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Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Diogenes wrote:Then the same standard should apply to the tool in question.

Yep. And he hasn't made any statements that call into question his competency to teach.

Hypocricy test-Fail.

Not that I'm surprised.

Diogenes wrote:How fresh. Copying a list of articles that claim to demonstrate speciation from a fundie atheist site

and how is it that you know the people that run that site are atheists? As I've pointed out before, belief in evolution and belief in a deity are not mutually exclusive http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/09/19/t ... n-is-okay/

as previously noted, Dr. Kenneth Miller, who pretty much kicked the whole argument of intelligent design to the curb in the Kitzmiller/Dover School Board case is a devout Roman Catholic....

that doesn't happen all the time. Why don't you pick one or two of those that are available for reading online.

I've posted a fairly comprehensive list of scientific journals before where most of the articles cited can be found....just type "scientific journals" into google and your off and running

happy hunting

Diogenes wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Diogenes wrote:Then the same standard should apply to the tool in question.

Yep. And he hasn't made any statements that call into question his competency to teach.

Hypocricy test-Fail.

Not that I'm surprised.

Link to any statements that call into question his competency?

Felix wrote:

Diogenes wrote:How fresh. Copying a list of articles that claim to demonstrate speciation from a fundie atheist site

and how is it that you know the people that run that site are atheists?

Because of their fanatical Darwinism. After all, if all ID proponents are automatically Creationists, then all Darwinists must be stealth atheists.

As far as your list of alleged speciation examples, I already googled 4 of them by title- all you get is more of your fellow atheists reprinting the same list.

As far as Terry's 'competency' hypocrisy...

Discussing the shortcomings of 'scientific' dogma isn't a sign of lack of competence. No matter what you and your fellow atheists believe.

Diogenes wrote: Because of their fanatical Darwinism. After all, if all ID proponents are automatically Creationists, then all Darwinists must be stealth atheists.

I've never said that all that support the idea of intelligent design are creationists, but you'd be hard pressed to find ones that aren't

but as I've stated, the pope says it's okay to believe in the theory of evolution, and I'm pretty sure that he's as far from being an atheist as is possible

As far as your list of alleged speciation examples, I already googled 4 of them by title- all you get is more of your fellow atheists reprinting the same list.

you need to look in scientific journals....I've already told you that
fuck I hate having to tell somebody the same thing five fucking times

Diogenes wrote:Discussing the shortcomings of 'scientific' dogma isn't a sign of lack of competence. No matter what you and your fellow atheists believe.

So, disproving evolution is tantamount to proving creationism? That's nice to know.

And Felix already addressed the "atheist" statement. But while we're at it, didn't you say you once studied to be a priest? If so, you should have known as well as anybody.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Diogenes wrote:Discussing the shortcomings of 'scientific' dogma isn't a sign of lack of competence. No matter what you and your fellow atheists believe.

So, disproving evolution is tantamount to proving creationism? That's nice to know.

I didn't say anything about evolution per se or Creationism. I was referring to Darwinists (followers of the current modern evolutionary synthesis-to be referred to in the future as stealth atheists) and ID advocates.
As far as the preisthood...

I'm not even Catholic.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
So, disproving evolution is tantamount to proving creationism? That's nice to know.

you didn't know that?
if creationists can somehow disprove evolution, they believe that by default their belief in a magical sky daddy is then true

of course that's pure horseshit...but not in their fantasy land