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poptart wrote:)
- on the government teet

You mean like no-bid government contracts?

Q, West Coast Style wrote:

poptart wrote:)
- on the government teet

You mean like no-bid government contracts?

No, he doesn't mean that at all. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH!

You are soooooo close to getting run....

Cuda wrote:Once again, the tards bring up the "it won't be an immediate cure so we shouldn't do anything at all" argument.

By all means, stick with it; it highlights how fucking stupid you are

That's not what the recent discussion was about.

Feel free to keep making an ass of yourself, though.

Yep. No Bid, 8a, Set Asides, the thing about those teet suckers is they all at least TRY to provide a service and/or product to the community.

Welfare checks get recycled to be sure as people purchase goods and services they need, but is that progress or simply recycling the same money over and over again ?

Cuda wrote:Once again, the tards bring up the "it won't be an immediate cure so we shouldn't do anything at all" argument.

By all means, stick with it; it highlights how fucking stupid you are

On second thought, I guess you're right.

That fact that some technology isn't avialable right here and right now is not at all relevant to the claim that it's available right here and right now.

What was I thinking?

Tom In VA wrote:Welfare checks get recycled to be sure as people purchase goods and services they need, but is that progress or simply recycling the same money over and over again ?

When somebody knocks you over the head and takes your wallet, that cash will also be "recycled" into the economy.

What's the difference between a crook forcefully taking your jack and uncle sam doing it?

not much.

smackaholic wrote:
When somebody knocks you over the head and takes your wallet, that cash will also be "recycled" into the economy.

What's the difference between a crook forcefully taking your jack and uncle sam doing it?

The difference is that the government isn't forcefully taking your money.

JayDuck wrote:

smackaholic wrote:
When somebody knocks you over the head and takes your wallet, that cash will also be "recycled" into the economy.

What's the difference between a crook forcefully taking your jack and uncle sam doing it?

The difference is that the government isn't forcefully taking your money.

Well it is tantamount to extortion. Pay Taxes OR ELSE.

Tom In VA wrote:


Well it is tantamount to extortion. Pay Taxes OR ELSE.

No. It is not tantamount to extortion.

No more so than oil companies increasing their prices, grociers increasing their prices, landlords increasing their prices, Doctors, Pharmacies, shoe stores etc...

They are all "making you" give them money that you would like to keep. None of it is close to the same thing as any criminal activity.

JayDuck wrote: No. It is not tantamount to extortion.

No more so than oil companies increasing their prices, grociers increasing their prices, landlords increasing their prices, Doctors, Pharmacies, shoe stores etc...

They are all "making you" give them money that you would like to keep. None of it is close to the same thing as any criminal activity.

I choose to use gas. I eat food. I like a roof over my head, when I'm sick I want to feel better and having shoes on my feet is a good thing.


Paying taxes for a strong defense is "Give us money and we'll protect you". The mafia used to use that scam. As for other services the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT "provides", what choice do I have ? Zilch.

JayDuck wrote:

Tom In VA wrote: Well it is tantamount to extortion. Pay Taxes OR ELSE.

No. It is not tantamount to extortion.

No more so than oil companies increasing their prices, grociers increasing their prices, landlords increasing their prices, Doctors, Pharmacies, shoe stores etc...

They are all "making you" give them money that you would like to keep. None of it is close to the same thing as any criminal activity.

Jesus H. Christ, you're a fucking moron.

Tom In VA wrote:...what choice do I have ? Zilch.

That's not true either.

You could choose not to work.

You could choose to have your wages garnished, your property seized, etc.

Or you could choose to go to prison. Inmates don't pay taxes.

Or, you could move to a country where you don't have to pay any taxes.

Hmmm....let's see...I wonder where that would be.

Brunei maybe? Not sure you could get citizenship there, though.

Tom In VA wrote:

JayDuck wrote: No. It is not tantamount to extortion.

No more so than oil companies increasing their prices, grociers increasing their prices, landlords increasing their prices, Doctors, Pharmacies, shoe stores etc...

They are all "making you" give them money that you would like to keep. None of it is close to the same thing as any criminal activity.

I choose to use gas. I eat food. I like a roof over my head, when I'm sick I want to feel better and having shoes on my feet is a good thing.


Paying taxes for a strong defense is "Give us money and we'll protect you". The mafia used to use that scam. As for other services the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT "provides", what choice do I have ? Zilch.

You choose to eat? You choose to use gas? Please. No more than you choose to pay taxes, by having a job. Food, clothing, shelter, medical care. These are all nececeties we need every bit as much as we need a job.

Of course, as liberals get told all the time, "If you don't like the country why don't you get the fuck out. You clearly hate America and are just giving our enemies ammunition by telling them how bad you have it here"

Taxes are compulsory. If they weren't people wouldn't go to jail for not paying them. That's all.


I would much rather my tax money go towards productive things. That's all I'm really saying Jay.

Tom In VA wrote:Taxes are compulsory. If they weren't people wouldn't go to jail for not paying them. That's all.


I would much rather my tax money go towards productive things. That's all I'm really saying Jay.

I know what you are saying and I would like to be taxed less myself.

Comparing it to extorition or robbery is just silly hyperbole, however.

Some amount of redistribution of wealth is going to happen in our country. We are not a completely free capitalistic society, nor should we be. America purposefully, and consciously, fought against this idea and the Robber Barrons of the 19th century.

I'm a silly guy Jay.

Certainly, I have no quarrel with contributing my bit to The Man. I value my freedom - read - not having to be in prison. And anywhere you go, the guys with the armies, power and clout to kill you or imprison you - will tax you.

I like it here in the good ole'.

The DPRK became the first tax-free country in the world - in the glorious juche year 63. (1974)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/libra ... kcna01.htm

loves me some freedom!

Q wrote:You mean like no-bid government contracts?

Very predictable.

I'm not a republican.

Nice divert ... not really.

It would be ironic if the enviro nutters who are currently on a "Go Green" feeding frenzy started backing the construction of new nuclear power plants, given that they were part of the reason for stopping construction a few decades ago.

But unless we convert to electric cars, nuclear reactors won't do anything for our oil consumption, and I don't see the dopey dems backing off their ban on drilling for oil any time soon.

mvscal wrote:

Mikey wrote:Mvscal's only current example of PBR...

I provided three examples of technology that is on the shelf right now that can help us achieve energy independence.

You, like all other liberal douchebags provided....nothing whatsoever.

That's not true, mvscal.

Mikey & the other liberal douchebags have provided three ways to bring down gas prices and achieve energy independence: denial, obstructionism, and fantasy.

Democrats are so fucking stupid. They deserve the sphincter ripping they're gonna get in November.

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mvscal wrote:Diesel-electric hybrids are the near term and, quite possibly, the long term future of transportation. There really isn't any way around it. They provide the best economy

Did Tawanna tell you that?

I agree with much of what you said here... except the part about diesel electric hybrids "providing the best economy," which isn't true in the big picture by any means.


And nukes are a dead-end technology, whereas the other domestic alternatives are open-ended for the future. My opposition to nukes has little to do with the inherent dangers, and mainly to do with it being a shitty technology that needs much much improvement to be efficient and worthwhile. Definite step backwards. The amount of energy required to mine, transport, enrich, and secure uranium makes it pretty much a fucking joke as an energy source.

Dinsdale wrote: Definite step backwards. .

Oh... you mean like...



... and...



... and...



Makes nukes & more drilling a better alternative every time.

I have windmill salt and pepper shakers just like those, no lie.

and an apron to match, too, I'll bet.

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completely uncalled for

Martyred wrote:^^^^^^^^^

completely uncalled for

But just silly enough to be amusing.

Martyred wrote:^^^^^^^^^

completely uncalled for

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