Chasm widens between rich and poor

[Mister Bushice]

Those pics of AP were the funniest goddamn thing that happened here this year. Cliffy dancing in chick skivs is about the only thing that would top that.

[Mikey]

Matter of fact, I could have landed some extremely overpaid work in Iraq contracting for the government (through another contractor ).

The universal answer from everyone involved was "no thanks." State and local governments are ripe enough for the plucking without that getting killed problem.

And to think you could have had discount chow at the end of your shift. You really missed your chance there bubba.
What happened, were they gonna make you wear the BK costume?

[Dinsdale]

Oh... I get it...


You took the old board-bitch standard "You work at McDonalds," and cleverly morphed it into a "you work at Burger King" take.

Aren't you just the clever one?


Because it's not like there were over 150 WTP's in Iraq needing repair/upgrades. And I certainly have never been involved in anything like that before.

[BSmack]

Because it's not like there were over 150 WTP's in Iraq needing repair/upgrades. And I certainly have never been involved in anything like that before.

Now you're working on WTPs? Here I thought you were channeling AP when all along you were channeling Fraudo?

How's that Volvo site coming?

[Mikey]

Oh... I get it...


You took the old board-bitch standard "You work at McDonalds," and cleverly morphed it into a "you work at Burger King" take.

Aren't you just the clever one?

No, I just couldn't find any pics of a self-inflated loser holding a mop in a field kitchen.

So I took the next closest estimate of your "contracting" skills.

[Dinsdale]

Now you're working on WTPs?

No.

I don't discuss professional stuff here, nor will I in detail(since you people have proven time and time again you're not to be trusted with such things, along with other reasons), but I could have sworn I've mentioned working on WTPs... recently, matter of fact.




Just got off the phone, lining up a little tiny bit of work for the coming days... for the federal government(won't mention which branch, but it might well be related to the DoD). Of course, it's through a series of contractors, and every person along the way is getting a big fat cut, and despite all of the hands in the cookie jar, I'll make out alright... although the American Taxpayer won't, for what he's getting for his money. But please, feel free to continue telling me how it's MORE cost effective this way... it's good for a laugh.


While there's plenty of instances where assigning everything to a main contractor is the best way, trying to include no-bid and invisible bidding processes in this makes you... well, it makes you an ignorant douche who is talking out of their ass, and has absolutely no professional knowledge of what they speak.

[Mikey]

Oh... I get it...


You took the old board-bitch standard "You work at McDonalds," and cleverly morphed it into a "you work at Burger King" take.

Aren't you just the clever one?


Because it's not like there were over 150 WTP's in Iraq needing repair/upgrades. And I certainly have never been involved in anything like that before.

You mean WWTP, right?

Specialize in clearing valves clogged with human excrement, do you?

I didn't realize that involved square drive deck screws.

[Dinsdale]

You mean WWTP, right?

Worked on plenty of both.


And if it ain't a new-from-scratch WWTP, I ain't interested.


Filtration, aeration, clarification. Oh wait... you SoCals drink the shit after it's treated. Props.

[Mister Bushice]

won't mention which branch, but it might well be related to the DoD)

Which stands for the Department of Dinsdale, I suppose.

You know, it's the department where the guy in charge runs around telling everyone what to do and how to do it to such an extent that little to nothing actually ever gets done, and what little is accomplished comes out all fucked up, which he promptly blames on his department coworkers for "Not listening to him"

[poptart]

And I hear more derision being slung Dr. Paul's way. Also mindboggling. You have throngs of politicians fighting over how much more of YOUR money they're going to take, and how they'll distribute it to other countries and illegal immigrants to this country. Then, you have ONE guy whose mission is to figure out how to take LESS of your money, and you tards laugh.


That truly is the definition of a fucking retard, ain't it? The one guy who wants to impact your life the least is some novelty act in the eyes of most.

The only conclusion to draw is that the people have grown oddly 'comfortable' with government phallus up their @zzhole.

Despite the messenger (Paul) being over 70 yrs old, it's many of the younger people who clearly recognize the reality of his message.

That being, you're fucked, and the fucking is just going to go DEEPER -- and a lot deeper.
Unless of course you simply don't take it any more.


I remember walking in to my daughter's high school building for the first time.
Encountered a child care center there.
First thought was, "Oh ... for the teacher's with young kids."
No ... for the 16 yr old skanklings who CHOSE to get knocked up.

Gov. steals money from Joe, Fred, Susan, BSmack, Mikey ... douchebag taxpayer, and uses it to take care of Shamiqua's kids.
.... after taking their cut first, of course.

Brilliant!


I vote no.

[BSmack]

I don't discuss professional stuff here, nor will I in detail(since you people have proven time and time again you're not to be trusted with such things, along with other reasons), but I could have sworn I've mentioned working on WTPs... recently, matter of fact.

I try to stay away from work related stuff on these boards as well. Then again, I also don't try to pass myself off as an authority based on work experience that I am not willing to verify.

[smackaholic]

I suspect dins' refusal to discuss "professional" matters here might have to do with the legality of said matters.

[OCmike]

I try to stay away from work related stuff on these boards as well. Then again, I also don't try to pass myself off as an authority based on work experience that I am not willing to verify.

So do I.

Sin,
JCT

[Mister Bushice]

And I hear more derision being slung Dr. Paul's way. Also mindboggling. You have throngs of politicians fighting over how much more of YOUR money they're going to take, and how they'll distribute it to other countries and illegal immigrants to this country. Then, you have ONE guy whose mission is to figure out how to take LESS of your money, and you tards laugh.


That truly is the definition of a fucking retard, ain't it? The one guy who wants to impact your life the least is some novelty act in the eyes of most.

The only conclusion to draw is that the people have grown oddly 'comfortable' with government phallus up their @zzhole.

Gee- do you think that maybe after decades upon decades of the same shit over and over again, it's become the status quo?

Ask the old hippies how well they did with the whole "We can change the world" concept 40 years ago.

[Dinsdale]

Ask the old hippies how well they did with the whole "We can change the world" concept 40 years ago.

Yeah, besides the strides in civil rights, womens' lib, relaxed "morality laws," preservation of Freedom of Speech, and troop withdrawls on what they made into a very unpopular war...

how'd that work out for them?

[Mikey]

Ask the old hippies how well they did with the whole "We can change the world" concept 40 years ago.

Yeah, besides the strides in civil rights, womens' lib, relaxed "morality laws," preservation of Freedom of Speech, and troop withdrawls on what they made into a very unpopular war...

how'd that work out for them?

As of now the net result is 7 years of Bush/Cheney, another very unpopular war, an all out assault on the BoR, and an EPA that is virtually owned by the industries it's supposed to regulate.

[Mikey]

I'm constantly on guard against the Jack Booted Storm Troopers that I know are lurking, and waiting for the first chance turn me into another desaparecido.

[PSUFAN]

Google harder nest time -- you just laid an egg.

Oh, and just for the record -- I've forgotten more about government contracting than you'll ever know. You know... the kind of knowledge you get by actually being involved with such things, rather than playing armchair-mvscal.

Then I guess you would have no problem linking us up to the government work you've been involved in? Or is this one of those Atomic Resume moments?

Fuck you, Brian. Admins, ban this guy or forever be hypocrites!!

--Y2SlopedDome

[Dinsdale]

an EPA that is virtually owned by the industries it's supposed to regulate.

Interstate commerce?

Roads?

Oh...


the industries the EPA is supposed to regulate would be "none."


That's the states gig.


But that's not consistant with a police state, so it won't happen.

[Mikey]

Interstate commerce?

Roads?
Oh...
the industries the EPA is supposed to regulate would be "none."
That's the states gig.
But that's not consistant with a police state, so it won't happen.

There's plenty of interstate transport of pollutants, via air and water.
Or didn't you hear about that in the U&L?

[Dinsdale]

[There's plenty of interstate transport of pollutants, via air and water.

Expanding the parameters of "interestate commerce" to include things that have nothing to do with interstate commerce is one of Big Government's tools of oppression.

[Mikey]

It has a lot to do with interstate commerce.

[Dinsdale]

How are goods not being transported freely between states as a result of pollution?

I'll save you the trouble... it has no æffect.


But expanding the federal powers beyond that which were granted is no big deal, as long as you sell it under "interstate commerce," right?

[KC Scott]

What do they have in Common?

Ross Perot
Ralph Nader
Ron Paul

Hmmm...

Something about Rs

[RadioFan]

You misinterpreted what I wrote. I never suggested that the top 1% in annual income work harder than any other group. In fact, I would be shocked if they do. Most likely, their income is tied to investments rather that wages. But so what?

I was addressing the "all you have to do is pull yourself up by the bootstraps" sentiment.

When it comes to the top 1 percent, let's face it -- that notion is thoroughly ludicrous.

Yet the top 1 percent is earning 10 times more than the middle fifth?

I'm not advocating a redistribution of wealth, and you're right, life isn't fair.

You can work yourself out of poverty.

Not without either government (including military service), or family or a good friend with money -- with very, VERY rare exceptions -- no, you can't. Even if you're single, without any kids. Think about it.

And just because some dude happens to win life's lottery by being smarter or stronger or born to a wealthy family

Bingo.

For as many "cadillac-driving welfare moms," you don't think there are at least as many spoiled fuckstains, whose notion of "work" entails remembering a password on their i-phone?

I went to high school with these people, in the late 70s and early 80s -- shit, they were proud of the fact that daddy had money, and they didn't have to do shit to get it.

Let's get real here, 88.

I know this isn't the theology forum, but -- greed -- is, by far, the greatest human sin.

does not mean that he should have to hand over a big chunk of his check to someone who is not as smart, not as strong or born to a family in poverty.

I'm not saying anyone should.

A little fairness wouldn't hurt, however.

Honestly, do you think the widening income gap is a good thing?

There will be people in the middle.

Sure.

There are "people in the middle" in Mexico. I'd like to hope the middle class here doesn't shrink to that.

Btw, as I told you, I had no power for a week. It went out at 5:30 a.m. on Dec. 10. I got it back two days ago. "Worrying about what some other guy has" was the last thing on my mind.

[War Wagon]

You can work yourself out of poverty.

Not without either government (including military service), or family or a good friend with money -- with very, VERY rare exceptions -- no, you can't. Even if you're single, without any kids. Think about it.

Think about it?

Um, ok...

Bullshit.

I had no power for a week. It went out at 5:30 a.m. on Dec. 10. I got it back two days ago.

My condolences, seriously. I was out for one day and life sucked. That had to be quite the ordeal.

Glad you're fully energized now, even if that means offering up your usual whiny ass, horseshit takes. :wink:

Don't you have a porn subscription site you need to be catching up with?

[Mister Bushice]

Ask the old hippies how well they did with the whole "We can change the world" concept 40 years ago.

Yeah, besides the strides in civil rights, womens' lib,

Hippies didn't have shit to do with those two. I wouldn't exactly call MLK or RFK a hippie, they had more to do with civil rights than a bunch of clowns in tye died clothes. Womens lib had been in forward progression for decades. WWII had more of a positive effect on Womens rights than Hippies did.

relaxed "morality laws,"

Why? Because we saw dirty naked hippies at Wood stock? When it comes to sex, "inappropriate", "vulgar" talk and seeing the human body naked, America is one gigantic puritan village. And where are those members of the hippie generation who are currently of age NOW when they could REALLY make a difference? Choosing to be invisible, or do they no longer care?

preservation of Freedom of Speech,

Try and tell that to Radio stations, TV stations, Hell, even Satellite radio is censored. You can bitch to your neighbor about anything, but you can't say the word "shit" or "tit" on the radio. And try protesting a political event while its happening. You will be shunted to a "Bitching area" well away from the actual area where political protests might be heard by anyone.

and troop withdrawals on what they made into a very unpopular war...

The Vietnam war ended long after the hippies started bitching, and didn't end simply because of their bitching. If that was the case, it would have ended long before it actually did.

So in the end we got a lot of cool music, some minor social changes, but hippies did not change the world. Nixon changed the world, Hippies bitched about it, then smoked dope and banged the old lady.

[War Wagon]

The Vietnam war ended long after the hippies started bitching, and didn't end simply because of their bitching. If that was the case, it would have ended long before it actually did.

So in the end we got a lot of cool music, some minor social changes, but hippies did not change the world. Nixon changed the world, Hippies bitched about it, then smoked dope and banged the old lady.

Doh! Bushice trying to sound all historically (hysterically?) knowledgable and shit.

Nixon was just along for the ride. Sans RFK getting assasinated, he never would have been President in the first place.

Just goes to show how fucked up the party of FDR and Truman was back then, that they'd allow a total fuck-up like Tricky Dick to get elected. I mean, Nixon was so bad, it led to some idiotic peanut farmer getting next.

Thank God for Ronnie.

[BSmack]

And I'm tired of hearing about people working McJobs. If they get of their McAss and work their McFucking nuts off, they can position themselves to do better.

That's all well and good until you get sick. Then you're McFucked.

[Mister Bushice]

The Vietnam war ended long after the hippies started bitching, and didn't end simply because of their bitching. If that was the case, it would have ended long before it actually did.

So in the end we got a lot of cool music, some minor social changes, but hippies did not change the world. Nixon changed the world, Hippies bitched about it, then smoked dope and banged the old lady.

Doh! Bushice trying to sound all historically (hysterically?) knowledgable and shit.

Nixon was just along for the ride.

Two times elected VP, and two times Elected President. First President to visit Russia, and he started the Arms Limitation talks.

So I suppose you think all of those foreign diplomacy breakthroughs he made with both Russia and China had nothing to do with him, or did you just not go to school that year?

Sans RFK getting assasinated, he never would have been President in the first place.

You could say the same about Andrew Johnson, dumbass.

Whitey, Don't even try to rewrite history. Work on spelling for now.

[poptart]

Thank God for Ronnie.

And Netboy.

[BSmack]

And I'm tired of hearing about people working McJobs. If they get of their McAss and work their McFucking nuts off, they can position themselves to do better.

That's all well and good until you get sick. Then you're McFucked.

Boo McFucking Hoo. Perhaps if they had prepared themselves for life, they wouldn't find themselves trying to make a career out of handing french fries out a window.

Prepared themselves for medical costs that are rising at 2 and 3 times the rate of inflation? How the fuck are you supposed to do that?

[Moving Sale]

This thread has now been visited by the bottom fifth in height, intelligence and wit.

If you are so tall, witty and intelligent how come you can't get h right or even quote the right page your own damn link talks about floor thickness?

Maybe you should get some learnin' at that special school your Autistic brats attend.

[Moving Sale]

Rich people have it easy. No doubt.

How the hell would you know?

[RadioFan]

Do you think it would be a good idea to continually give things to your children if they underperformed? Would you say to your daughter: "I know you worked all weekend to earn some scratch and did all your homework, and I know you bought some candy with some of your earnings, but I'm going to make you give some of that to your brother because he doesn't have any. He played X-Box all weekend and hasn't been to school for a week. Oh, and if you work harder and make more, I'm just going to take even more of it and give it to your brother." What kind of lesson is that?

I agree.

I come from the same background as you -- started baby-sitting when I was in my early teens, then mowing lawns, then bussing tables at a restaurant when I was 15. Hell, Texas even allowed me to get a restricted driver's license and I was driving the loop in San Antonio at age 15. I also worked my way through college as well and paid for everything, except tuition.

I worked all through college and law school.

Explain how one works full time and pays for higher education without some kind of help -- either through family or student loans (or credit cards if one is a real dumbass -- I knew people who did that shit). I'm not saying it should be easy, nor am I saying that its the government's responsiblity.

I'm simply pointing out that the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" sentiment means shit if there are absolutely no vehicles nor incentives to help people willing to work their ass off to better themselves.

And, yes, the government does play a role when it comes to public policy that affects the economic well-being of the country. I'm NOT saying there should be handouts for anybody -- only incentives for those willing to work or get a degree/skill. Those incentives have been shrinking while the income gap has been widening.

[RadioFan]

Prepared themselves for medical costs that are rising at 2 and 3 times the rate of inflation?

Ha! That's lame.

Sin,

Tuition costs, student "fees" and textbooks. (I'd like to string up some of the asshats in that racket, btw)

[RadioFan]

That had to be quite the ordeal.

It was a good thing my ex-gf and I had an amicable breakup. :wink:

Her apartment complex was one of the very few in this city that never lost power -- buried electrical lines, go figure. There were anywhere from 4-7 people staying there last week, plus two dogs and two cats (all refugees like me).

Once I finally got power back (it went out at 5:30 a.m. Dec. 10 and they restored it about midday Monday), it took me two days to get all of the limbs out of my yard. My cable was finally restored last night. I had to throw out all of the food in my fridge and feezer. Good times.

[LTS TRN 2]

Actually you do. Namely which corporation is going to do the work if not Halliburton. There really aren't many alternatives.

You mean the business of gang-rape, and subsequent destruction of primary evidence?
http://www.setexasrecord.com/news/20523 ... -rape-case

"Two years ago, U.S. Rep. Ted Poe received a call from one of his constituents, a frantic father who said his daughter had been gang raped while working in Baghdad for an American defense contractor.

The man's daughter, Jamie Leigh Jones, was an employee of Halliburton. She told her father she was being held in a shipping container without food or water after reporting the brutal assault."


Or..is KBR's business simply that of ripping off the U.S. taxpayers for billions of dollars?

[RadioFan]

I'm simply pointing out that the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" sentiment means shit if there are absolutely no vehicles nor incentives to help people willing to work their ass off to better themselves.

Well the world needs ditchdiggers too.

Let's not bring Dins and the Midwest into this, OK?

If this ice storm would have hit the U&L, I would have spent 10 days removing tree limbs from my yard, and that's just outside my front door.


Actually, I keep waiting for the creative ditchdiggers ... errr, scammers, to arrive at my place. It usually begins with, "Hey, I'm sorry to bother you, but I'm just trying to feed my family. I've got a baby and I can't afford to buy her diapers. Can you please let me trim your bushes?"

That's happened at least three times since I've been here.

The good news is that the Bible-thumping tards who also have a penchent for knocking on my door -- even more so than the scammers -- seem to disappear during natural disasters. Oh, except for the folks at "Guts church." They're out trying to convert, errr ... help old people and stuff.

[Mikey]

"Hey. Can you please let me trim your bush?"

Sounds like a pretty lame U&L style pickup line to me.