales, other, or more likely, a combination of them.
Every state has poor people who rely upon SNAP benefits to eat.
Every state will see an increase in their obligation to fund the program, assuming the budget bill becomes law as it passed the House.
Granted, because Louisiana has one of the highest percentages of citizens on SNAP, we will be hit harder than most.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:50 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
There is no Constitutional right to welfare. And, in our society, the criteria for receiving money taken from your neighbors to support yourself is and should be determined by your neighbors.
If the people of Louisiana believe that welfare should be handed out to their citizens in larger amounts and without verification, efforts to work etc., than the federal government now believes is appropriate for federal assistance, they can vote their state taxes higher and provide those benefits. If they do not feel that way, the people adversely affected could move to a different state that provides additional benefits.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:53 pm
by Roux
You're trying to make a point, but it isn't relative to the Congressional budget bill.
Congress isn't changing the amount of SNAP benefits, it is just making the states pay for a greater portion of it.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
by Diego in Seattle
mvscal wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 12:05 pm
Roux wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 2:24 am
Ah, you want higher taxes. Well ok, enjoy then.
The bill extends the tax cuts, idiot. Higher taxes is what you'll get if it fails.
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets. The rest of us would probably benefit if those tax cuts went away.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 3:23 pm
by Sudden Sam
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets.
Link?
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 3:46 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 3:23 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets.
Link?
Is your Google search engine broken?
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:13 pm
by Sudden Sam
I thought we were talking about the current bill.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:20 pm
by Softball Bat
“I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhone’s that will be sold in the United
States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else,”
Trump said in a post on Truth Social on Friday. “If that is not the case, a Tariff of at least 25% must be
paid by Apple to the U.S.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... made-in-us
Diaper King is going to unilaterally begin slapping tariffs on individual companies?
rotf...
Time to get that impeachment thing rolling again.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:22 pm
by Softball Bat
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:51 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 pm
by Diego in Seattle
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 4:51 pm
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.
Oh really?
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:10 pm
by Softball Bat
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Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:10 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
https://www.pgpf.org/article/chart-pack ... ual-taxes/
How could you possibly cut the federal income taxes of the lower two quintiles of federal income taxpayers that presently do not pay any federal income taxes (and have not done so for decades)? Think about it. And once you've accepted that there is no possible way to cut the federal income taxes of people who do not pay federal income taxes, riddle me how any federal income tax cut could not preferentially cut the taxes of people who actually pay federal income taxes moreso than it does for those who do not. Then go back and read your first post quoted here. And then slink away from this thread for a while like you always do when the softball bat of reason smacks you solidly in your dome. You are a progtard wind-up toy. You believe nonsense because you are programmed to do so. It is mathematically impossible to provide preferential federal income tax cuts to people who already do not pay federal income taxes.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm
by Sudden Sam
Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 12:25 am
by L45B
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
It’s such a travesty! And to think, some people believe that the government can lower tax
rates and simultaneously collect
more tax revenue in dollars!! That’s just pure mystique and nonsense!!
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 1:05 am
by Mikey
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm
Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
That would be
fewer taxes. Less tax money.
Sorry. I can’t help myself.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 7:56 am
by The Seer
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 6:10 pm
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.
How could you possibly cut the federal income taxes of the lower two quintiles of federal income taxpayers that presently do not pay any federal income taxes (and have not done so for decades)? Think about it. And once you've accepted that there is no possible way to cut the federal income taxes of people who do not pay federal income taxes, riddle me how any federal income tax cut could not preferentially cut the taxes of people who actually pay federal income taxes moreso than it does for those who do not. Then go back and read your first post quoted here. And then slink away from this thread for a while like you always do when the softball bat of reason smacks you solidly in your dome. You are a progtard wind-up toy. You believe nonsense because you are programmed to do so. It is mathematically impossible to provide preferential federal income tax cuts to people who already do not pay federal income taxes.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 12:11 am
by Sudden Sam
Mikey wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 1:05 am
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm
Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
That would be
fewer taxes. Less tax money.
Sorry. I can’t help myself.
Not a problem. In the real world I’m a grammar and spelling freak. I’ve been the go-to proofreader for decades.
Re: Trump/GOP bullshit
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 3:36 am
by Biggie
88 swinging the big lumber. RACK.