T1B

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:10 pm**

RACK Twizzler....

Errrr....

I mean "Fuck you, tard."

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:26 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
jiminphilly wrote: Most importantly she said they're all 100% nude- in Philly you can't server alcohol
I've been told ity's the only place in the country where hard liquor and full nudity are allowed... I'm also told those laws are routinely skirted in other places.

You are badly misinformed.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:47 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote: You are badly misinformed.

And an example of this is...?

I'm guessing Nevada doesn't have a big beef with chicks getting naked in front of a highball.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:30 pm**

And Interstate 5 is still closed in Warshington at Chehalis. I've seen water over the road there, but not 5-10 feet of it.

So if someone... like say truck drivers, or a guy I know who went and did business in Seattle monday wants to drive south out of Seattle to Portland, that 175 mile drive now takes you through Eastern Washington, and clocks in at 440 miles, which they expect to tale 7-8 hours.

Glad I didn't get fucked into that mess.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:36 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: You are badly misinformed.

And an example of this is...?

Here’s a number of examples.

Additionally, we have full nude + hard liquor strip clubs all over Wisconsin.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:37 pm**

Mikey wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:Umm... Mikey didn't have to evacuate, dumbass.

Mikey wrote:We just got another "reverse 911" mandatory evacuation call.

I guess it depends on your definition of "have to," eh?

Tard.
Well, I was *supposed* to evacuate, but didn't, and nobody came and made me. Nor did they make me leave when I went out to the grocery stores and gas stations that were open in the *allegedly* evacuated area.

So, I guess it depends on your definition of "have to".

If you stayed, and you're still here, you didn't have to evacuate.

A blanket "mandatory" evacuation order phone call covers the governments ass if anyone dies, but the firemen don't come knocking unless you are about to burn down, and yet you can STILL refuse to go. Some people stayed on their property and saved their homes.

As I recall Mikey, the flames never came within 3-5 miles of your place, correct? I know several people in that area, one of which left only because of the heavy smoke in the air blowing his way, as the flames never came within 5 miles of his house nor was he ever concerned he would lose it. He just didn't want to breathe and smell the smoke for two days.

Typical Cliffy technique of focusing on that one meaningless point where he feels he *MIGHT* be right on a technicality, and completely ignored being called out as a tard on all the rest of the misinformation he spewed about So Cal.

Way to hold true to form there, clavinsdale.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:14 pm**

The closest the fire ever got to my house was about 1.5 to 2 miles on the first day. I could see from the top of a nearby hill where the smoke was coming from and that it was blowing in the other direction (northwest). We had clear blue skies all that day.

Next morning we woke up to lots of smoke and got a little worried. Went back to the top of the hill and could see that the smoke was coming from the fire that was burning in Pauma Valley and Valley Center, probably 20 miles away.

We were never in any immediate danger, especially after that first day (Monday) when the wind pretty much died down (it was never very windy at our house), and yet they kept the evacuation order in force for four days total. Like I said, there were at least two grocery stores and one gas station open in "downtown" Fallbrook, between our house and where the fire had moved to, in the hills behind and in Camp Pendelton. That gave me a pretty good feeling about not burning up, but I did keep the truck loaded and pointed down the driveway just in case.

The reason they kept the evacuation order in force was to keep the roads clear and keep people out of the already burned areas, and I can understand that ~sort of~. Fallbrook was the main staging area for fighting the fire and if we had normal traffic on the roads especially during commute hours they would have had a hard time getting equipment in and out. Plus they commandeered the HS football field for a large parking lot. I was doing a lot of driving around on the back roads to keep informed of the situation and look for looters in the neighborhood, and am smart enough to keep out of the way. If they had let everybody back in, who knows what might have happened. It just pissed me off at the time that I couldn't leave town at all if I wanted to get back to my house, and that they felt they needed to keep 50,000 people evacuated so that they could get around without any traffic. Plus the fact that they weren't very truthful about explaining the delay in re-opening the area.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:11 pm**

Yeah, I heard that. One of my friends could see his house from the roadblock, could see that it was not damaged, but they would not let him go through even though he had his license and pointed to the house 1/2 mile down the road. Somebody upstairs had laid down the law that there were no exceptions, I guess. That was on Friday or Saturday, after the fire had moved on.

Someone else I know who lives there got back in early on Friday by saying he had to get his wifes medication. He just never returned to the checkpoint and no one bugged him.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:45 pm**

Mister Bushice wrote:Typical Cliffy technique of focusing on that one meaningless point

God damn, you are one stupid motherfucker.

Let's review -- there was some smack bandied about, over this and that...

Then atomicdad decided to call your tard twin and I "idiots" based on some percieved(in his addled mind) "irony." He even suggested we may be "idiots" because we dealt with some rough weather for 3 months out of the year.

Then, the tard has the gall to adress his smack towards Mikey, rather than his targets(because he's a pussy), who was issued a mandatory evacuation order...

Are you following so far?

Good...

He recieved an evacuation order due to a routine weather pattern in Southern California.

See, THAT was a wonderful example of "irony" that atomicdouche seemed to think made other people "idiots" because they couldn't see the irony.

Get it, you raging fucking moron?

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:38 am**

Dinsdale wrote: Then atomicdad decided to call your tard twin and I "idiots"

That would be "your tard twin and me (meaning you, not me)...

Sin
your local grammar geek

Carry on.

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 am**

Mikey wrote:
That would be "your tard twin and me (meaning you, not me)...

Sin
your local grammar geek

Carry on.

You sir, are correct sir.

I'm familiar with the rule, but for some reason (possibly posting at 1000 miles an hour) didn't apply it.

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:11 am**

Dinsdale wrote: He recieved an evacuation order due to a routine weather pattern in Southern California.

Since when is a wild fire a "Routine weather pattern"?

No one has ever been evacuated in so cal simply because of Santa Ana winds, you stupid dipshit.

Now ask Mikey how many times Fallbrook has burned like that in the last 100 years.

Then ask him how many times a year Santa Ana winds kick up in so cal.

(and FYI when they occur, ALL of So Cal gets them.)

Then ask me how many times I've been evacuated from a "routine weather pattern", OR a wild fire.

The answer would be NONE for both, in 20 plus years.

and this is based on YOUR comment, not A-dad.

Forget already? Here's a reminder

alheimersdale wrote:Why the fuck would you live somewhere that frequently threatens to burn down?

So you see, Dipshit, the whole point being as I said before, So Cal does not "frequently burn down". Small parts of it, mostly back country or where idiots have built homes they should not have does burn every few years, but a vast majority of the place doesn't, and never will.

Jesus. Explaining shit to you when you have fucked up and don't want to admit it is like talking to a 5th grader with the attention span of road kill.

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:52 am**

Mister Bushice wrote:Explaining shit to you when you have fucked up and don't want to admit it is like talking to a 5th grader with the attention span of road kill.

Maybe you should go find a 5th grader with a short attention span...

It's someone you might actually be able to convince that the Santa Anas have nothing to do with wildfires.

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:27 am**

Dinsdale wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:Explaining shit to you when you have fucked up and don't want to admit it is like talking to a 5th grader with the attention span of road kill.
Maybe you should go find a 5th grader with a short attention span...

Road kill like you is a good substitute.

It's someone you might actually be able to convince that the Santa Anas have nothing to do with wildfires.

Unlike being able to get you to comprehend that a wildfire is not a routine weather pattern.

Then again, road kill obviously has a comprehension problem.

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:56 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:And Interstate 5 is still closed in Warshington at Chehalis. I've seen water over the road there, but not 5-10 feet of it.

So if someone... like say truck drivers, or a guy I know who went and did business in Seattle monday wants to drive south out of Seattle to Portland, that 175 mile drive now takes you through Eastern Washington, and clocks in at 440 miles, which they expect to tale 7-8 hours.

Glad I didn't get fucked into that mess.

I'm a Christian alright, but I was also a military man and I know there are times when the world needs to cull the indignant, worthless, sub-human zombie squids .

I wish you would you have hit I-5 at the blinding speed of 4O mph that you're Ford Fiesta could muster.

Knowing that if your aquatic skills most likely match your intelligence, I would be blessed to no longer have to endure your mindless drivel.

The only people I would have remorse for is the convience store handjob boy's that would no longer be able to afford their crack due to your Hardee's wages going into the drink.

Merry Christmas cocksucker, I hope you get a pocket bunghole in your stocking so you can while away the traffic hours while listening to Erasure in total ecstasy.

Dinsdale the clown is going fucking down, I'm on Christ's break and maybe even through the New Year, little bitch.

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:13 pm**

Remind me not to piss warren off.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:13 am**

Dinsdale wrote:But over 35 years since any major tornadoes hit(and the entire state averages about 1.5 a year, and mostly on the Dryside, where it's extremely sparsely populated).

Someone remind me to knock on wood before I start talking catastrophic weather shit next time, OK?

I don't think it hit the ground.

Bet it would look cool as heck if it hit something that was still flooded, though.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:32 am**

So you're a Storm Chaser, too?

Like I believe that.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:26 am**

Dude, it's December. I don't have to "chase" shit. I can just stay put, and they'll come to me soon enough.

I'll tell you what... I ain't a storm chaser, but I am an ameteur armchair hydrologist(due to a lifetime of being a salmon/steelhead chaser... good thing to know about when chasing the sea-runs), and if we get hit again in the next week or two, we've got some serious problems in the U&L. In the Great Flood of 96, it was kinda the same dealio(and the meteorologists are now telling us the ocean currents/temps are quite similar to 96). Started with some windstorms, and there was some minor flooding early in the winter(round these parts, "winter" starts around Thanksgiving), but nothing like this. Then, stream levels came down quite a bit, and there were more small storms, but enough to keep the rivers fairly pumping. Then, in early February... BAM! 3 huge storms stacked up in a row(this last week had two big ones... btw-anyone see the satellite pictures from last weekend? The second one was a freaking monster, size/area-wise -- they have some techy-name for those... "non-rotational typhoon," or some shit like that), and with saturated groud and high streams, 8 inches or so over 3 days was just too much. But tell you what, if by some odd chance we get another stack of them anytime soon(nothing predicted or anything, but that changes quickly), the Upper Left corner of the country is going to wash away. Heck the big rivers(Willamette and Columbia) aren't going to drop from this round anytime soon, and all inland rivers drain to one of those two(in my area, it's all Willamette tributaries), and if there's a huge freshet while they're up, the hydraulic damming would get pretty serious. And since they like to blow federal dollars on worthless disaster relief, we'd all be a lot better off if that Perfect Storm doesn't come.

Here's to a couplefew reasonably dry weeks. Once a year is entertaining and exciting, if it doesn't fuck your shit up. More than once in a winter gets pretty lame.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:42 am**

Sorry folks, but Dins is right. This time. (hey, I'm in the 90 percentile with a few shots and real beers and stuff).

From an e-mail from my brother (sent Tuesday), who lives in Portland with my sis-in-law and their 6 1/2-year-old triplets ...

RadioFan's brother wrote:I had to stop and write you about our wonderful weather the last several days! Man – we have gotten SO much rain here in the last 96 hours! Everything is flooded! You can see the river behind our house from our porch ... We had a strong storm come through over the weekend and it did not stop blowing and raining until today! The Oregon coast is still without power. They got 125+ winds! We have tree braches and limbs all over our driveway and porch! I will have to take a picture for you and show you. Luckily, no big stuff hit the house!

And that's coming from someone who lived in Oklahoma for many years -- the epicenter of freak floods and strong winds + tornadoes.

That's not to say the drivers here don't suck. They do, big time. Many of them would perish if driving in SoCal, not including wrecks, though they do know how to drive in rain, for the most part.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:02 am**

I take it your brother hasn't lived here too terribly long?

Tell him to stick around -- he ain't seen shit yet. While there were some pretty severe localized floods, this truly is nothing compared to 96.

Shiiiiit, the Creek and the Willy didn't even come close to cracking their banks... not even close(although that's usually a day or two after the smaller rivers flood... that whole "order of streams" thing).

It ain't a real flood until the water comes up into downtown Portland. Last time, 12 years ago, people were jet-skiing through downtown Oregon City(first city on the West Coast... might win you a trivia contest someday), using the trees in Clackamette Park(end of the Oregon Trail, confluence of the Clackamas and Willamette) as a slalom course.

Yup... he ain't seen nothing yet. But if the Pacific kicks up a few more bands and turns on the Pacific Firehose(aka "Pineapple Express"), he might.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:02 am**

Dinsdale wrote:...the Upper Left corner of the country is going to wash away.

Woah, not even the customary U & L abbreviation... this could be serious.

Stay dry neighbor, holler if you need help. Last I checked, this Union stays afloat.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:13 am**

BTW-

RadioFan's brother wrote:The Oregon coast is still without power. They got 125+ winds!

125 is pretty freaking serious. 100 is pretty much an every year thing, sometimes multiple times. It's when it exceeds that that things start getting whacky... it takes some pretty big winds to blow stuff down or away on the Coast... anything not well-fastened is long gone already.

Few years back, I spent a night in a friend's boooooyah house, which is pretty much held up by stilts on a cliffside over the ocean. We got about 80MPH that night. Me and my buddy sat out on the decks(which were surfaced with marble... but that's another story... boooooyah place) pounding booze and smoking bowls(takes some work to get a lighter lit in 80MPH winds, but we're resourceful). Branches flying, rain sideways. Good times. But I just can't see doing that at 125MPH. Probably pick a guy up off the deck and pound him into the cliff. If a person has never experienced 80MPH winds -- it's pretty tough to stay upright. I think around 70-75 is where it starts getting hard to walk around. 125.... never done that. Us Intelligent U&Lers(the ones that live inland) don't stick around for that shit, since it may be a loooong time before you can get back home. And for the most part, in conditions like that, no one really gives a fuck if you're stuck on a pass in the Coast Range. OK, they care -- there's just nothing they can do about it(and cell phones don't work in the Coast Range).

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:27 am**

War Wagon wrote: Last I checked, this Union stays afloat.

Quite RACKable.

But we'll be fine(unless more stroms pop up soon, which is looking doubtful at this point, or so says the weatherman).

Only(is that the right word?) two dead in Oregon... could have been worse. And one of them was a 90 year old woman who had a heart attack during evacuation.

The other was an absolutely horrific tale. Somewhere near Nehalem/Wheeler(small coastal towns on my favorite river/bay), a lady was driving her truck, apparently to safety, or home, or something... and the river came up so fast, it engulfed her truck. Anyhow, the guys on the adjacent farms(heavy dairy farming area) saw her having problems, and immediately grabbed some rope/chain and drove the tractor out there. For some reason, swift currents around the doors, I guess, they couldn't get her out of the truck, and the tractor which was to salvage the truck, became their lifesaving apparatus. The heroes braved the swift currents and got to her, but before they could hook up the tow-strap, the current jumped again, and swept her away. A cop was even watching from the other side of the flooded river, helpless as she went downstream.

I believe they found her yesterday.

Just an absolutely gut-wrenching tale. Puts a big damper on all the feel-good stuff of people helping others, and the outpouring of support from the rest of the country.

Doesn't sound like anyone was being foolish -- the folks on the lower Nehalem know a thing or two about flooding, since it's pretty much yearly. But people on the entire length of that river(pretty long for a coastal stream) were universally shocked at the rate it rose.

For some reason, I'm having a hard time shaking the image of those close-knit farm folk down there(who have always been wonderful to me) watching one of their neighbors float to her inevitable death... that's got to be just freaking brutal on the psyche.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:53 am**

RadioFan wrote: I had to stop and write you about our wonderful weather the last several days!
Man – we have gotten SO much rain here in the last 96 hours!
Everything is flooded!
You can see the river behind our house from our porch ...
We had a strong storm come through over the weekend and it did not stop blowing and raining until today!
The Oregon coast is still without power. They got 125+ winds!
We have tree braches and limbs all over our driveway and porch!
I will have to take a picture for you and show you. Luckily, no big stuff hit the house!

you guys related to wolfman?

all he needed to add was a fond memory of a state college experience and a shitty beer and it's a lock.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:47 am**

Mister Bushice wrote:
RadioFan wrote: I had to stop and write you about our wonderful weather the last several days!
Man – we have gotten SO much rain here in the last 96 hours!
Everything is flooded!
You can see the river behind our house from our porch ...
We had a strong storm come through over the weekend and it did not stop blowing and raining until today!
The Oregon coast is still without power. They got 125+ winds!
We have tree braches and limbs all over our driveway and porch!
I will have to take a picture for you and show you. Luckily, no big stuff hit the house!

you guys related to wolfman?

all he needed to add was a fond memory of a state college experience and a shitty beer and it's a lock.

Yeah, he's kinda like that. Maybe you missed the part where I said he's got 6 1/2-year-old triplets.

I posted what he wrote to me. Nice try, though, jackass.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:13 am**

You posted it FOR him. Did I really need to clarify that any more?
Still, He's your brother.

You can't distance yourself too far from that genetic link.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:29 am**

We're supposed to get a couple of inches tonight (hasn't started yet) and tomorrow. Plus winds up to 35 MPH. According to the local weather hacks we'd best be battening down the hatches 'cause half the county is likely to wash away. And the half that doesn't will prolly drown.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:30 am**

Mister Bushice wrote:You posted it FOR him. Did I really need to clarify that any more?
Still, He's your brother.

You can't distance yourself too far from that genetic link.

True.

It's called an e-mail -- outside of a smack board, mensa.

Nevermind, and by all means, carry on ...

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:54 am**

Mikey wrote:We're supposed to get a couple of inches tonight (hasn't started yet) and tomorrow. Plus winds up to 35 MPH. According to the local weather hacks we'd best be battening down the hatches 'cause half the county is likely to wash away. And the half that doesn't will prolly drown.

All of so cal will be washed away. oh noes.

and I'd barren them hatches, man. This is gonna be a bad 'un.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:30 pm**

Mikey wrote:We're supposed to get a couple of inches tonight ....

there's some homosmack in there somewhere.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:18 pm**

smackaholic wrote:
Mikey wrote:We're supposed to get a couple of inches tonight ....
there's some homosmack in there somewhere.

You talking length or girth?

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:04 pm**

Quick check of the stats shows it's rained about 15 inches or so in the last 3 weeks at my nearest NWS station (most of it in about 4 of those days).

That's coming up on half of the annual average.

Exceeded an average December in the first three days of the month. And this place is known for being pretty soggy in the winter months.

And the high water has churned at least one old corpse up off the bottom of the river.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:13 pm**

Let's review here,

they're talking about it lasting 30 hours. We get some blustery shit this time of year in the Interior Vallies, but it usually lasts a few hours, after which the cleanup starts (we got these things called "trees" 'round these parts, and series of multiple 65MPH gusts seems to take their toll on big trees... and the power lines and roofs below them). Shouldn't be more than about a million people or so without power when all is said and done.

I left to go take care of some business. When I finally negotiated all the detours from downed trees and flooded roads, there was no electricity when I got there.

Good times... if your name is Noah.

Hopefully, we're done with the 5+ inches of rain in a two day stretch, but shit's been known to happen around here this time of year. If it happens again anytime soon, it would cause some major flooding.

Uhm... newsflash... Volcanoes? I live in proximity to two.

Windstorms and landslides -- sure, common occurance in winter.

And you don't seem to grasp that if 100 cars can get through a snowy road, 1 fucking billion cars can get through the same road.

nd Interstate 5 is still closed in Warshington at Chehalis. I've seen water over the road there, but not 5-10 feet of it.

So if someone... like say truck drivers, or a guy I know who went and did business in Seattle monday wants to drive south out of Seattle to Portland, that 175 mile drive now takes you through Eastern Washington, and clocks in at 440 miles, which they expect to tale 7-8 hours.

Glad I didn't get fucked into that mess.

Dude, it's December. I don't have to "chase" shit. I can just stay put, and they'll come to me soon enough.

I'll tell you what... I ain't a storm chaser, but I am an ameteur armchair hydrologist(due to a lifetime of being a salmon/steelhead chaser... good thing to know about when chasing the sea-runs), and if we get hit again in the next week or two, we've got some serious problems in the U&L. In the Great Flood of 96, it was kinda the same dealio(and the meteorologists are now telling us the ocean currents/temps are quite similar to 96). Started with some windstorms, and there was some minor flooding early in the winter(round these parts, "winter" starts around Thanksgiving), but nothing like this. Then, stream levels came down quite a bit, and there were more small storms, but enough to keep the rivers fairly pumping. Then, in early February... BAM! 3 huge storms stacked up in a row(this last week had two big ones... btw-anyone see the satellite pictures from last weekend? The second one was a freaking monster, size/area-wise -- they have some techy-name for those... "non-rotational typhoon," or some shit like that), and with saturated groud and high streams, 8 inches or so over 3 days was just too much. But tell you what, if by some odd chance we get another stack of them anytime soon(nothing predicted or anything, but that changes quickly), the Upper Left corner of the country is going to wash away. Heck the big rivers(Willamette and Columbia) aren't going to drop from this round anytime soon, and all inland rivers drain to one of those two(in my area, it's all Willamette tributaries), and if there's a huge freshet while they're up, the hydraulic damming would get pretty serious. And since they like to blow federal dollars on worthless disaster relief, we'd all be a lot better off if that Perfect Storm doesn't come.

Here's to a couplefew reasonably dry weeks. Once a year is entertaining and exciting, if it doesn't fuck your shit up. More than once in a winter gets pretty lame.

100 is pretty much an every year thing, sometimes multiple times.

Quick check of the stats shows it's rained about 15 inches or so in the last 3 weeks at my nearest NWS station (most of it in about 4 of those days).

Quite a lovely place it sounds like. It still probably beats the hell out of upstate NY and working the dumb end of a snow shovel or one of those modified lawnmower thing-a-ma-jigs, but don't worry Dins, i'm not planning on moving to a place where you need to be scuba-certified 3+ months of the year just to go about your day-to-day business.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:32 pm**

atomicdad wrote:don't worry Dins, i'm not planning on moving to a place where you need to be scuba-certified 3+ months of the year just to go about your day-to-day business.

And we appreciate that.

Although, people who live their entire lives in the more southern latitudes miss out on one of the great pleasures of life... the onset of spring.

Human beings are still animals. And when animals endure the "dark time" that comes with northern latitudes, particularly above the 45th parallel, there's a certain feeling that come with the vernal equinox, that can't be fully explained... it's just a strange, yet wonderful feeling that permiates all living things, from the plants and animals, up through the humans.

And it's pretty darn cool.

But since I don't like freezing my ass of in the winter, my location is absolutely ideal for me. It doesn't ever get really warm here in winter(anything over 55 is pretty scorching), but doesn't get ass-chipping cold very often... couple of days here and there. Kinda sucks during the Dark Time, but the other 8-9 months of the year are just about perfection.

After all of this rain has saturated the ground, winter golf is out for a while, though. But you probably ain't seen a ball hold a green like they hold the green here in winter... might have to pull out a green-repair-fork to get it out, but boy, do they hold... a little on the slow side, though. I imagine if one found a dry course(about zero probablility right now), you'd have to actually break your elbows and take the club above your shoulders to get a long putt to the hole.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:00 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:

Although, people who live their entire lives in the more southern latitudes miss out on one of the great pleasures of life... the onset of spring.

You mean like this?

and this?

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:47 pm**

Mikey wrote:
You mean like this?

No.

I mean the way animals and humans react after coming out of 3 months of very few daylight hours... which is a northern latitude thing.

I've got flowers blooming in the yard right now... doesn't make it "spring"... the sun doesn't start going down at 3:30 in spring.

But thanks for making my point -- it appears to be something you don't understand, and unless you live it, there's no way you ever will.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:05 pm**

Thanks, I'll stick with what I've got.
Unless you've spent springtime here you have no idea what that means, either.

I prefer not to hibernate.

I'm sure you'll appreciate that too.

Posted: **Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:12 pm**

Mikey wrote: I'm sure you'll appreciate that too.

I'm actually a big fan of "to each their own," but it doesn't make for particularly good messageboard discourse.

There's a reason why the great bowlers of the world come from here, and it makes hoops really popular, as well. Great alternative to hibernating.

Of course, I missed the bus to go play disc golf this morning(since the new local course in once again above water)... but I was too busy hibernating.

That's all we do here in winter -- sit around, wishing we were in SoCal.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:59 am**

You said, basically, that we don't know what the onset of spring is.

liesdale wrote:Although, people who live their entire lives in the more southern latitudes miss out on one of the great pleasures of life... the onset of spring.

But you're, basically, full of shit. We know what spring is. Maybe we don't know what your spring is.
But guess what (and I know this may come as a shock), the world doesn't revolve around you or the U&L, and springtime comes everywhere.

There's a reason why the great bowlers of the world come from here

Now I see where you all get your famously trend setting sense of fashion.

T1B

Dinsdale Should Appreciate This...