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Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:11 am
by Dinsdale
Softball Bat wrote:
Dunce wrote:I explained why the math was wrong a long time ago... and now you agree?
You are a liar.

Lying out your ass.
On November 14th, 2015, Dinsdale wrote:And you take a number and square it to get the rate of curvature? Really?

That's what you're going with?

Because back when I took (and even passed) junior high math, that forms a parabola when graphed... no section of which ever forms an arc of a circle.
I think you're very confused about whose ass you kicked.

Who's the liar now, beyoooootch?


Yes, you're a PROVEN liar. But go ahead and try your usual, childish backpedaling. It's what you do... you lying idiot.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:21 am
by Softball Bat
poptart wrote:http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

- David Senesac



http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/databa ... dyck2.html

Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile. Look at our response to Shirley to see what happens after the first mile.

- Math Central



https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=l5I ... e.&f=false

The true level being a curve line which falls below the straight line of apparent level about 8 inches in one mile; 32 inches in two miles, etc., the curvature always augmenting in proportion to the square of the distance.

- The Complete Mathematical and General Navigation Tables



https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=ZE0 ... e.&f=false
The degree of convexity of the earth is, as nearly as can be stated in figures, 7 inches and 9/10ths of an inch, or nearly 8 inches in a mile.

- Chambers information for the people


If they are all wrong, what are the true numbers?

2+ years later, we're still waitin' for you.
It is all accurate, it has been accurate, and it is what I have said for over two years.

You KNOW it to be accurate and true.
THAT is the funnies thing here.

Yet you persist in diversion and over-the-top stupidity.

You are a joke and you have NO credibility with me at all.

Sorry.



pfft...

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:24 am
by Softball Bat
Dinsdale wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: One word for you... "gravity."

I know, it's a tough one for you, since they didn't address it in your Book of Fairy Tales that you think explains science.
Softball Bat wrote:
The one showing water clinging to the outside of a ball as the ball speeds and spins through the air?

How about one where air clings to the outside of that ball "as one piece" as the ball whizzes and spins all around.

The atmosphere spins with the globe?
lol

Do you honestly believe these things happen?
Have you ever stepped back and tried to consider these bizarre things?


Funny shit.
Is it.

Where are the experiments showing these fantastical things happening?

Post them.

rotf...


The globe is an utterly ridiculous fantasy and not even the basic elements of what these babbling clowns pass off as FACT can be shown to be true.




#delusional

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:26 am
by Softball Bat
Dinsdale wrote:Yes, you're a PROVEN liar.
:meds:





:dins:

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:12 am
by Left Seater
Softball Bat wrote:
Pot meet kettle. You are full on non answers, yet hold others to a higher standard. Goobs link just put your 8 inches per mile squared crap to bed.

ummm...

No, he didn't.
Go plot your 8 inches per mile squared on graph paper and then show us the shape you plotted. This is very simple, elementary schools students can do it.

Softball Bat wrote:You have no clue about it, Seater, and that is exactly why you have FAILED to reply when I have asked you to verify the dimensions of the globe.
Think about this for a second. I don’t have the ability to verify the exact curvature rate. We can approximate the curvature, but I don’t have a tape measure large enough to do the job. So we have to go with an approximate number.

Your turn, explain how the moon is visible over your house but not mine at the same time. Or ignore this for the 20th time like it has never been asked, which is your specialty.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:24 am
by Softball Bat
Obfuscation, spin, denial, cowardice, revisionist history, deceit, arrogant
ignorance, and BLATANT LYING.




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Sorry, we're done here.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:34 pm
by Left Seater
Softball Bat wrote:Obfuscation, spin, denial, cowardice, revisionist history, deceit, arrogant
ignorance, and BLATANT LYING.
Sums up your takes and positions pretty well.


Softball Bat wrote:Sorry, we're done here.
I will give you credit, with little supporting evidence you hung in pretty long before ejecting. So much for you really wanting to learn the truth. But hey my offer still stands if the Norwegian flight is approved.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:29 pm
by Goober McTuber
Softball Bat wrote:
I am aware of these things, and was three years ago.

But thanks.
Sooner or later, it might sink in.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:22 pm
by Goober McTuber
U.S. Rep. Mark Pocan on Saturday extended a job offer to former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, who was fired two days before he was eligible for retirement, in an effort to help him qualify for his pension.

McCabe, who became acting director of the FBI after former director James Comey was fired in May, was dismissed from his position late Friday by Attorney General Jeff Sessions on the recommendation of FBI disciplinary officials, who said McCabe had not been candid with an internal investigation.

McCabe decried his firing as an attack not only on himself but on the FBI. Pocan, D-Black Earth, said it was an attempt by President Donald Trump to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of potential coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Pocan posted on Twitter Saturday, “Andrew call me. I could use a good two-day report on the biggest crime families in Washington, D.C.”

In a statement, Pocan said it was a “legitimate offer.”

The tweet came after NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell suggested on Twitter that McCabe could possibly earn his pension if a “friendly member of Congress” employed him for a week.

“He deserves the full retirement that he has been promised, not to have it taken away as a result of the President’s political games,” Pocan said in a statement.
RACK Mark Pocan.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:15 pm
by Goober McTuber
Kevin Lamarque/Reuters. wrote:After months of pulling his punches with Robert Mueller, President Donald Trump launched an extraordinary offensive against the special counsel on Friday that shows no signs of slowing down. “The Mueller probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime,” Trump tweeted Saturday, one in a series of increasingly frantic messages in which he called the Russia investigation a “witch hunt”; accused the F.B.I., Justice Department, and State Department of “leaking, lying, and corruption”; claimed that former F.B.I. director James Comey had perjured himself; and alleged that the Mueller investigation is fatally compromised. “Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans?” Trump wrote on Sunday. “Does anyone think this is fair? And yet, there is NO COLLUSION!” On Monday morning, the president tweeted simply: “A total WITCH HUNT with massive conflicts of interest!”

The inciting incident appeared to have been the firing of Deputy F.B.I. Director Andrew McCabe, who was dispatched by Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Friday, hours before he was set to retire with his full pension. Trump was jubilant, celebrating the political assassination as “a great day for the hard working men and women of the F.B.I.” and “a great day for democracy.” The president barely disguised the fact that McCabe’s ouster—ostensibly the result of an internal investigation that found the deputy director had been less than truthful under questioning about a leak to the press—was related to his work on the Russia probe. “Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the F.B.I.!” Trump tweeted. His personal attorney, John Dowd, followed up by calling on Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing Mueller’s investigation, to “bring an end to alleged Russia collusion investigation manufactured by McCabe’s boss James Comey based upon a fraudulent and corrupt dossier.”

Behind the scenes, however, it seems that Trump’s rage had a more ominous trigger. The president was already on edge earlier last week, when it was reported that Mueller had subpoenaed the Trump Organization, the latest in a flurry of moves that suggest the special counsel is digging into the president’s personal finances and those of his family—territory that Trump has suggested would constitute a “violation” of Mueller’s mandate. But the more immediate cause for the weekend outburst appears to have been a letter from Mueller’s team, reported Saturday by The New York Times, that included a list of questions related to the special counsel’s efforts to interview with Trump. Sources told the Times that the questions are meant to serve as a starting point for a sit-down examination under oath. The same day, Axios reported that Mueller had interviewed McCabe about Comey’s firing, and revealed that McCabe, like his former boss, had also written contemporaneous memos documenting his interactions with the president.

Trump, emboldened by Dowd’s statements in the press, unleashed a torrent of abuse at McCabe, arguing that the entire Russia investigation was “based on fraudulent activities and a Fake Dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC”; claiming that McCabe “never took notes when he was with me” (“can we call them Fake Memos?”); and suggesting that McCabe’s wife’s Democratic political connections had influenced the probe. “How many hundreds of thousands of dollars was given to wife’s campaign by Crooked H friend, Terry M, who was also under investigation? How many lies? How many leaks? Comey knew it all, and much more!” (Michael Bromwich, McCabe’s lawyer, shot back that Trump’s tweets “confirm that he has corrupted the entire process that led to Mr. McCabe’s termination and has rendered it illegitimate.”)

The furious barrage was met with tepid concern by Republicans, most of whom remained silent as the president seethed. Senator Lindsey Graham, once a favored golf partner of the president, warned the White House on Sunday that if Trump moved against Mueller it would be “the beginning of the end of his presidency.” Congressman Trey Gowdy, addressing Dowd and Trump, said that if the president was innocent, they should “act like it.” For the most part, however, the G.O.P. caucus stayed quiet—a tacit stamp of approval, perhaps, that shuttering Mueller’s probe could be justified. Senator Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, issued no comment. A spokesperson for House Speaker Paul Ryan affirmed only that “Mr. Mueller and his team should be able to do their job.”

Ty Cobb, the president’s lawyer tasked with addressing inquiries related to the Russia investigation, issued a statement on Sunday dismissing “media speculation” that Trump would seek to fire Mueller. But Cobb’s remarks have done little to assuage fears that a newly liberated Trump, flexing his powers with the departure of his schoolmarmish secretary of state and chief economic adviser, will act impulsively to rid himself of the meddlesome special counsel. Already, Trump has endangered the case against McCabe by taunting him on Twitter, bolstering any claim McCabe might make that his dismissal was politically motivated—not to mention the case Mueller could make that firing McCabe fits a pattern of obstruction of justice. Still, the president couldn’t resist dancing on his enemy’s grave. Is there any doubt that Trump, having dismantled the guardrails restricting his autonomy, might finally swing the ax at Mueller, too?

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:22 pm
by Goober McTuber
Papa Willie wrote:Goobs - you have to be impressed that Ty Cobb is one of Trump's lawyers...
It figures. He was a racist little fuck.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:45 pm
by Mikey
After months of pulling his punches...
Now he's just pulling his pud.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:18 pm
by Goober McTuber
Hi, Dohron.
Washington (CNN) — There's been an important shift over the last few days in President Donald Trump's approach to the ongoing special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election as his rhetoric and his legal team have begun to reflect an increased focus on winning the fight for public opinion rather than cooperating with the actual probe.

For months, Trump's advisers -- political and legal -- kept him largely constrained. Yes, he bashed the Russia probe as a "witch hunt" and a hoax. And he raged behind the scenes. But, he avoided going after Mueller by name and, usually, stuck to the script in public settings by insisting there had been "no collusion" with the Russians and adding that he was eager to sit down with Mueller.

Trump has thrown off those shackles of late, taking his private resentment public -- insisting over the weekend that the "Mueller probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime" and arguing (wrongly) that Mueller has 13 "hardened" Democrats on his special counsel team.

And, on Monday, he added Joe diGenova -- a conservative talking head known for his insistence that there is was an active conspiracy within the FBI to frame Trump -- to the legal team dealing with the Mueller investigation.

What's changed? It's hard to pinpoint any one thing.

The fact that the Mueller probe isn't over -- as Trump lawyers promised him it would be by now -- is likely an issue. (Mueller has set no end date for the investigation.) So, too, is the the fact that Mueller's team met with Trump's legal team last week to go over areas of interest for a forthcoming sitdown with the President. Or it may just be that Trump is finally now realizing that Mueller isn't just going to go away or fully exonerate everyone involved in the probe.

Regardless of the reason, it's clear that Trump appears to have shifted from playing nice (or at least his version of nice) to playing, um, less nice. Or, more accurately, from trying to deal with Mueller's investigation to preparing to win the public perception battle in the wake of Mueller's eventual report.

Everything Trump has done in the last 96 hours suggests that he believes the idea of keeping the gloves off Mueller hasn't had any effect. (It's not clear why he would think that other than because his lawyers and advisers used that carrot to keep Trump from savaging the special counsel to this point.)

And so, with that strategy failing, Trump has returned to what he knows best -- the knock-the-crap-out-of-'em approach to politics (and life). He might not be able to stop Mueller but he sure as hell can influence what people think of him and, by extension, whatever Mueller winds up finding out.

If Trump's base believes Mueller is nothing but a secret Democrat -- he's not, he's a Republican appointed as FBI director by President George W. Bush -- then whatever comes out of the Russia probe can (and should) be discounted.

Given that Trump has no idea what Mueller will ultimately find, knocking down Mueller's credibility is a necessity. It's Trump's insurance plan. If Mueller is discredited, then whatever he finds out is disqualified in the eyes of Trump's most loyal supporters.

Will that strategy work for the broader populace? Polling suggests that more people have a positive image of Mueller than have a negative one but that large numbers don't know enough about the former FBI director to form an opinion.

That lack of knowledge about Mueller could be fertile ground for Trump. Working against him is the fact that so many people who nay have no opinion about Mueller have a strongly negative one about the President. For some (many?) people in the country, Trump attacking someone is all the reason they need to support the attackee.

It's not clear to me, however, that Trump is terribly concerned what the general populace cares about as it relates to the Mueller investigation -- or much else. From the start of his presidency, Trump has played to his conservative base at every turn. There's absolutely no reason to suspect that strategy will change now.

In short: Expect Trump to go harder after Mueller and his team. A lot harder.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:52 pm
by Killian
Goober McTuber wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:Goobs - you have to be impressed that Ty Cobb is one of Trump's lawyers...
It figures. He was a racist little fuck.
The lawyer? I don't know, possibly.

The baseball player? Nope.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:14 pm
by Goober McTuber
Killian wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:Goobs - you have to be impressed that Ty Cobb is one of Trump's lawyers...
It figures. He was a racist little fuck.
The lawyer? I don't know, possibly.

The baseball player? Nope.
Wow. The baseball player got a shit-ton of bad publicity.

The lawyer is reportedly a distant relative.

Thanks for the heads up, Killian. I been edjumecated.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:17 pm
by Sirfindafold
McGoober has never been educated.

Schooled? - Yes, Educated? - No.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:02 pm
by Goober McTuber
Papa Willie wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I been edjumecated.
Why such a racist, Goobs?
That's not racist. That's the SEC dialect.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:14 pm
by Goober McTuber
WASHINGTON — As Republicans run into a buzz saw of conservative criticism over a deficit-expanding new budget, GOP leaders and the White House are looking for ways to undo the damage by allowing President Donald Trump to rescind some of the spending he signed into law just 10 days ago.

Rolling back the funds would be a highly unusual move and could put some lawmakers in the potentially uncomfortable position of having to vote for specific spending opposed by a president from their party. But it would also offer Republicans a way to save face amid the backlash over the bill that conservatives, and Trump himself, complain gives too much money for Democratic priorities.

Trump has been talking with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., about the plan over the past couple of days, according to an aide to the House leader who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the private talks. It is not clear how widely the idea has been embraced by other top Republicans, including House Speaker Paul Ryan or Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, whose offices declined to discuss it.

“There are conversations right now,” said Matt Sparks, a spokesman for McCarthy. “The administration and Congress and McCarthy are talking about it.”

The idea emerged as lawmakers get hammered back home for the $1.3 trillion spending package that, while beefing up funds for the military, also increases spending on transportation, child care and other domestic programs in a compromise with Democrats that Trump derided as a “waste” and “giveaways.”

Trump’s decision to sign the bill into law, after openly toying with a veto, may have helped fuel the unrest.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:44 pm
by Goober McTuber
MADISON, Wis. - China’s proposed 25 percent tariffs would target a wide range of American goods, including soybeans.

The news of additional tariffs is hitting close to home, as a portion of the $14 billion worth of China's soybean imports come from farmers in Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is already leading the nation in farm bankruptcies, so this comes as especially bad news for our state. News 3 spoke with Heidi Johnson an agriculture expert at UW Extension who works closely with farmers in Dane County. She said they are fearful of the tariffs. The dairy and grain industries have been dealing with declining crop prices for years. She added that the impact will go far beyond the farm.

“There's a ripple effect, because there is a whole ag industry that is behind the farmers,” Johnson said. “As farmers have less money, they are buying less, tractors and the companies that make tractors are selling less so it really is a cascade effect.”

Brazil is currently China's largest supplier of soybeans. The American Soybean Association said the U.S. can't afford to lose more share of the market.
Thank you, President Fucknozzle. I'm guessing that a lot of these farmers voted for him.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:06 pm
by Mikey
Better start pushing tofu.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:07 pm
by Goober McTuber
Thank you, President Dumpster Fire.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The combined effects of President Donald Trump's tax cuts and last month's budget-busting spending bill is sending the government's budget deficit toward the $1 trillion mark next year, according to a new analysis by the Congressional Budget Office.

The CBO report says that that the twin tax and spending bills will push the budget deficit to $804 billion this year and just under $1 trillion for the upcoming budget year.

CBO says economic growth from the tax cuts will add 0.7 percent on average to the nation's economic output over the coming decade. Those effects will only partially offset the deficit cost of the tax cuts. The administration had promised the cuts would pay for themselves.

The report paints an unrelentingly bleak picture of federal deficits, which would permanently breach the $1 trillion mark in 2020 unless Congress stems the burst of red ink. The government would borrow about 19 cents of every dollar it spend this year. Deficits would grow to $1.5 trillion by 2028 — and could exceed $2 trillion if the tax cuts are fully extended and if Washington doesn't cut spending.

Republicans controlling Washington have largely lost interest in taking on the deficit, and the issue has fallen in prominence in recent years. Trump has ruled out cuts to Social Security and Medicare, and Capitol Hill Republicans have failed to take steps against the deficit since Trump took office.

Now that conservatives complained about the $1.3 trillion catchall spending bill — which blew through previous budget limits by $300 billion over this year and next, House GOP leaders have scheduled a vote this week on a proposed amendment to the Constitution to require a balanced federal budget. The vote is sure to fall well short of the two-thirds required to pass. The White House is also likely to propose rolling backing some of the domestic spending increases in last month's government-wide funding bill.

Many economists believe that if deficits continue to rise and the national debt grows, government borrowing will "crowd out" private lending and force up interest rates. And if interest rates go up, the government would have to pay much more to finance the more than $14 trillion in Treasury debt held by investors.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:12 pm
by Goober McTuber
Hey, Dohron, read this:
Steve Chapman wrote:White House economist Peter Navarro, whose boss claimed credit when the stock market was rising, now thinks it should be ignored. After Monday's plunge, he said, "The market is reacting in a way which does not comport with the ... unbelievable strength in President Trump's economy." Rest easy, Navarro advised. "The economy is as strong as an ox."

He should hope so, because its burdens are growing. Donald Trump's trade salvos against China moved Beijing to slap new tariffs on U.S. products. He has threatened to end NAFTA, which would wreck the supply chains of U.S. manufacturers and deprive farmers of vital markets. He's itching for a full-scale trade war, and he's likely to get it.

The tycoon who raised high hopes in the corporate sector has revealed a powerful anti-business streak. Get on his bad side and you may kiss your profits goodbye. He's a perpetual danger to every company in America.

Trump's Justice Department filed an antitrust suit to stop a merger of AT&T and Time Warner — owner of CNN, a Trump punching bag — surprising experts, most of whom see no threat to competition in the deal. He urges higher postal rates for Amazon because it has the same owner as The Washington Post, whose coverage often infuriates him.

The administration's effort to block travel from several predominantly Muslim countries brought a lawsuit from some 160 tech firms warning it would impose "substantial harm on U.S. companies, their employees, and the entire economy." His crackdown on undocumented immigrants disrupts agriculture because, as the American Farm Bureau Federation notes, "50-70 percent of farm laborers in the country today are unauthorized."

Trump threatened retribution against Ford and General Motors to discourage production in Mexico. When Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier resigned from Trump's manufacturing council to protest his comments on Charlottesville, the president took to Twitter to demand that he "LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!"

Republicans regularly depicted Barack Obama as a socialist. In 2010, the head of the Business Roundtable, an organization of corporate CEOs, accused him of "doing long-term damage to growth" by creating "an increasingly hostile environment for investment and job creation."

Hostile? Obama never denounced an American company with anything close to the menace Trump routinely exhibits. Business somehow prospered during his presidency. Corporate profits grew by 57 percent, and the Standard & Poor's 500 stock index rose by 166 percent.

Obama drew criticism for imposing more regulations on business, boosting the top income tax rate, overhauling health insurance and running big budget deficits. These changes raised doubts about the future that weighed on the economy.

Economists Steven Davis (University of Chicago), Scott Baker (Northwestern) and Nicholas Bloom (Stanford) attributed weak growth and job creation to "extreme uncertainty" that Obama helped to create through "harmful rhetorical attacks on business and 'millionaires,' failure to tackle entitlement reforms and fiscal imbalances, and political brinkmanship."

Hmm. Does that sound like anyone else? Trump has also attacked businesses, failed to curb entitlements and, through tax cuts and spending bills, created ever-growing fiscal imbalances.

According to the index these economists devised, economic policy uncertainty was greater in Trump's first 13 months than in the same period under Obama — and bigger than the average for all of Obama's tenure. And things are only getting worse.

Obama took the view that the private economy needed extensive regulation to avert assorted perceived harms, which didn't make him popular among capitalists. But he didn't make a habit of bullying corporations to make particular business decisions or demonizing executives who disagreed with him. Trump's idea of a good economy is one in which every company does his bidding — because they are all afraid not to.

His unpredictability breeds anxiety, not confidence. He often sows confusion that makes bad policies even worse.

Davis cites the steel and aluminum tariffs, which Trump first said would apply to all countries, then revised to exempt Canada and Mexico, and then modified to spare several other countries — but only till May 1, when all bets are off. The haphazard approach "causes businesses to step back and wait," says Davis, "and creates a free-for-all among lobbyists, which creates its own uncertainty."

Trump was supposed to understand the needs of American businesses. But he thinks their main function is to serve his needs. Navarro has a point in comparing the economy to an ox, because the president is treating it like a beast of burden.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:45 pm
by Goober McTuber
Another article that has too many big words for Dohron.
Michael D'Antonio wrote: (CNN) — Confronted with a con man -- the greatest and most dangerous con man on earth -- James Comey, the ultimate cop, carefully noted every move Donald Trump made. He also took the measure of the President and those he held close. And he monitored his own responses to Trump, which included feelings of alarm and the sense that the country is in peril.

"Our president must embody respect and adhere to the values that are at the core of this country," the former FBI director told George Stephanopoulos of ABC News. "The most important being truth. This President is not able to do that. He is morally unfit to be president."

In an interview offered as his book "A Higher Loyalty" was about to be released, Comey explained how Trump deployed his usual methods to try to bring him into the alternate reality he had constructed to promote and protect himself. Others had been pulled into this shadowy world, where they shed their morals and became Trump's enablers and co-conspirators.

"It's all about `How do you serve the boss? What's in the boss's interests," said Comey, as he compared Trump to a mob boss. "It's the family, the family, the family, the family...and not, 'So what's the right thing for the country and what are the values of the institutions that we're dealing with?'"

The Trump Comey described is the Trump familiar to me and anyone who has studied him carefully over the years. Charming and persuasive, he turns people into marks who might be manipulated into serving his purposes. In my case, there were suggestions about how much money I could make if my biography of Trump were a "a good book," as he would have it.

In Comey's much graver situation, Trump made it clear his career depended on playing along. Go easy on the investigation of Russia's meddling with the 2016 election. Don't cast doubt on the President's mandate. Operating in classic conspiracy mode, Trump drew Comey into private conversations where no third party could witness his effort to influence him. When this failed, he tried to sell Comey his version of reality, rapidly spinning tales and giving him no chance to object.

"It would be monologue in this direction, monologue in that direction, monologue in a different direction," recalled Comey. "And a constant series of assertions that -- about the inauguration crowd, about how great my inauguration speech was, about all the free media -- earned media...on and on and on and on. Everyone agrees, everyone agrees, I did this, the -- I never assaulted these women, I never made fun of a reporter. And -- I'm sure you're wondering what question did I ask that would prompt those? None, zero. I didn't ask any questions that I recall."

In one phone call, Comey said, "I just remember thinking, 'Everything's gone mad.' And then, having finished his explanation, which I hadn't asked for, he hung up. And I went to find my chief of staff to tell him that the world's gone crazy."

Dealing with Trump does make you feel like you've entered a carnival hall of mirrors. The distortions and arguments are disorienting and distressing, but the process helps Trump determine who can be co-opted to participate in his deceptions. The ultimate example of a man who bought into the Trump madness is Michael Cohen, his longtime lawyer and self-described "fix-it" man whose office, hotel room and home were recently raided by the FBI.

Cohen's tasks, in Trump's service, have included paying hush money to keep embarrassing details of the boss's life out of the press and menacing anyone whom he considered a threat to the Trump mystique. (This is something I experienced firsthand as Cohen called me, and my publisher, to demand an advance copy of my book and offer expletive-laced threats of a lawsuit, which was never filed). His files, which the FBI seized, would relate to more than 10 years worth of Trump activities.


Between Comey and Cohen, the ever-manipulative Trump faces the prospect of being unmasked, and it is this notion -- the idea that the actual truth of his deceptions will emerge -- that has always brought him dread.

For decades, Trump has promoted himself and his children as brilliant businesspeople who just know how to make profits in ways others could not. In truth, his record involves partnerships with shady characters, the abuse of investors whose Trump casino stock plummeted while he took a $5 million bonus, nonpayment of debts and the exploitation of gullible consumers like the ones who bought his courses at so-called Trump University (some paid as much as $35,000) only to discover they could have gotten an equivalent education at the public library.

With the exception of his Trump Tower skyscraper, Trump routinely failed in business. He couldn't make it with the Plaza Hotel, Trump Shuttle and Atlantic City casinos. Add the spectacle of the man pretending to be various publicity agents in order to tell the press that famous women were chasing him -- Carla Bruni and Madonna were two -- and you get an idea of the level of deception Trump practiced.

By the time I met him in 2014 and conducted interview for my biography, "The Truth About Trump," the future president was more famous for playing a successful businessman on TV than being one in real life. His estimates of his own fortune varied widely, but no one could be certain of his wealth because all his business was done in privately held companies. The best estimates were done by Forbes magazine, and Forbes often judged Trump to be far less wealthy than he claimed.

My interviews with Trump were journeys into unreality that required extensive fact-checking of every claim he made. If I was keenly attuned to Trump's deceptions, imagine what a former prosecutor and FBI director with Comey's instinct, experience and training detected.

More important is the moral compass Comey possesses. It permits him to admit his own mistakes, as he did with Stephanopoulos, and reliably points him in the direction of the facts.

As the facts emerge, Trump appears to be getting more agitated and angry. The greatest irony now evident is that in the most powerful office in the world, the presidency, Trump may be far less able to bully and manipulate his way out than in his business career.

Unlike private businessmen, presidents are subject to checks and balances, including investigations by all sorts of powerful adversaries. The light will shine on places Trump sought to keep dark, and Comey's book is just the beginning.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:50 pm
by Goober McTuber
I can admit that both Trump and YOU are fucking idiots. :mrgreen:

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:43 pm
by Goober McTuber
Papa Willie wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I can admit that both Trump and YOU are fucking idiots. :mrgreen:
As expected, the two-dimensional fellow can't do it.
I just seem two-dimensional because I'm so svelte.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:51 pm
by Sirfindafold
McGoober seems two-dimensional cause he's full of number two, smells like number two, and looks like number two.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:04 pm
by Goober McTuber
Speaking of melts, Sirgulpaload, have you been following President Tinyhands' twitter feed? Can't spell twitter without 'twit'.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:15 pm
by Sirfindafold
Following Twitter? No. I read enough senseless nonsense in one of your posts.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:20 pm
by Goober McTuber
Sirfindafold wrote:Following Twitter? No. I read enough senseless nonsense in one of your posts.
Then I can see where The Donald's twitter feed would just be senseless overload. Your tiny brain would melt.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:16 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Goober McTuber wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote:Following Twitter? No. I read enough senseless nonsense in one of your posts.
Then I can see where The Donald's twitter feed would just be senseless overload. Your tiny brain would melt.

IKYABWAI?

Goobs, are you drunk(er than usualm)?

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:06 pm
by Derron
I really have to prop Gobbles on that fantastic cut and paste job. Reminds me of the monkey in the zoo who gets thrown a book, thumbs a few pages and then shits all over it.

Not only is that Gobbles longest cut and paste to date, it proves just how far down his throat he can take the gigantic CNN cock of truth.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:12 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Papa Willie wrote:Now let's see if Goobs can admit that both Trump AND Comey are fucking idiots!
BUT BUT BUT OOOBBBBAAAAMMMMMAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:56 pm
by Goober McTuber
Derron wrote:I really have to prop Gobbles on that fantastic cut and paste job.
Thanks, buddy. There's more where that came from.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:47 pm
by Derron
Goober McTuber wrote:
Derron wrote:I really have to prop Gobbles on that fantastic cut and paste job.
Thanks, buddy. There's more where that came from.
You are welcome...I can hardly wait.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:41 pm
by Goober McTuber
I'm not even going to cut and paste this one, Dohron. Too big. Too funny.

The 57 most outlandish, outrageous and offensive lines from Trump's Michigan rally

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:13 pm
by Goober McTuber
More like:
Goober McTuber wrote:Image

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:51 pm
by Goober McTuber
Papa Willie wrote:That guy's a fag.
You knew that because his dick tasted like shit?

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:51 pm
by Diego in Seattle
CoS John Kelly just called Rump "an idiot."

Kelly must be part of that vast left-wing conspiracy trying to take Rump down....

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:50 pm
by Left Seater
Goober McTuber wrote:I'm not even going to cut and paste this one, Dohron. Too big. Too funny.

The 57 most outlandish, outrageous and offensive lines from Trump's Michigan rally
Poor snowflakes at CNN got their panties in a wad again? Headline might as well read water is wet.

Re: Trump/GOP bullshit

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 12:56 am
by Goober McTuber
Left Seater wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I'm not even going to cut and paste this one, Dohron. Too big. Too funny.

The 57 most outlandish, outrageous and offensive lines from Trump's Michigan rally
Poor snowflakes at CNN got their panties in a wad again? Headline might as well read water is wet.
Or that 'Trump is a Colossal Moron'. That works too.