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BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:Oh. Okay. Lucky you. So a white politican who consorts with White Nationalists but espouses CHANGE we can believe in would get your vote too.

Most of the white nationalists I've seen want to party like it's 1859.

Not really. They're actually no different than Black Nationalists.

Each believes in the genetic and spiritual superiority of their respective groups, "chosen by God" for something.
Each seeks separation from an integrated society. Black Nationalists believe the governments and corporations responsible for slavery OWE them the land and "start up capital" so to speak.
Each, hate Jews.

Etc.. etc..

Just out of curiosity B, you ever MET a true hardcore Black Nationalist ? or White Nationalist for that matter.

JayDuck wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:

JayDuck wrote: I'm not held to a different standard.

Oh. Okay. Lucky you. So a white politican who consorts with White Nationalists but espouses CHANGE we can believe in would get your vote too.

At least you're consistent. RACK THAT I suppose.

If I would or wouldn't vote for this politician doesn't change what standards I am held to.

We've already established that. You don't have to answer the question, I already know the answer.

Tom In VA wrote:Just out of curiosity B, you ever MET a true hardcore Black Nationalist ? or White Nationalist for that matter.

Define "true hardcore". I've met a lot of racists of both colors.

Tom In VA wrote:
We've already established that. You don't have to answer the question, I already know the answer.

Shouldn't your real concern be if a Black Nationalist would be allowed to run, and a White Nationalist wouldn't, rather than who I would vote for?

BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:Just out of curiosity B, you ever MET a true hardcore Black Nationalist ? or White Nationalist for that matter.

Define "true hardcore". I've met a lot of racists of both colors.

You haven't met any hardcores; you're still breathing

JayDuck wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:
We've already established that. You don't have to answer the question, I already know the answer.

Shouldn't your real concern be if a Black Nationalist would be allowed to run, and a White Nationalist wouldn't

I do find it troublesome and potentially damaging to give either one a pass rather than subject BOTH to the same level of scrutiny and disdain.

BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:Just out of curiosity B, you ever MET a true hardcore Black Nationalist ? or White Nationalist for that matter.

Define "true hardcore". I've met a lot of racists of both colors.

Strange birds aren't they.

Tom In VA wrote:

JayDuck wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:
We've already established that. You don't have to answer the question, I already know the answer.

Shouldn't your real concern be if a Black Nationalist would be allowed to run, and a White Nationalist wouldn't

I do find it troublesome and potentially damaging to give either one a pass rather than subject BOTH to the same level of scrutiny and disdain.

I would say the idea that one has gotten a pass and has not been scrutinized and disdained is bullshit. Reverened Wright and Obama's church have been hammered on TV continually for the past couple months non-stop.

JayDuck wrote:I would say the idea that one has gotten a pass and has not been scrutinized and disdained is bullshit. Reverened Wright and Obama's church have been hammered on TV continually for the past couple months non-stop.

Absolutely.

Tom In VA wrote:

JayDuck wrote:I would say the idea that one has gotten a pass and has not been scrutinized and disdained is bullshit. Reverened Wright and Obama's church have been hammered on TV continually for the past couple months non-stop.

Absolutely.

Then I don't understand what your problem is.

My honest answer to your question above is, if there were a candidate exactly like Barak Obama that had gotten this far, but instead of his black associations he was known to have had an association with, say, David Duke. But, in every other way somehow was running his campaign and had the exact same policy ideas, made the exact same speeches, etc. as Barak Obama. And he was now running against John McCain, yes I would vote for him over McCain.

Here's an interesting thought experiment. Barak Obama is half-white, after all, and raised by white grandparents. What if this mythical candidate was Barak Obama? What if, instead of his black associations, it was HIM taking scrunity over associations with white nationalists. Do you think things would be any different?

JayDuck wrote: Then I don't understand what your problem is.

Nor does medical science, so don't feel bad.

JayDuck wrote: Here's an interesting thought experiment. Barak Obama is half-white, after all, and raised by white grandparents. What if this mythical candidate was Barak Obama? What if, instead of his black associations, it was HIM taking scrunity over associations with white nationalists. Do you think things would be any different?

I don't know if White natties are as willing to accept mixed race as the black natties are. White natties might view mixed race as an impurity and not acceptable to engage in white nattiness; whereas black natties might view mixed race as another example of the evil perpertrated upon them - hence one of their justifications for their black nattiness.

If they were accepting of him and he was associated with same, I'm pretty sure things would be the same. The Democrats would wave it off as "Nothing to see here" as they do with Byrd and the Republicans would be sitting back going

"Christ those racist pigs get away with everything, can we hurry up an move Michael Steele and Lynn Swann up the ranks so maybe they'll stop treating us like we're racists. Of course they'll probably lynch them too like they did with Clarence Thomas, Condi, etc.. etc..".

Cuda wrote:Oooooh, I'm Rubber, You're Glue.

No, more like you're elgrandepeehole with (maybe) 10 extra IQ points.

And rack Jay Duck. Excellent points all around.