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trev wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:
If you'd like, I can easily go through your post history and find many examples of judging.

Are you sure you have time for that?

Truthfully, I don't. I'm hoping he doesn't call my bluff. However, if he does, I will own him.

IndyFrisco wrote: Truthfully, I don't. I'm hoping he doesn't call my bluff. However, if he does, I will own him.

by all means, go ahead and find something i've said that mildly approximates your ignorance in this thread. you said anyone, save the ladies getting the shit kicked out of them, are losers for getting divorced just before presenting a host of qualifications. the difference between you and i has nothing to do with the fact we all pass judgement. it has to do with the fact i - and others - take into consideration the circumstances people deal before passing that judgement, while all you're willing to do is project your personal experiences into the lives of others.

so ja, i've called your bluff even though i assume you have something in the chamber, non?

poptart wrote:viewtopic.php?f=35&t=33469

interesting. 'bode, indy. full-on judgmental breakdown this side.

M Club wrote:so ja, i've called your bluff even though i assume you have something in the chamber, non?

Well, before I tip my hand, the fact you replied in this manner would make one think that yeah, you have judged at some point. As I said, we all do. Just because the manner in which I judge offends some past history for you I could care less.

IndyFrisco wrote:Well, before I tip my hand, the fact you replied in this manner would make one think that yeah, you have judged at some point. As I said, we all do. Just because the manner in which I judge offends some past history for you I could care less.

Are you being willfully obtuse here? Please point me in the direction to where I said I've never passed judgment. That C- you got in psychology isn't helping you much here, either. "The fact you said this means this." Brilliant analysis.

Here's what I said:

you're in no position to judge, yet you do. fine, i suppose, but pretty flimsy criteria you're using there.

The non-sequitur you responded with:

We all judge. Don't act like you don't. If you'd like, I can easily go through your post history and find many examples of judging. Do you get this uppity everytime someone has an opinion that differs from yours?

Curious. Where's the part where I said I don't pass judgment? I just said you're an intolerant fuck in this regard. Pretty interesting that you'd inquire about how often I get so uppity when you're the one who says ignorant shit like "anyone who gets a divorce is a loser, full stop." Of course, that was before you began hedging with things like "they 'lost,'" whatever that meant.

Anyhow, sometimes a point isn't made/taken right away, so I clarified:

the difference between you and i has nothing to do with the fact we all pass judgement. it has to do with the fact i - and others - take into consideration the circumstances people deal before passing that judgement, while all you're willing to do is project your personal experiences into the lives of others.

Uh, that's pretty straight forward, yet you still persist with your retarded insistence about the fact everyone judges. I know you hate people and their high horses, so you probably want to come down from yours. People live real lives. I'm legitimately glad yours involves a happy marriage and great kids, but apparently that's not the case for about half the people who get married. Some treat the institution rather nonchalantly, yes, but for others it just don't work out for very legitimate reasons you couldn't possibly understand because your head is in the clouds, your perch so high.

As for that silly bit where you tried reading into my motives, no. I'm less concerned about some ohh, burn you have at the ready than I can't wait to see what gem you unearth to make...your point?

And your weak foray into psychology: hardly. The manner in which you judge doesn't remotely touch anything in my past, probably because the manner in which you judge presupposes your circumstances are those of others.

Don't you think you're being a wee bit judgemental M Club ?

About the C-? Sure. Was probably a D+.

I think when we speak of "judgement" we neglect the notion of "discernment". Poptart can speak more eloquently about this than I can and back it up with scripture. The gist of what I've gotten though is that nothing indicates there is wisdom in riding a top a high horse. Sometimes folks, like Saul for instance, must be knocked off their high horse in order to see the truth.

That being said, is it not true friends; those that truly LOVE a brother or sister, who provide information necessary to HELP ?
I always say, your real friends let you know when you have a booger on your tie. They do so with proper discretion, compassion, and a SPIRIT of helpfulness. Not one of condemnation.

Tom In VA wrote: I think when we speak of "judgement" we neglect the notion of "discernment".

True, 'judgement' is used rather loosely most of the time. People generally don't ridicule an arbitrator of any sort for making judgments. I think 'judgmental' becomes an issue when the basis of those judgments is little more than that's not how I do it.

mvscal wrote:

Go Coogs' wrote:The only way I'd leave Mrs. Rumps is if she cheated on me. <----- Go ahead and have some fun with that if you must.

Don't get too complacent. The next time I get within 100 miles of Houston I'm going to fuck your wife's fat titays no questions asked.

Fair warning.

Might be cause for concern, Rumps. Your wife lives in Texas. She is, to put it charitably, big-boned. Could be that she has a thing for Mexicans.

Congratulations to War Wagon for his anniversary and for his many years of marriage. And the same to the others who have indicated that they've been married for many years. That's what taking a vow of marriage is all about and you are an example to others.

Not to be critical of you IndyFrisco but I think you might get off your high horse. If you are enjoying marriage and don't intend to ever break from your spouse then just let others view your example. No need to mock those who have suffered through painful breaks. Nobody wants to end a marriage. But sometimes bad things happen in life. I'm sure we could examine your life and find places where you have had your own failings. I'm not in favore of tossing stones.

Dan Vogel wrote:Congratulations to War Wagon for his anniversary and for his many years of marriage. And the same to the others who have indicated that they've been married for many years. That's what taking a vow of marriage is all about and you are an example to others.

Not to be critical of you IndyFrisco but I think you might get off your high horse. If you are enjoying marriage and don't intend to ever break from your spouse then just let others view your example. No need to mock those who have suffered through painful breaks. Nobody wants to end a marriage. But sometimes bad things happen in life. I'm sure we could examine your life and find places where you have had your own failings. I'm not in favore of tossing stones.

stick to tossing salads, dan.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Go Coogs' wrote:The only way I'd leave Mrs. Rumps is if she cheated on me. <----- Go ahead and have some fun with that if you must.

Don't get too complacent. The next time I get within 100 miles of Houston I'm going to fuck your wife's fat titays no questions asked.

Fair warning.

Might be cause for concern, Rumps. Your wife lives in Texas. She is, to put it charitably, big-boned. Could be that she has a thing for Mexicans.

Actually, being a tuby white girl, she probably got a thing for blacksnake. she's kind of a reverse terry.

IndyFrisco wrote: so what kind of "loser" are you according to me? the one who left? the one who was left? or the kid whose parents split? If you're the kid, I don't think you're the loser. Just your parents.

Dude, not only is that the worst marriage take I've heard in ages, but is yet another in a series of naïve, idealistic opinions you've posted in this thread.

My parents had your view and stuck it out, while making themselves and their kids horribly miserable for almost fifteen years.

Ironically I'm the one who turned out the most normal. My younger sister kills an entire bottle of Maker's Mark several times a weekend my older sister didn't have a relationship until age 35 because she was so fucked up.

But hey, it's all good because my parents kept their sacred vows, right?