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Whoa.....Mr. Killian....explain to me what last year or any other year has to do with THIS year and the teams on the field....

Because they played Texas they get a pass this year? Is that what you are saying? Explain your logic to me....what does playing USC next year or Texas lat year have to do with 2007?????

Can't wait to hear this one....

Each year is independent of the next.....right?

Answer my question about 2002. You dodge and evade like you have one of mTwat's 17 sided di.

You questioning OSU for their play or schedule is beyond comical. Outside of one game in the past 5 years, they have proven that they can hang with anyone in the country. And they have the balls to try it during the regular season, as shown by their previous and future schedules.

Killian wrote:Answer my question about 2002. You dodge and evade like you have one of mTwat's 17 sided di.

You questioning OSU for their play or schedule is beyond comical. Outside of one game in the past 5 years, they have proven that they can hang with anyone in the country. And they have the balls to try it during the regular season, as shown by their previous and future schedules.

What question.....

Now you are dodging mine.....what do any of the last five years have to do with THIS YEAR?

You can't.....

When did past years start counting for this one?

Just curious....

First off, the statement that a college ref went into detail that the call in the 2003 championship game was the correct call. And that if that call hadn't been made, they still hung with a team that was supposed to be one of the best ever, would you still have been proven right that year? That OSU would be slaughtered?

If you can't see the answer to your question, then you have no hope. This one year is an annomoly for OSU when it comes to schedule. They way they have scheduled in the past and played those schedules gives them some lee way this year. They aren't KSU. OSU has proven that they will take on the big boys any time, any place. Because of this, voters and coaches will grant them an exception this year when it comes to their schedule.

Sky wrote: Uh yeah, I was surprised to see this from FSU fan. But really, then MrsT says she was just looking for score updates. Well what exactly does posting or looking for scores in here do? If you are in here looking/posting scores, wouldn't it be safe to assume one could also check espn.com/cbssportsline.com/yahoo.com and get even more accurate and up to date scores? Just checking fucko.

Well according to you crybaby punks there is more than meets the eye on scores. If you dont have the game on TV and watching it, OSU or UM could be down 10 but that isnt the "REAL" score.

Just because OSU is tied in the 2nd half, nobody should post on it. Yet I posted other scores to and you still cry
Just because UM is down 10-0 to Minny, nobody should post on it because that isnt the "REAL" score.

I cant wait to see them hype up OSU-UM as some great game. Only to see both get butcher raped in the bowls.

T REX wrote:

M Club wrote:ol' t rex needs to find a new sport to root for. we all know how the system works, and your boise state/utah arguments are, at best, retarded. a team that works its way through a bcs conference without a single loss is going to play in the bcs title game. unless you're kansas, of course.

Or Auburn.....

Terrible argument.....

I think the SEC had the best bowl record that year as well.....

terrible argument? kansas is undefeated and ranked behind three one-loss teams. auburn was undefeated and ranked behind two undefeated teams. but if yr going to mention terrible arguments, then you should obviously mention the sec's bowl record that year, something the powers-that-be obviously had on hand when choosing between auburn, usc, and oklahoma.

Killian wrote: I assume you said the same thing in 2002. Were you vindicated then? When OSU was supposed to get slaughtered and beat Miami?

And OU was suppose to get slaughtered by FSU or so the media said

That was 2002 Killian. This is 2007 and OSU went undefeated in 2006 in the Big 10 and got raped in january of 2007. It is now november of 2007 and OSU is still undefeated in that joke of a conference after losing a lot of key players.

Killian, Do you really think OSU would beat Oregon or LSU?

Mr T wrote:

Killian wrote: I assume you said the same thing in 2002. Were you vindicated then? When OSU was supposed to get slaughtered and beat Miami?

And OU was suppose to get slaughtered by FSU or so the media said

That was 2002 Killian. This is 2007 and OSU went undefeated in 2006 in the Big 10 and got raped in january of 2007. It is now november of 2007 and OSU is still undefeated in that joke of a conference after losing a lot of key players.

Killian, Do you really think OSU would beat Oregon or LSU?

On a neutral field? They haven't shown me they couldn't based on their play this year, or last. I would say they have a better shot at beating LSU, but they would play Oregon to the final snap as well.

Losing talented players doesn't mean you are going to be worse of the ware the next season. If you asked OSU fans, I'm sure they would tell you that they would rather have Hartline in place of Ginn, and Boekman may be a better leader than Troy Smith.

My point is this, you can't tell shit from the regular season. Someone coming on here and saying "I knew last year that OSU was going to get the shit kicked out of them" rings a little hollow when the team in question has proven that outcome doesn't happen very often. We all looked at OSU in 2002 and thought the same thing. Many are looking at OSU this year and thinking it as well. I'm not falling into that camp, just because they haven't played a team that people on here consider "quality".

Hell, most people on here thought that OSU was going to beat Florida, and UF turned that theory on it's head.

Killian wrote: They way they have scheduled in the past and played those schedules gives them some lee way this year. T.

So other year's schedules play into this year?

Does anyone agree with this?

I have a huge problem with that.

T REX wrote:

Killian wrote: They way they have scheduled in the past and played those schedules gives them some lee way this year. T.

So other year's schedules play into this year?

Does anyone agree with this?

I understand Killian's point, and I agree with him. You're just too fucking retarded to understand.

Oh reeeeallllly?

So, if we're granting "leeway" for things from previous years, then Oregon gets a freebie to the Tile Game if they win out, based on fuckjobs in 2001 and "no BCS Bowl for your one-loss-ass, because you played a 1AA" two years ago. (Nevermind that it was the Top Dog od 1AA, traditionally.)

Oregon has been screwed worse than anyone in the BCS Era. If "leeway" is a factor, then bring on the BCS Bowl(assuming three more W's).

I didn’t think Killian was suggesting leeway in terms of tOSU’s place in the rankings, but rather cutting them some slack on their OOC scheduling. They don't generally shy away from scheduling tough teams. From what I've seen of them this year, I'd like their chances against any other team in college football.

That's exactly my point. Everyone who is jumping in here to criticize OSU for their OOC schedule, take a step back. This year is an annomoly, not the standard for OSU. So for anyone to take a shot at them is comical. We're not talking about a team that set out to try and schedule a MNC run.

T REX wrote:When did past years start counting for this one?

Just curious....

This coming from you, who just a page ago, cried about how Auburn '04 was undefeated and got left hangin'.

Once again, you take an argument (like past year's results) but only use the portion of it that supports your take. And then you question how someone else could use a similar argument. You're a whining babbling hypocrite.

kentucky played Kent State...

just sayin

Killian wrote:That's exactly my point. Everyone who is jumping in here to criticize OSU for their OOC schedule, take a step back. This year is an annomoly, not the standard for OSU. So for anyone to take a shot at them is comical. We're not talking about a team that set out to try and schedule a MNC run.

What does it matter? Intent is irrelevant.

the body of work should be the basis nothing else.

Also, I am not asking for "leeway" for Auburn....or for anybody....actually forget about the past becuase you idiots can't comprehend what I am saying.....fuck year's past....

Fuck that OSU scheduled somebody two years ago.....or last year...or nest year.....tell me what that has to do with THIS year....

I can't believe I am hearing this from any of you.....this is opposite of what I know most of you guys to believe

buckeye_in_sc wrote:kentucky played Kent State...

just sayin

auburn played tenn tech

gates played western kentucky

ect. ect.

right...but it keeps coming up that tOSU played Kent, Akron, Washington, and YSU...I mean it ain't like UF played world beaters in their non con either...but what do I know...

can we get a NCAA playoff troll up in this beeyotch...

In defense of tOSU’s ooc schedule, Washington was a winning program with Neuheisel as coach just 5 years ago, and I know that a lot of CFB ooc schedules are set up further out than 5 years. You schedule a team when they look pretty good, and 5-7 years later when it’s time to play the games, they’re in the shitter. Also, I understand that Syracuse was on the schedule for this year and backed out.

That explains ONE team.

Are you telling us Kent, Akron, and YSU were BCS contenders 5 years ago?

Hawaii plays washington too.

If Hawaii wins out, Do they deserve a automatic trip to the championship?

I mean UDub was good 5 years ago, so that has got to count for somthing.

Mr Thickhead,

Actually that covers two teams: Washington and Syracuse. I’ll try and explain it again, see if you can follow along. I’m not trying to suggest that tOSU has an extremely respectable ooc schedule. I’m suggesting that anywhere from 5 to 7 years ago they made an effort to put together a decent ooc schedule. These things happen.

I mean, gee Mr Tard, they should probably try to schedule 4 really good BCS opponents ooc every year, just in case a couple of them are shitty by the time they play them.

Colorado was good 5 years ago to...big fucking deal...

no Buckeye fan has said their schedule is anything but rancid...horrid, etc...

no excuse...but this is not the same situation as the Auburn situation since there were 3 undefeated teams at the top...heck I think anyteam without a loss should be ahead of all teams with 1 loss...but with the imperfect system we have we don't get that....same as in college basketball...but they settle it on the court...

T REX wrote:If you read any of my posts.....why is OSU number one?

their schedule does NOT dictate it.....Auburn was punished for playing a I-AA team a few years back....what's different this year? OSU hasn't played dick.....what's funny is they all agree.

"We're undefeated!" That's the argument? Oh, just because they are in a major conference even though it absolutely sucks this year?

Have you looked at their schedule? EVerybody crucified SEc schools.....OSU played I-AA YSU, KENT, and Akron...talk to me here....

Hey sherlock, do you remember what else was going on w/ Auburn that year? Oh yeah, there were two other undefeated teams. Is that the case this year? Are there two other undefeated teams that deserve to be ahead of tOSU?

And we haven't once said tOSU's schedule is tops but when it was scheduled 3 or 4 years ago, you can't do much about it. OSU has done everything they could and 90% of the time, they do sack up and play a big OOC game. It just sucks that Washington is down this year.

Goober McTuber wrote:Mr Thickhead,

Actually that covers two teams: Washington and Syracuse. I’ll try and explain it again, see if you can follow along. I’m not trying to suggest that tOSU has an extremely respectable ooc schedule. I’m suggesting that anywhere from 5 to 7 years ago they made an effort to put together a decent ooc schedule. These things happen.

I mean, gee Mr Tard, they should probably try to schedule 4 really good BCS opponents ooc every year, just in case a couple of them are shitty by the time they play them.

OSU hasnt played Syracuse in 2007.

Atleast know what you are talking about if you are running your mouth.

Fucking moron.

That is another flaw with CF...many OOC schedules are set so far in advance...i think all teams in the top 40 should be mandated to leave one open date and play a mandated game against another top 40 team each year on top of any ooc games you already have scheduled...

just a tought...

kind of like an NFL model...


edit...Mr. T...Goobs said...he knew they scheduled Cuse when they were ok...but they backed out...that is what he was alluding to...

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Colorado was good 5 years ago to...big fucking deal...

no Buckeye fan has said their schedule is anything but rancid...horrid, etc...

no excuse...but this is not the same situation as the Auburn situation since there were 3 undefeated teams at the top...heck I think anyteam without a loss should be ahead of all teams with 1 loss...but with the imperfect system we have we don't get that....same as in college basketball...but they settle it on the court...

Playing in Bolder is not a easy task. Ask your rivals.

Your rankings...
1. OSU
2. Kansas
3. Hawaii


I see how buckeye fan would think like that. Avoid the ass raping and just play Hawaii in the championship

buckeye_in_sc wrote: edit...Mr. T...Goobs said...he knew they scheduled Cuse when they were ok...but they backed out...that is what he was alluding to...

You get points for who you tried to schedule now?

I am talking about who you played. Not who you talked to.

Mr T wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:Mr Thickhead,

Actually that covers two teams: Washington and Syracuse. I’ll try and explain it again, see if you can follow along. I’m not trying to suggest that tOSU has an extremely respectable ooc schedule. I’m suggesting that anywhere from 5 to 7 years ago they made an effort to put together a decent ooc schedule. These things happen.

I mean, gee Mr Tard, they should probably try to schedule 4 really good BCS opponents ooc every year, just in case a couple of them are shitty by the time they play them.

OSU hasnt played Syracuse in 2007.

I didn’t say they had, you fucking tard. They were on the schedule. They backed out. Reading comprehension much?

Reading comprehension?

Goober McTuber wrote:In defense of tOSU’s ooc schedule,

I responded about OSU's ooc schedule.

You somehow feel OSU should get some type of golf clap for trying to schedule syracuse.


Lets say....
You run into a girl that you went to high school with. You bs around and talk to her and then go about your way. Does it count as fucking her?

Mr T wrote:...that joke of a conference...

you wankers talk about how great the sec is as if there's an appreciable difference between the major conferences. great, you aren't impressed with illinois or purdue, and by proxy osu, but then you point to the rankings and blah blah blah. lsu is a class of its own, but your next highest ranked team is georgia, who doesn't even control their own destiny in the sec west. tennessee does, and if that's your marker for prestige, well go cal. who else is ranked? kentucky? fucking please. their record is 2-3 against teams not named kent state, florida atlantic, western kentucky, and louisville. [i know louisville was a dark-horse candidate for the mnc, but everyone in the big east gets to sodomize them.] alabama's ranked b/c nick saban is to college football at large what charlie weis is to notre dame and can't even beat a florida state encumbered by a dead body who wastes timeouts for an apple sauce break. south carolina's ranked most weeks b/c they play in the sec and would win every other conference hands down, but they're not in another conference and so every time i look up they're losing to another sec has been. auburn's ok when they're not losing to south florida when they're not losing to every other big east team besides louisville - yet - and that miss state loss isn't that bad b/c miss state has a decent record, padded of course by playing sec teams too busy playing in the sec to win every other conference.

some conferences are cyclically better than the others, but the margin isn't so great that we can discount osu's undefeated run through a conference that's better than last year when it went 2-1 against the sec in bowl games.

Does it count as fucking her?

It does if you're JTR.

Mr T wrote:Reading comprehension?

Goober McTuber wrote:In defense of tOSU’s ooc schedule,

I responded about OSU's ooc schedule.

You somehow feel OSU should get some type of golf clap for trying to schedule syracuse.

There’s a couple of different conversations here, which would be two more than you’re capable of making a meaningful contribution to.

One is tOSU’s ooc schedule. I think that most everyone agrees that it’s not very good. Pathetic, even.

There’s another discussion about whether tOSU aims for a cupcake schedule, or whether they actually made an effort to come up with a decent schedule. They didn’t just call Syracuse, they had them on the schedule. Syracuse backed out. Exactly when, I don’t know.

But again, these schedules are done years ahead of time and it wouldn’t surprise me that tOSU might have trouble scheduling another decent team to replace Syracuse, especially since it’s entirely possible that the 2008 and 2009, even 2010 schedules were already done, making a home-and-home difficult to do.

I never suggested that their schedule shouldn’t affect their ranking. For that, they should probably be a little less emphatic #1.

Mr T wrote: Playing in Bolder is not a easy task. Ask your rivals.

when has michigan lost in boulder? they played some tough games there when cu fielded a much better team than they do now.

M Club wrote:

Mr T wrote:...that joke of a conference...

you wankers talk about how great the sec is as if there's an appreciable difference between the major conferences. great, you aren't impressed with illinois or purdue, and by proxy osu, but then you point to the rankings and blah blah blah. lsu is a class of its own, but your next highest ranked team is georgia, who doesn't even control their own destiny in the sec west. tennessee does, and if that's your marker for prestige, well go cal. who else is ranked? kentucky? fucking please. their record is 2-3 against teams not named kent state, florida atlantic, western kentucky, and louisville. [i know louisville was a dark-horse candidate for the mnc, but everyone in the big east gets to sodomize them.] alabama's ranked b/c nick saban is to college football at large what charlie weis is to notre dame and can't even beat a florida state encumbered by a dead body who wastes timeouts for an apple sauce break. south carolina's ranked most weeks b/c they play in the sec and would win every other conference hands down, but they're not in another conference and so every time i look up they're losing to another sec has been. auburn's ok when they're not losing to south florida when they're not losing to every other big east team besides louisville - yet - and that miss state loss isn't that bad b/c miss state has a decent record, padded of course by playing sec teams too busy playing in the sec to win every other conference.

some conferences are cyclically better than the others, but the margin isn't so great that we can discount osu's undefeated run through a conference that's better than last year when it went 2-1 against the sec in bowl games.

Memo to all: We aren't talking about the SEC...its OSU.....LSU played Va Tech......get over it.

T REX wrote:Memo to all: We aren't talking about the SEC...its OSU.....LSU played Va Tech......get over it.

you're talking about osu? what relevance does one game between lsu and vatech have to do with osu? presuming osu gets through the big ten undefeated - which they won't - then what possible gripe could you have against them playing for the national championship? none. your argument is a weak schedule, which rests primarily on your assumption that the big ten is pure shite, which it isn't. to criticize anyone's ooc schedule is to criticize nearly everyone's, lsu's included.

First the OSU OOC schedule. It's pretty weak this year but how many BCS schools have weak OOC schedules? I'm not going to look them all up but I would guess 70% of them......

Second, this question about OSU not deserving To be ranked #1 because of their weakass schedule. Well, the human polls say they deserve it and oh no, the computers say the same thing. The computers don't give a rats ass about last year but they do care about your schedule, win loss, home and away wins and loses along with some other variables......

To the Florida guys, I hope this answers some of your questions........

L45B wrote:

T REX wrote:When did past years start counting for this one?

Just curious....

This coming from you, who just a page ago, cried about how Auburn '04 was undefeated and got left hangin'.

Once again, you take an argument (like past year's results) but only use the portion of it that supports your take. And then you question how someone else could use a similar argument. You're a whining babbling hypocrite.

Huh?

Just brought it up because they also played a D-IAA and was blasted by all....in here too....

Obviously, you don't have a clue....my point is that it doesn't matter who OSU scheduled in the past or future when pertaining to THIS year.....

you are correct we are talking this year...but all tOSU has done is go out and beat who they are supposed to...amazing how much run Navy gets for beating ND, but no one else does...including Michigan, PSU, etc...

so tOSU has beaten some very good teams in PSU, Wisconsin, Purdue, and MSU (who I think is better than their record)...while LSU has beaten Va Tech (ok they are playing better but they have never won a damn thing), pounded Miss State, beat South Carolina (who is way OVERRATED now) and a couple other cupcakes...yes they beat Kentucky but where are they now? Yes they beat Auburn and Bama, and UF (the three best they have beaten)...I would say Auburn, Bama,and UF are on par with Wisconsin and PSU but yet Auburn and Bama get to hang around the top 25 with 3 losses while PSU and Wisconsin get booted as soon as they lose to tOSU...would that make tOSU any better in anyone's eyes if Sconsin and PSU were still top 25 rated?

Let's see how it plays out...if tOSU runs the table and beats Oregon, Oklahoma, LSU or someone of that caliber in the MNC game then they get a little cred back...if they don't then so be it...