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War Wagon wrote:

BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:We're no different when we're consumers of a service and I suspect anyone in here who is in management has been in a similiar situation of having to get rid of employees that aren't delivering.

Which is exactly what voters will be doing this fall when McCain's attempt to serve out Bush's 3rd term fail.

McCain will thump Obama in November. I'm talking landslide. Hillary would lose, but at least keep the race respectable.

You couldn't possibly be more wrong.

Obama - McCain is the best possible matchup the Democrats could have gotten. Hillary, by contrast, would have been Democratic Death Wish # 8,902,647.

McCain's weakness is that the Republican base doesn't like him. Between that and their demoralization over the Bush Presidency, they're likely to stay home in November. The one thing that could have changed that would have been Hillary as the Democratic nominee. The mere name of Clinton is, to these people, the equivalent of waving a red cape in front of a bull. They would have shown up just to vote against her. Now they've been deprived of that. No chance in hell of getting them to the booth in November, and McCain loses as a result.

Come November, you'll see states in the Democratic column which probably haven't been there since FDR was President.

I think you've hit the nail on the head Terry. The democrats will sell McCain down the river in the next few months as well. When he's running against a Republican he's their favorite but, quite rightly, now he's a turd.

I personally don't get it. I liked him against Bush in 2000 and I like him now. Character? This man's character is impeccable in my opinion. Leadership anmd sacrifice aren't just words to him, he's lived them. Compared to Obama he's a Giant in these categories.

His biggest problems are his lack of support in the conservative sector, his age and the fact he represents "old school" bullshit, dried up and ready to blow away. Obama's bullshit is nice and new, steam still rises from it.

The prospect of Obama as President is not disconcerting to me, save for the things I've mentioned before, and actually has an appeal I can't explain right now.

Tom In VA wrote:I personally don't get it. I liked him against Bush in 2000 and I like him now. Character? This man's character is impeccable in my opinion.

Tom In VA wrote:The prospect of Obama as President is not disconcerting to me, save for the things I've mentioned before, and actually has an appeal I can't explain right now.

Don’t worry, Pickle in VA, you don’t have to explain it.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: You couldn't possibly be more wrong.

It's all conjecture and opinion at this point, but we shall see.

McCain's weakness is that the Republican base doesn't like him. Between that and their demoralization over the Bush Presidency, they're likely to stay home in November. The one thing that could have changed that would have been Hillary as the Democratic nominee. The mere name of Clinton is, to these people, the equivalent of waving a red cape in front of a bull. They would have shown up just to vote against her. Now they've been deprived of that. No chance in hell of getting them to the booth in November, and McCain loses as a result.

I won't say that you couldn't possibly be more wrong, but I will say that I couldn't possibly disagree more.

Afterall, I'm one of those people who hated Clinton from day one. But right now I have way more respect and admiration for Hillary (which isn't saying much) than I do Obama. I don't trust him, not one bit. I think he's a weasel of the highest order. Better to have the devil you know in Shillary... not that it matters. I stand by my assertion that McCain will thump either one. Conseravatives will show up in just as much force to vote against Obama as well.

President Obama?

No Fucking Way!

Goober McTuber wrote:Don’t worry, Pickle in VA, you don’t have to explain it.

"Pickle In VA" ? You're an odd bird Goobs.

BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:I personally don't get it. I liked him against Bush in 2000 and I like him now. Character? This man's character is impeccable in my opinion.

Relatively speaking and witin context of the race for the presidency. While my mechanic's character trumps that of any politician, McCain, is head and shoulders above Obama and Hillary in the character department.

Tom In VA wrote:

BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:I personally don't get it. I liked him against Bush in 2000 and I like him now. Character? This man's character is impeccable in my opinion.

Relatively speaking and witin context of the race for the presidency. While my mechanic's character trumps that of any politician, McCain, is head and shoulders above Obama and Hillary in the character department.

Still utterly laughable. McCain is a pandering fuck of the first order who will say or do whatever he thinks will get your vote. Even at the cost of selling himself out. "Agents of intollerance" out front should have told you.

BSmack wrote:McCain is a pandering fuck of the first order who will say or do whatever he thinks will get your vote.

Which is different in what way from any other politician, ever?

And truthfully, McCain has taken many stances that go against traditional conservative dogma.

BSmack wrote:McCain is a pandering fuck of the first order

Probably explains his appeal to Dems, the pandering fuck party, in the past.

Tom In VA wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:Don’t worry, Pickle in VA, you don’t have to explain it.

"Pickle In VA" ? You're an odd bird Goobs.

Tom In VA wrote:The prospect of Obama as President is not disconcerting to me, save for the things I've mentioned before, and actually has an appeal I can't explain right now.

Pssst, Tom. Obama is black.

Goober McTuber wrote:Pssst, Tom. Obama is black.

He's actually an African TRYING real hard to be considered black. Either way, what's your point ?

Tom In VA wrote:Character? This man's character is impeccable in my opinion.

Oh dear god...


Tom is known for being the most politically gullible dickweed around, but this...

this...

Takes the cake.



Here's some names and phrases and figures that validate your quest to be the most mush-brained, gullible douche of a pawn you can be --


-Charles Keating Jr

-Theft of $160 billion

-Vicki Iseman


I can keep going, if you like. Few politicians have the resume of corruption that McCain boasts.


Possibly the dirtiest politician of our time.

Of course, McCain came out and said "Well gee willikers, I'm just a dumb ex-POW. Please forgive me America for flagrantly conspiring to steal 160 billion dollars from you. If you give me another chance, I'll never do it again. Please hook a POW up."

Sounded remorseful at the time.


And he was indeed given a second chance. With that second chance, he's used it to pander to every lobbyist that spots him a dime, and pretty much repeated his criminal behavior of the past OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

For a guy who stood before the country and begged for a second chance and that he'd be a boy scout, you'd think he'd go to great lengths to avoid anything that gave even the slightest hint at impropriety.

Has he?

Not by even the most loose standards. In fact, he's embraced his same policies of the past that bore tragic results for the American People, and actually gravitates towards those exact same improprieties.


Yet the Sheeple don't have a problem with that. Ponderous.


Time to tell McCain and his foul ilk "Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, and will hang you in the village square."


But tards like you have instead decided to punish him with the presidency... genius.


A man who STOLE 160 BILLION fucking dollars is of "impeccable character"?

Are you on the sauce again Tom?

War Wagon wrote:

BSmack wrote:McCain is a pandering fuck of the first order who will say or do whatever he thinks will get your vote.

Which is different in what way from any other politician, ever?

And truthfully, McCain has taken many stances that go against traditional conservative dogma.

All of which he renounced in order to get the GOP nomination.

Not that you have noticed or anything.

mvscal wrote:
Link?

You don't need it.

Just a matter of the semantics of "stole," and you know exactly what I'm talking about, even if Tom is shockingly ignorant.

Dinsdale wrote: A man who STOLE 160 BILLION fucking dollars is of "impeccable character"?

Don't worry... I'm in hot pursuit!

Terry in Fantasyland wrote:Come November, you'll see states in the Democratic column which probably haven't been there since FDR was President

I suppose the Jig take 57 out of 60?

Still waiting on the link to where McCain stole 160 Billion dollars.

Tom In VA wrote:Still waiting on the link to where McCain stole 160 Billion dollars.

I don't know about 160 billion, but come November he will be guilty of...

...stealing your hearts.

Cuda wrote: I suppose the Jig take 57 out of 60?

Dammit, there's goes my bucket list, all shot to hell.

Now I have 10 more states to visit.

If I can FIND them in time.

I might just have found a new avatar picture